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Dual systems of initiation in iskcon? Where does Srila Prabhupada authorize this?

Hare Krsna-

There have been some writings circulating recently by devotees within and outside iskcon about how iskcon should adopt a dual guru system, namely new people should be allowed to accept Srila Prabhupada as their initiating guru or they can accept some gbc certified (accept at your own risk) spiritual master. This idea is not very intelligent and one who reads further  and hears the advice given by Bhaktivinode Thakur will see why.

Hare Krsna

damaghosa das

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Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur--starting on pg 110 Sarvabhavana das translation

Note I have from the book, directly typed this text below, so please forgive any typos)

SB 11.2.46-Madhyamas—“isvare tad-adhinesu, balisesu  dvbisatsu ca, prema maître krpopeksa, yah karoti sa  madhyamah”

An intermediate or second class devotee called a madhyama  offers his love to the Lord, is a sincere friend to all the devotees  of the Lord, shows mercy to the ignorant people who are innocent, and disregards those who are envious of the Lord and His devotees.

(I have skipped the first three items because they do not apply to this article at present)

…Now we come to the fourth quality, upeksa,  indifference neglect and avoidance of those who are envious.Firstly an envious  person has to be defined and the different types of envious persons have to be  delineated. Dvesa, enmity is an unfortunate human trait also know as matsarata,  envy and hate. This heinous propensity is the exact opposite of  prema(love for Krsna).

Antipathy against the Lord  is known as dvesa of which there are 5  kinds. 1.skepticism, not having faith in God. 2. the belief that the Lord is  nothing more than a natural potency of the creation which automatically brings  about results of ones karma. 3. Not believing in the transcendental form of the  Lord.  4. not accepting the position  of the jiva as eternal servant of the Lord and 5. absence of mercy.

How should devotees deals with such persons? It is  recommended one should avoid their company. Upeksa means neither that one should  put a stop to all the usual human exchanges nor that one should refuse help to  such bewildered persons. On the contrary if an envious person is in danger or in  distress, everything should be done to ameliorate his agony.

How then is it possible for a grhastha vaisnava with one  final stroke to curtail all simple day to day interactions with this envious  lot? This is not the meaning of upeksa. Upeksa is to terminate all spiritual  exchanges with them, not social exchanges.

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Srila Sac-Cid=Ananda Bhaktivinoda Thakur avirbhava tithi [appearance day] Monday, September 4, 2017 [Mayapura Time, West Bengal, Bharata Bhumi time]

Srila Sac-Cid-Ananda Bhaktivinoda Thakur avirbhava tithi [appearance day]
Monday, September4 , 2017 [Mayapura Time, West Bengal, Bharata Bhumi time]
Srila Prabhupafa glorifies Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura
compiled by Padmapani dasa
(The Prabhupada Connection)

THE PRABHUPADA CONNECTION
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Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura’s Appearance
 
His Divine Grace Śrīla Saccidānanda Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura
 
The pioneer of the program to benedict the entire world with Kṛṣṇa consciousness
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So today is very auspicious day, Ṭhākura Bhaktivinoda’s birthday. Here is the picture of Ṭhākura Saccidānanda Bhaktivinoda. He was one of the ācāryas of this disciplic succession from Kṛṣṇa. We have got a succession table from Kṛṣṇa, genealogical table. There are two kinds of genealogical tables: one by the semina—father, his son, his son, like that; that is material genealogical table—and there is one spiritual genealogical table, disciplic succession.
 
Just like Kṛṣṇa… Kṛṣṇa, the original father, Supreme Personality of Godhead, He spoke the Vedic knowledge to Brahmā, Lord Brahmā. He spoke to Nārada. Nārada spoke to Vyāsa. Vyāsa spoke to Madhvācārya. So, in this disciplic succession, Lord Caitanya, from Lord Caitanya, the six Gosvāmīs, and similarly, coming down, down, Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, then Gaurakiśora dāsa Bābājī Mahārāja, then my spiritual master, then we are, next generation, my disciples.

