Hare Krishna Society

TRANSLATION

“If the mercy of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is not bestowed upon a person-regardless of how learned a scholar that person may be and regardless of his seeing or listening-he cannot accept Lord Caitanya as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

PURPORT

The same principles can be applied to demoniac persons, even though they be in the sampradāya of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Without receiving the Lord’s special power, one cannot preach His glories all over the world. Even though one may celebrate himself as a learned follower of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and even though one may attempt to preach the holy name of the Lord all over the world, if he is not favored by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu he will find fault with the pure devotee and will not be able to understand how a preacher is empowered by Lord Caitanya. One must be considered bereft of the mercy of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu when he criticizes the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement now spreading all over the world or finds fault with this movement or the leader of the movement. Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/11/103

Hare Krsna-

Below we have cuttings from two different lectures. The first one Srila Prabhupada explains how everybody here in this material world is a madman. And later on he also admits he himself was also trying to stay here, but Krsna crushed all his “plans” and removed all impediments due to his bhakti for Him.

damaghosa das

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CC Madhya 20.107 NY July 13 1976

So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to make the nitya–baddhas again nitya–siddha, to bring them. It is a difficult task. Just I was talking in the morning, it is very difficult task to… Just like a madman. A madman, to again bring him to the normal life is very difficult task. You have got in your country so many institutions. So the whole world, anyone who is in this material world, he’s a madman.

piśācī pāile yena mati–cchanna haya
māyā–grasta jīvera sei dāsa upaya (?)

When a man becomes ghostly haunted and he talks all nonsense… Similarly, anyone who is within this material world, they are all madmen. And Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means to cure them by this treatment. So if anyone accepts this treatment, then he can make progress very quickly. Just like any madman, if he is under proper treatment, there is hope of his being cured. But the modern education is that to keep him madman. That is the defect of modern civilization. Everyone is madman within this material world, and the modern education is to keep him madman. Therefore they cannot understand our philosophy. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness philosophy is very bona fide and most essential philosophy. Madman cannot understand, but that does not mean the process of treatment should be stopped. No. It must go on. It cannot be stopped.

…Here in this material world we are trying to become happy. Just like in your country is supposed to be most advanced in material civilization. They are trying to be happy. But we can see even in this New York City, nobody wants, still, twenty-four hours there is blazing fire: “gan-gan-gan-gan-gan-gan-gan-gan-gan.“ Stop this. Why there is blazing fire? Nobody wants it. But there must be, because you are in the material world. However big, big skyscraper building you may have, you have to suffer. But these dull brain cannot understand, because madmen.

So this dull brain has to be cured. All rascals, mūḍha. It is a fact. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ [Bg. 7.15]. Duṣkṛtina means simply unnecessary wasting time adjusting things materially. This is miscreants. They do not know that “For one type of advantage, I have to create hundred times disadvantage.” This is the fact. We are coming from New Vrindaban. They are living very comfortably in open space. There is no such disturbance, twenty-four hours, “dung-dung-dung-dung-kah-kah-kah-kah-kah.” No. (laughter) No disturbance. But you have created some advantages to live in the skyscraper building. There are so many disadvantages also. So therefore sometimes the Indians are accused that “Believe in destiny.” But that is actual fact. You cannot improve a single inch than you are destined. That is not possible. That is not possible. If you want to increase your so-called happiness, then you simply waste your time. That is Prahlāda Mahārāja’s instruction. Na tat prayāsaṁ kartavyam. “I am not in a good position economically. Let me try to improve it.” That you cannot. Otherwise in New York City, so opulent, so materially advanced, why we see so many men in the Central Park lying on the bench? Why? They do not belong to the poor nation or poor city. Still, because he’s destined, he must lie down there. Maybe he is rich man’s son or born in rich nation, but because he’s destined to suffer, he must lie down there. Because he’s destined to suffer, he must become a hippie.

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Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures : Canto 1: Lectures : SB 1.8: Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.37 — Los Angeles, April 29, 1973 : 730429SB.LA :

Kṛṣṇa is living everywhere—that is, that is the vision of the higher devotees. Actually He’s living, but still, because we are in thelower condition, we should know that here is Kṛṣṇa in the temple. Kṛṣṇa is everywhere, but for us, because we have no such vision to see Kṛṣṇa anywhere and everywhere, therefore we should come here in the temple and see Kṛṣṇa, “Here is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa has kindly appeared here in a manner in which I can see Him. That is Kṛṣṇa’s mercy.” That is temple. We cannot see… Kṛṣṇa has completely spiritual body, but we have no eyes to see what is that spiritual body. Sac-cid-ānanda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1]. We are accustomed to see this material, jaḍa, gross things. We can see stone, we can see metal, we can see wood. We can see all these material elements. But Kṛṣṇa is everything. Therefore to be visible to our imperfect eyes, Kṛṣṇa has appeared in the stone form, but Kṛṣṇa is not stone. It is not that we are worshiping stone; we are worshiping Kṛṣṇa. But because we cannot see except stone, therefore Kṛṣṇa has kindly appeared in the form carved from the stone. This is the conclusion.

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By Narasimha das

The following narrative is an example of how logic can be used to preach Krishna consciousness. Logic is accepted as evidence in the process of sankhya–yoga, which is a spiritual science originally taught by Lord Kapila Deva and Sri Matsya Avatar.

Recently I met a man who challenged me, saying, “I read on the internet that there are now 32 concocted variations of the Hare Krishna movement. This makes me think that it’s just another crazy cult. Before, I had some interest in the Krishna movement, but now I don’t trust it.”

