Hare  Krsna

Pranams

Glories to Srila  Prabhupada

This email is a  followup to yesterdays-where I showed pictures of the Make Vrndavana Book set (approx 1,500 pages) , and  which gave, at the end of  that email, Srila Prabhupadas final instructions to his disciples  and followers.

What follows is a  short list of quotes from the conversations books related to becomming self  independent, and start doing this by growing ones own food. Also mentioned is  Prabhupada stressing adopting the principle of simple living and high  thinking along that way.

Hari  bol

Damaghosa  das

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►740524r2.rom                Conversations …  Yes, naturally. If this man is fed up with  this industry, he can go back to village and  produce his own food. But he is attached to this industrial  activity because he is thinking that “We are getting more money for wine and  woman and meat. Let me enjoy.” That is the perfect, imp…  But  if he chants Hare Krsna maha-mantra, his consciousness  will be purified and he will be made not interested this kind of work. He will go back to village  and produce food.

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►740525mw.rom                Conversations …  That is yajna. So in the Kali-yuga the yajna is made  very easy. Chant Hare Krsna. So anywhere you go, chant Hare Krsna, and see  that there will be clouds, there will be rainfall, and just work  little, you get your foodgrains, and chant Hare  Krsna.

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740524r2.rom                 Conversations                           1/1 eatables to the animals and to the men, then everything is  prosperous. So where is that arrangement? There is enough land,  enough possibility, enough water. Now utilize them and produce food  grain, eat nicely and live peacefully and chant Hare  Krsna and go back to home, back to Godhead. This is our  philosophy. Why there should be industry? You want to eat after  all. Instead of eating this flesh, killing poor animals, why don’t you  produce food grains, fruits, flowers, food grain, and take milk from the  animals and produce milk products, all nutritious food, all nice food, and be  happy and remember God for His kindness. This is  civilization. What is this nonsense civilization? Now there is  petrol problem. I see so many buses, and not a single man, one or two men.  And for two men a big huge bus is being run, and so much petrol is consumed  unnecessarily. I have seen. I went from Nairobi to London in a  plane–only five passengers. Out of that, four passengers we were. Why?  Why this nonsense? And there is petrol problem now. They are creating  simply, the so-called advancement of civilization, creating problems,  that’s all. And that is due to these rascal leaders. Andha  yathandhair upaniyamanas te ‘pisa-tantryam uru-damni baddhah. They do not  know what is the ideal of life, what is the aim of life. They are  creating

hodge-podge  civilization and putting the mass of people in chaotic condition.  This is the sum and substance. I do not know whether  you’ll agreed with me, but this is my study of the whole  situation.

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►740525mw.rom                Conversations Prabhupada: Yes.  (break) …encouraging in our society to take to agriculture to  support this center. I am purchasing land in Vrndavana and Mayapura to  become self-sufficient. Whatever production you make, you  be satisfied. Little vegetable, little grain and little milk. That is  sufficient.

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►740525mw.rom                Conversations Prabhupada: Yes, that was Gandhi’s philosophy, village  organization. These people, they are attracting villagers to work in the  factory, and they are exploiting them…. our philosophy. Make your  life successful. By becoming Krsna conscious, you become free from  all these troubles of material  condition. This is our education. Don’t be after these  motorcars, television, and all nonsense things, sporting, wine, women. Don’t  be after these. Simply eat sufficiently, keep  your health nicely, chant Hare Krsna, realize Krsna, and  go back  to home This is our  philosophy…

———————— ►740525mw.rom                Conversations Prabhupada:  Stick to your own place and grow your food. There is  no question of transport. Little transport is required, that bullock cart.  Krsna was being carried on bullock cart. There is no use of petrol. Use  simply the bull. They are already there. Utilize them.