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Foundations of Knowledge: The Path of Reality

Foundations of Knowledge: The Path of Reality

By Narasimha das

Many dishonest atheists pose as scholars or even brahmins and Vaishnavas. Srila Prabhupada indicated that these kinds of hypocrites are even more dangerous than avowed atheists who simply do not believe in God or religion in any shape or form. Poser atheists sometimes challenge faithful devotees, saying, “What is the use your sentiment and mythologies? Can you predict an eclipse or create a space shuttle? Better you worship scientists, who can make our lives free and easy.”

One infamous atheist posing as a sadhu (Vivekananda) advised devout Hindus to uproot their sacred Tulasi plants and grown eggplants instead. He proposed that growing eggplants would be of more consequence that growing Tulasi. Similarly, other atheists advise, “Go to the forest and practice vanaprastha so you don’t disturb others with your fanatical religious ideas. Join an assembly of sages in the jungle– because a festival of sages in the jungle will be of no consequence and thus will not disturb our advanced scientific society.”

Srila Prabhupada has often countered the assertion that devotees are “idiots” or “blind” followers. “The way of devotional service in neither sentimental nor mundane. It is the path of reality by which the living entity can attain the transcendental happiness of being freed from the three kinds of material miseries… The argument that unless one has proper knowledge one cannot be freed from material miseries is undoubtedly true. But because the lotus feet of the Lord are full of transcendental knowledge, acceptance of His lotus feet completes that necessity… There is no want of knowledge in the devotional service of Vasudeva, the personality of Godhead. He, the Lord, personally takes charge of dissipating the darkness of ignorance from the heart of a devotee.  He confirms this in Bhagavad-gita (10.10)”: Continue reading →

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Srila Prabhupada on how to observe ekadasi – Saturday, September 2, 2017 Fasting for Vamana Dvadasi (Mayapura, West Bengal, Bharata bhumi time]

In the Brahma-vaivarta Purana it is said that one who observes fasting on Ekadashi day
is freed from all kinds of reactions to sinful activities and advances in pious life.
The basic principle is not just to fast, but to increase one’s faith and love for Govinda, or Krishna.
The real reason for observing fasting on Ekadashi is to minimize the demands of the body and
to engage our time in the service of the Lord by chanting or performing similar service.
The best thing to do on fasting days is to remember the pastimes of Govinda and to hear His holy name constantly.
– Nectar of Devotion, Chapter 7

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Sri Vamana Dvadasi and Srila Jiva Goswami avirbhava tithi [appearance day ]

Sri Vamana Dvadasi and Srila Jiva Goswami avirbhava tithi [appearance day ]-
Sunday, September 3, 2017 [Mayapura, West Benngal,, Bharata bhumi time]
Srila Prabhupada glorifies the transcendental appearance of Lord Vamana Deva and Jiva Goswami Prabhupada
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Regarding Goura Govinda and ALL other imitators

The tiny impostor glow-worm gorus cannot remain in the presence of the self-effulgent magnanimous acharya His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, whose transcendental empowered achievements and activities in the field of preaching Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s sankirtan movement in every town and village on the globe place him distinctly apart from the pseudo kali chela false preceptors of Krishna Consciousness. The intelligent people of this age, who are nevertheless dying in the desert of material sense enjoyment, are in dire want of a bona fide systematic solution to the problems of life. Srila Prabhupada’s books are the only such solution, and people will be able to see that. It is the prime duty of any genuine devotee of this age to assist Srila Prabhupada in the spreading of the Krishna Consciousness movement by presenting his books and teachings to the world for all others to take advantage of. In so doing, it is our implicit duty to clear away any obstacles that hamper the natural adherence of the people in general to Srila Prabhupada’s pure guidance. To achieve this we must simply present the real teachings of Srila Prabhupada against the false teachings, which always stand in stark contrast. This will lay the foundation for generations to come to accept and take shelter of the real teachings of Srila Prabhupada and thus actually make advancement in spiritual life.
Your servant,
Vidura Mahatma das

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Yaśomatīnandana: Sometimes they even say that “You have your guru and I have my guru. It’s all the same thing.”
Prabhupāda: Yes, and a thief has also a guru. Then that guru is also the same thing. (Hindi) Here guru means tasmād gurum prapadyeta jijñāsur śreya uttaman [SB 11.3.21]. (Hindi) Nāpnuvanti mahātmānam saṁsiddhiṁ paramaṁ gataḥ.
SP conv Nov 14, 1975
SP Letter to Rupanuga April 28 1974–
But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times a year.Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.
SP letter 9th November, 1975-“All my disciples should avoid all of my God brothers. They should not have any dealings with them nor even correspondence, nor should we give them any of my books, nor should we purchase any of their books, neither should you visit any of their temples. Please avoid them.”

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The real antisystem

The real antisystem, by Javier Figuerola or Haripada dasa
Everyone thinks that I am this body and that the goal of life is to satisfy my senses to the fullest, the real anti-system for this is that I am not the body but an eternal spiritual soul, and that the mission of human life is Know God or Krishna and go back to God.
No one believes in God, that is why it is said that the only God who does not have atheists is money, the real anti-system for this is to fulfill the vow of initiate and sing every day at least 27,648 Holy Names of God. This with practice takes an hour and a half to two.
Everybody has sex like dogs, pigs, camels and asses, the real anti-system for this is celibacy, the result of practicing celibacy is that one has a lot of body shine, health, a lot of memory and longevity.
To forget the suffering or to quench sorrows everyone drinks alcohol and drugs, and we are quite intoxicated by being in contact with matter, the real anti-system for this is to take only mineral water.
Everyone covets money and that’s why everyone practices gambling, the real anti-system for this is getting used to depend on God, after all everyone has what they deserve.
Almost everyone eats meat, fish and eggs, the real anti-system for this is to have a vegetarian diet, personally I have been using this diet since 1983 and I do not know what it is to be sick, and to spiritualize the food I offer it to God or Krishna in my temple.
After evacuating almost everyone cleans the anus with toilet paper, the real anti-system for this is to clean the anus with water, it is cleaner than the mouth, in India everyone does that.
On politics, I am fully convinced that the basis of material policy is that the members of our political party are our friends and members of the other political parties are our enemies, what is the cause of this philosophy? Ignorance and envy, how is it possible for citizens to derive some benefit from people full of ignorance and envy? If political leaders or state executives are only interested in themselves, they will never be able to look after the welfare of citizens. In Srimad Bhagavatam, 2, 3, 19 defines these politicians as donkeys, the atheistic and materialistic politician becomes entangled in many illusory occupations to elevate the position of others, as leader of political emancipation and economic development. There is nothing wrong with trying to achieve political emancipation or economic development, but one should not forget the true purpose of life, all those philanthropic activities must be coupled for return to God. It is also said in The Srimad Bhagavatam that one who is not a pure devotee of God can not have good qualities. Srila Prabhupada always said that those who fear these infernal politicians take refuge in the process of Krishna consciousness. Another point that we have to understand is that to know and love God the person must be pure and sinless, sinful people only understand that suffering is happiness.
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Sri Sri Nimai Nitai

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Moon Madness

Moon Madness

By Narasimha das

Recently I heard an odd accusation from a so-called senior devotee. He suggested that those who teach what Srila Prabhupada taught or repeat what he said about various controversial facts are trying to embarrass Srila Prabhupada because they hate Srila Prabhupada and His mission. This came up recently because some devotees in the Hare Krishna Society sent out excerpts from Bhagavatam regarding eclipses. They did this apparently in response to the recent eclipse-event mania, wherein hundreds of thousands of people drove hundreds of miles, both north and south, to bask in the darkness of a total solar eclipse.

Apparently this above-mentioned devotee is himself embarrassed by some of Srila Prabhupada’s statements and teachings, which he believes are obviously mistaken and should therefore be hidden, ignored, or totally forgotten. Those who aspire to create their own congregations worry that talk of certain subjects will scare away potential converts and thus impede their own sense gratification in the name of preaching. Continue reading →

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FINAL, REVISED EDITION NEW VIDEO ON SRILA PRABHUPADA’S POISONING

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