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740527mw.rom                 Conversations                 363471/53050 Dhananjaya: So in fact, Srila Prabhupada, we should start  using bullock carts. Prabhupada: Yes. No, first of all you  start the community project, as we have already started  in New Vrindaban. Make this  perfect. ——————————

740527mw.rom                 Conversations                           1/2 newspaper, nonsense  newspaper, huge, huge quantity? So everything will be nice provided you  become ideal. Live in community. Produce your  own food. Even you can produce your own  paper. You don’t require printing of so many books. If there is one book,  others can …

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►740527mw.rom                Conversations … Keep amongst yourself and produce. Produce  food grain, produce cotton, mustard seed.  Self dependent, no use… And we don’t require motorcar. Bullock cart is  sufficient. There is no need of going  anywhere…

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►740527mw.rom                Conversations Prabhupada: No, no. These varieties… Suppose you grow half a  dozen different types of vegetables. So from this half a dozen you  can make three dozen varieties. If you are a good  cooker. So the varieties  of enjoyment will be fulfilled. We have got some  desire of different quality of varieties. That you can make.  From milk, vegetable, grains, the three things,  you can make three hundred  varieties.

 

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►740527mw.rom                Conversations Prabhupada: Yes, it will go on, but when they will see that  your ideal community is better than city life, people will take to it.  Param drstva nivartate. When one gets a better standard of life,  naturally he will give up the lower standard of  life.

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►740528mw.rom                Conversations  So you have to set up real human society in a  small scale so people will see, “Yes.” Because man has got  intelligence. Just like, although I am … my preaching. So why you are  coming? So if you stick to your position, real  human civilization, people will come, gradually. Because they  have got the sense….

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►740528mw.rom                Conversations Prabhupada: No, there is no question of extended. You keep  yourself in a limited solution. And then, when it is appreciated it will  be automatically extended. You don’t touch the extended. You become  ideal civilized man. Others will  follow.

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740602mw.gen                 Conversations                 364211/530501 Prabhupada: Wasteful, yes. Therefore I say they have no brain.  All, they are rascals. Rascal leaders. A little labor in  agriculture will be  sufficient to produce the family’s food stock for the whole  year. You can stock.  You work only three months, and you get sufficient  food for your whole family. And  less nine months, you chant Hare Krsna. But these  rascals will not do that. They will work hard like ass  simply for eating. Nunam pramattah kurute  vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti. They will not accept easy  life.

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740605r2.gen                Conversations Prabhupada: Sacrifice means to satisfy God. So you  satisfy God. By God’s mercy there will be sufficient rain. And  when there is sufficient rain you produce sufficient food, food grains, and  both th animals and men eat and live in God  consciousness.

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►740611r2.par                Conversations Prabhupada: No, we have to make this propaganda because we are  servant of Krsna. And Krsna orders, krsi-go-raksya-vanijyam. So we  must take to agricultural work to produce food and give  protection to the cows. And if there is excess product, we trade. This simple  thing we must do. Therefore I’m anxious to take outside Paris this  center. Our people should live there peacefully, produce  food grains, give protection to the cows, and work  hard. And if there is excess product, you can make money also.

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►740611r2.par                Conversations Therefore I’m anxious to take outside Paris this  center. Our people should live there peacefully, produce  food grains, give protection to the cows, and work  hard. And if … this point. We can make good money. We’ll not  be loser. Krsna conscious men, they’ll be never loser by following the  instruction of Krsna. They’ll live comfortably without any material want,  and tyaktva deham punar janma naiti, and after leaving this body, go to,  directly back to home…

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►740619rc.ger                Conversations Prabhupada: My idea is that all our centers should be  self-supported. We do not like that idea that for your support you  have to go 100 miles to get your bread.  That is a very dangerous drawback. You produce your food  locally and then support yourself. The main problem is what to eat, where to  sleep. So we get some place and support ourself by producing our own  food. We  have already begun in New Vrindaban, New…, West Virginia, Virginia, and  similarly in other centers, we are producing our food, grains, vegetables,  fruits and milk. That is sufficient.

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►740621mw.ger                Conversations Prabhupada: Most unnatural life. City life, most  unnatural.

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►740709mw.la                 Conversations Prabhupada: (laughs) Yes. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopaya na  santaye. If you advise rascals, they’ll be angry. No good result.  Murkhayopadeso hi prakopaya na santaye, payah-panam bhujanganam kevalam  visa-vardhanam. So we have to become very strong  preacher. Then this movement will stay. If you simply  take the temple worship, it will not stay  very long. Just like…

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►750401mw.may                Conversations … don’t distribute. You live only, till the ground  and take your food. Where is the question of  distribution? Whatever you can till, you take so much land. God has enough  land. Why do you possess more? One acre of land is  sufficient for producing your food. Why do you  take more?

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►750403mw.may                Conversations There are so many land. Come here and grow food. Grow fruit.  That is… That is the desire of  Krsna. Annad bhavanti  bhutani. Produce food and eat in sufficiently, be strong, and chant  Hare Krsna. That is our philosophy. Why you  are producing bolts and nuts, tire and tubes? Eat. Rascal. They do not know  that first of all you must eat. No, everyone is engaged in industry.  Why? Krsna does not say that “Take to  industry.” Krsna says, “Produce foodstuff.” Annad  bhavanti bhutani. If you produce foodstuff, then both your  animals, yourself, will be happy, becoming  strong. Why do they manufacture other  things?

 

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►750403mw.may                Conversations Prabhupada: Therefore we are offering this place. Come here.  Why do you not come here and live with us? Then this is… The  Krsna consciousness movement is… This is the movement, that you  come here, live with us, and produce your food,  produce your milk, be happy, healthy, and chant Hare Krsna.  This is our movement. Therefore we are creating New  Vrindaban and farm, and we are trying to purchase… This is our movement,  that we give you sufficient food, shelter, health, philosophy, religion,  character, everything, purity. Come here. Why don’t you come? They come here  on the weekdays, and then fly away, go away. You see? We are giving such nice  room, but they will not live here. They will go to the hubble-bubble of the  city. They like to come here. Therefore they spend so much money for gas and  … here. They will go to the hubble-bubble of the city. They like to  come here. Therefore they spend so much money for gas and come here.  But because they are not accustomed, they go back again. Return  ticket. From hell to heaven, and again hell (laughter)  Return ticket–coming back to hell again, not going back to  God.

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►760912rc.vrn                Conversations Prabhupada: No, they’re thinking that so many people are coming  to the cities, how we shall provide them? That’s a problem. After  all government has to supply them rations. Where is so much foodstuff?  And if they are not supplied, then there will be resentment. That’s  a fact. What they are doing in the city, so many scooter (makes  motor sound), going here and there. Actually no engagement. The girls  are loitering in the street by dressing. It will become more and  more problems, city life. So this is the solution, that they must go  back to the village. But they are trained up  to enjoy the facilities, so-called facilities, of the city. They are not  going to village. But if we can introduce this hari-sankirtana, and if they  have little taste, that is success. It’s a great program. And that taste  will come–ceto-darpana-marjanam. If he simply becomes little  sober that “I want to eat, I have to sleep, I want  some sense enjoyment and defense. So if I can get easily in  the village, why shall I go three hundred miles  away? Just keep in mind the psychology. So that simple  life will be possible if one is bhakta. Bhaktih  paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat. Only by devotion. Not  by otherwise. Not by artificial means, by manufacturing toilet.  Only bhakti. If they get little attachment for

Krsna the questions  will be solved automatically. And they will be happy. Undoubtedly. That is  the Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s first instruction. Ceto-darpana.

 

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760916rc.vrn                 Conversations                 452281/530501 Prabhupada: Yes, also. Otherwise, we have seen in our  childhood how happy people were. They were. Simple. If one has  five rupees income per month he’s happy. I’ve seen  it. Husband, wife, a small family. If he has got five rupees  income, they can maintain very nicely, happily. Why not? Suppose he has got  five rupees income. The rice was selling at four rupees. So two person, say  one-fourth kg., one-fourth share each. A gentleman cannot eat more than that.  So means half a share. And the whole month, fifteen share. It is about one  rupee eight annas. And further, one rupees eight annas add for vegetables and  other things. With three rupees they can maintain, the husband and wife.  And two rupees still there. He can spend for other purposes. I have  seen it. Fresh vegetables, rice, this and… Just like with banana  leaf. The pots were of earthen, the wife is cooking and she’s utilizing  dry foliage as fuel, a little temperature, everything is cooked.  The husband takes one banana leaf and spreads, and the wife  gives sufficient rice, vegetables. And things were so cheap. I have seen  it. And fresh.

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►760916rc.vrn                Conversations Prabhupada: Otherwise, within the village you can get  everything. Village economy. Everything very cheap. And as soon as  they got these transport facilities, the local men, they could not  eat, and these lazy rascals, they are getting everything. Big, big cities  like Calcutta, Bombay, they (have) millions of population. They are  not producing anything. The producer is different man. They are  simply artificially cheating them by paper money and they  …

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►760926rc.vrn                Conversations … other important members said, “Why Abhaya Babu is  living separately? He should be the president of the Bombay.” I never  said, but they said. I was living separately. Then Prabhupada … ll  do himself everything. You haven’t got to recommend him.” These  very words. (break) …Krsna require any president or any GBC. He’s  giving chance to everyone, that’s all. Otherwise  thousands of presidents and thousands of GBC may come and  go, His work will go on. Krsna is complete Himself. He doesn’t  require anyone’s help. That is Krsna. (break) …sei hetu pracara. One who  has got life, he can preach.

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►761016iv.cha                Conversations … Bhagavad-gita, krsi-go-raksya vanijyam vaisya-karma  svabhava-jam. That you must produce enough food grains by agriculture and  give protection to the cows. That means if you have got enough food  grains to eat and if you have got enough milk to get fatty substance,  then your whole economic question is solved.  Annad bhavanti bhutani. If you get sufficient food there is no  question of agitation. Everyone is satisfied. Animal and man. So you  must produce. That is recommendation in the Bhagavad  gita.

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►761102rc.vrn                Conversations Prabhupada: How they can defeat us? We have got so solid  ground. How they can defeat, these rascals? We consider them simply rascals  and fools. And we call them rascals and fools. What do they know  of religion? What do they know of God? They know slaughterhouse  and killing and illicit sex, and killing the fetus. That’s all. What  do they know? They are not even civilized. We have come to make  them civilized. They should understand. They are not civilized. They do  not (know) how to eat even. The first principle of life is eating. They  do not know how to eat. We are teaching them how to eat. They  simply challenge, that’s… When men are uncivilized, they do not how  to grow food, they kill animals in the  jungle and eat. When they  are civilized, they know how to grow food now and  the nice food grains, fruit, flowers, now  why should say, “You eat the meat.” The meat-eating is meant for the most  uncivilized persons. That means they do not know even how to eat. They do not  know how to eat. How to eat, how to sleep, how to have sex. Nothing. They’re  having sex like cats and dogs.

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►761102rc.vrn                Conversations Prabhupada: No, we don’t care for Indians and Europeans. We  care for Krsna, that’s all. I didn’t care for anyone. I simply care …  s protection, that’s all. That is wanted. Guru-krsna-krpaya  paya bhakti-lata-bija. We want two favours. One from guru, one  from Krsna. That’s all. We don’t want anyone’s  favour.

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760814rc.bom                 Conversations                 446983/530501 Prabhupada: :So people are being trained up to become  mad, pramattah. And do anything, bring money. This is the modern civilization. Nunam pramattah kurute  vikarma. Things which are forbidden, they are doing that. Why?  Indriya-pritaya aprnoti, only for sense gratification. They have no other  ambition. Bring money and gratify senses. This is modern civilization. This  is the exact explanation–nunam pramattah kurute vikarma. Black money, white  money, this money, that…, never mind, bring money. Indian Doctor:  (laughter) By any way. Prabhupada: Yes, this is modern civilization. Big man,  big rich man means bring money some way or other. This is big man. This  is Kali-yuga. Because if you have got money, you have got respect,  you have got honor, you are recognized. So therefore they are after  money. Bring money, that’s all right. When I shall get  money, I may have done black money, force money, this money,  nobody will remember it. Bas. This is modern  civilization. Bring money and enjoy sense. Nunam pramattah  kurute vikarma. What for it is, struggle so much  working

hard? Yad indriya-pritaya.  Only for the satisfaction of the senses. They have no other ambition. Because  most of them, they do not believe there is next life. Most of them, 99.9  percent, they do not believe. Big, big professor, I have talked with so many  big, big men in  Europe. ————————————–

760817iv.hyd                 Conversations                 447289/530501 Interviewer (5): You have some project here. Can you kindly  explain what is that? Prabhupada: Our project is Bhagavad-gita,  learn Bhagavad-gita and apply it practically in your  life.

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►760817iv.hyd                Conversations Prabhupada: Our project is Krsna consciousness. Come here,  live peacefully, keep your body fit, and work for yourself, you  produce your own food, you produce your own cloth,  don’t be very much anxious for  artificial necessities, and save time, and be advanced in  spiritual life.

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►760731r2.par                Conversations … little cottages, grow little vegetable, little barley or  wheat and milk. That is sufficient. We don’t require much. We don’t want  luxury. We want just to subsist. Yavad artha prayojana. We hate the idea  of luxury, unnecessary.

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►760802rc.par                Conversations … of how to utilize the whole land. The situation is very  good, good prospect. I want that self-independent here, as  far as possible. But you have got enough materials. With woods you can make  cottages. Then land becomes clear, then utilize it.

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►760802rc.par                Conversations Prabhupada: Plan is that we have got woods. Cut the woods, make  small cottages, and engage them for growing fruits, flowers, grains,  and make the complete arrengement nicely…

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►760802r3.par                Conversations  And if there are several brahmanas, so each one of them  will cook his own food. In Calcutta, mostly the rich men they used to keep  the collector’s darwans, they …  family, they used to take, accept the  job. But each of them, even in police, I have seen, they are cooking  separately. They take bath thrice, cook their own food, very strictly.  The government had to give them a big hall for cooking. So, it will  not take much space, say, little space. One small oven and  demarcated: “This, you see, is mine, and then I, you get, this is yours, this  is yours.” So within that space they’ll sit down and cook dal,  capatis, rice, one vegetable, and cook, and immediately all the utensils  will be cleansed and washed, and the space washed and kept. You’d like  to eat, they cook so nicely, although simple. And I have got  practical experience, if you cook your own food,  whatever it may be, it is  healthy. ——————–

►760802r3.par                Conversations .And they can make hundreds of devotees. In this way we can  expand. Are you realizing that there is no civilization? Actually  civilization we are introducing. Except Aryan civilization, Vedic  civilization, there is no civilization–animal society. What  do you think? Are you convinced about it?

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►760803r2.par                Conversations … peas, grow fresh. Eat very nicely, keep strong,  drink milk, chant Hare Krsna.  Bas. Don’t depend on this outside work and then  gradually become debauch, thief, rogues,  prostitutes. Is that civilization? They cannot imagine that … go without  all these things. Do they not? Slaughterhouse, brothel, cheating, diplomacy,  roguery, drinking–without this, no civilization. We are quite opposed. We  want to show it is possible, yes. You can stop all this nonsense and  still you go on as a perfect civilized man. With character,  knowledge, satisfaction, everything……

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►760803r3.par                Conversations Prabhupada: So show the simple example that  how by simple living and thinking of Krsna, one can become perfect  and happy. ————————-

►760812mw.teh                Conversations Prabhupada: No, that work is recommended. Your question is  how Krsna is giving you instruction. Just like food, Krsna says annad  bhavanti bhutani. You produce anna. Krsna never said that you produce tire  tubes. Never says.

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.►760714iv.ny                 Conversations … So we get enough milk, enough food grains,  enough fruits. So there is no economic problem. Our purpose is to save  time from  unnecessary necessities of life, from unnecessary  necessities of life, to save time and utilize the time for developing  Krsna consciousness. And so far the body is concerned, as much as it  … is required take and maintain the body. That’s all.

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690511rc.col                 Conversations                 321594/53 Prabhupada: Yes. Farming, agriculture, that is nice. There is  a proverb: agriculture is the noblest profession. Is it not  said? Agriculture is noblest, and Krsna was farmer, His  father.

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►770527rc.vrn                                             Conversations …  There will be more water for gardening, and it will  be moist, and then produce fodder for the animals and food for you. And  animal gives you milk. That is … .. Don’t bother about big, big  buildings. It is not required. Useless waste of time. Produce. Make the  whole field green. See that. Then whole economic question solved. Then you  eat … is beneficial. Even the stool is beneficial. Therefore I am asking  so much here and…, “Farm, farm, farm, farm…” That is not  my program–Krsna’s  program. Annad bhavanti  bhutani. Produce greenness everywhere,  everywhere. Vrndavana. It is not this  motorcar civilization.

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►760610r3.la                 Conversations Prabhupada: All fresh vegetable, fresh milk, this is  celestial. Who has got the opportunity in the city? Automatically.

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►760423rc.mel                Conversations Prabhupada: Production…. You take the total land as God’s  property, and all the population, they are sons of God. Then whole  problem solved. Everything solved. If economic problem is solved,  then social, political, religious, philosophical,  everything is solved.

 

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760427rc.auc                 Conversations                 419704/530501 Prabhupada: Not only one, you hundreds of temples construct.  Village to village, town to…. At the same time, man. And it  will revolutionize the whole rascal situation. At the present moment, it  is rascal situation. They’re simply satisfied by driving the  motor…. putputputputputputputputput! (Prabhupada makes the sound of a roaring motor). They are thinking, “Oh,  how highly I am situated.” All crazy. But this has been taught to them  that “This is civilization. If you have got a motorcycle and you can come  like the wild cat, (all laugh) then you are civilized.” They are thinking  how great civilized they are; we are thinking how wild cat he is. And  what is the difference between wild cat and running dog and this motorcycle?  Put-put? What is the difference?

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►760120mw.may                Conversations Prabhupada: A devotee will never accept materialism, even if he  dies of starvation. You’ll see so many still. They are sticking …  that. They don’t care for any bodily care. “Some food comes; I shall  eat. Never mind.” Still you’ll find. They are sitting in their place  and chanting or meditating …

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►751103mw.bom                Conversations Prabhupada: No, no, no. That is not the fact. If you are  actually spiritually advanced, you don’t care for it. Deha smrti nahi  yar samsara bandhana kahan tanra. It is just like Raghunatha dasa  Gosvami. He had no spiritual… er, material con… He was eating …  quantity of butter. That’s all. How he was living in Vrndavana? So when  one is perfectly on the spiritual platform, there is no bodily  necessities. That is the sign.[not to be imitated,  however] Therefore our civilization is to decrease the  bodily necessities, not to  increase. Control. Control, from the brahmacari, control,  control, control. Ultimately completely control. That is perfectional stage.  Tyagena.(renunciation)

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►760731rc.par                Conversations Prabhupada: Vasan danto guror hitam. The beginning of life is  how to become cent  percent obedient to guru. That is Gurukula.  That training should be given. The whole process is that our life will be  successful when we strictly follow guru and Krsna. Guru means Krsna;  Krsna means guru. Not Mayavada, but guru means one who follows Krsna, he is  guru. ————————–

 

►761102rc.vrn                Conversations Prabhupada: No, we don’t care for Indians and Europeans. We  care for Krsna, that’s all. I didn’t care for anyone. I simply care …  s protection, that’s all. That is wanted. Guru-krsna-krpaya  paya bhakti-lata-bija. We want two favours. One from guru, one  from Krsna. That’s all. We don’t want anyone’s  favour.

 

 

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Conclusion: The above  quotes were selected from the Make Vrndavana Book Set which came  entirely from Srila Prabhupadas conversations. Over and over Srila Prabhupada  stresses the great importance of making ones own personal lifestyle as simple as  possible, and of becomming  economically independent from the system called  “the rat race”- by its own occupants. And also of the benefits that this  lifestyle provides to oneself–the most important of which is —more TIME  for spiritual life.

Since real life is  spiritual life, the best way towards that goal is to minimize ones daily wants  and needs, and a very important step of that is done by growing one’s own  food. Our philosophy is summed up thusly—

SIMPLE LIVING AND HIGH  THINKING.

Either is hard to  obtain without the other.

 

We would also like to  invite all interested devotees, not presently doing most or any of the  above, to move here to the very fertile Skagit Valley County in  Washington state and take up this transcendental lifestyle alongside us here. We  will  all be happy.

 

Hare  Krsna

your humble  servant

Damaghosa  das