I told this man that the internet is full of gossip and misinformation and he could better judge the authenticity of the movement by reading Srila Prabhupada’s original books.

He then mentioned he had also read on the internet that the books had been changed.

I told him the originals versions were still available if he was serious to learn the truth about the process and mission of Krishna consciousness.

He wasn’t convinced. “How could something genuine and potent create such a plethora of bogus cults?” he asked.

“First of all,” I explained, “you may consider that just because there are several unauthorized versions of the Hare Krishna mission, this doesn’t mean they are all bogus. It may be that most are bogus but not all. To understand which ones are genuine, you need the good fortune to get the association of sincere practitioners. To understand who is genuine you need to study Srila Prabhupada’s many books.”

This man was still suspicious. He said, “Life is too busy and short for such lengthy research. I just wanted a simple formula and mantra to go with.”

“Well,” I said, “the Hare Krishna Mantra is the simple mantra you need. But for the quickest results you need to chant it according the simple formula Srila Prabhupada and Lord Chaitanya instructed.”

“Otherwise… what?” he challenged. “It’s not authorized? It’s useless?”

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Hare Krsna to All

Pranams

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

After reading this during morning prasadam I just HAD to share it with others. The scene in the book Jaiva Dharma, by Bhaktivinode Thakur, is set up by the Thakur as a question- answer session between two great souls. Here it is…

Vrjanatha- What is the final destination of those who worship

Sri Gauranga?

Raghunatha- Sri Krsna and Sri Gauranga are non different in terms of tattva. They are the same Absolute Truth and both are the fountainheads of madhura rasa, nectarean, honey like mellows. However there are two ways in which madhura rasa manifest. madhura, transcendental conjugal sweetness and audarya, transcendental magnanimity. When madhurya is pre eminent, Sri Krsna is manifest and when audarya is prominent, Sri Gauranga is manifest. In the original Vrndavana, Goloka there are two symmetrical halves-Krsna pitha the abode of Sri Krsna and Audarya pitha the abode of Sri Gauranga. In Krsna pitha reside those jivas whose devotional mood is primarily madhurya appended with audarya-they are the devotees of Sri Krsna.

In Gaura pitha reside those jivas whose devotional mood is most pronouncedly audarya supported by madhurya. They are the eternal servitors of Sri Gauranga.

In certain cases, some eternally liberated souls are present simultaneously in both the pithas, through svarupa vyuha, personal expansions.

In other instances particular parsadas participate in one pitha in their spiritual form being absent in the other.

Devotees who worship ‘Sria Gauranga exclusively in their period of sadhana attain Gaura pitha when they are liberated and perfect. Whereas those who worship Sri Krsna exclusively in their period of sadhana serve in Krsna pitha after liberation.Then there are those devotees in their period of sadhana worship both Sri Krsna and Sri Gauranga. After obtaining liberation they acquire two transcendental forms and serve Sri Krsna in Krsna pitha and Sri Gauranga in Gaura pitha simultaneoulsy. This is the divine and confidential mystery of the inconceivable simultaneous oneness and difference of Sri Krsna and Sri Gauranga.

(pg 276 Jaiva Dharma.Tranlation by Sarvabhavana das)

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720624SB.LA Lectures
The parampara system means… Just like we claim parampara system from Krsna. So whatever Krsna says or He said 5,000
years ago, we are repeating the same thing. That is called parampara system. Not that “The world has changed. Scientific advancement is
very great. Now we can interpret in this way and that way.” This is all nonsense. All nonsense. You cannot change a single alphabet. They
are all unmistakable. They cannot be changed. So that is niscayam atmanah. If you want to know positively, what is God, then we should take
lesson from a self-realized soul who has understood, who has seen. Jnaninas tattva-darsinah. Just like here it is tattva-niscayam
atmanah. So tattvam, the truth, so one must have seen the truth,
realized the truth. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet. That is
guru. Means one who has seen the truth. How he has seen the truth?
Through the parampara system. Krsna said this, and then Brahma said
the same thing, then Narada said the same thing, Vyasadeva said the
same thing, and then disciplic succession, Madhvacarya, Madhavendra
Puri, Isvara Puri, Lord Caitanya, Sad-gosvami, Krsnadasa Kaviraja
Gosvami, Srinivasa Acarya, Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha
Cakravarti Thakura. In this way. Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Gaura Kisora

dasa Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. Then we are speaking. The same
thing. Not that “Because we are modernized… Your modern science has
changed.” Nothing has changed. It is all foolishness.

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Ok now contrast here what Srila Prabhupada says above, with what our “modern science” editors from the BBT say on the exact same topic of why they feel they can change the parampara conclusions…

“On the side of not changing the “initiated” phrases we have the strong bias against changing the books unless absolutely necessary and the fact that Srila Prabhupada did indeed say that Jagannatha das Babaji initiated Bhaktivinode.” (BBT Editor, Dravida Das)

Ok so now Dravida admits the Srila Prabhupada DID say that Jagannatha das babaji did initiate Bhaktivinode thakur .This admission on his part means he can read plain english of an already published book written by Srila Prabhupada. So why change the text by taking out the word “initiated”?

Dravida says- Leaving one or both “initiated”s will strongly imply that the use of the phrases “direct disciple” and even “accepted [as his disciple]” indicate formal initiation as we know it in ISKCON, which is far from the truth.” [bold font and underline emphasis is mine] (BBT Editor, Dravida Das)

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Jai Srila Prabhupada!

Sometimes they come, however, by the order of the Lord-not to hold any administrative post, but to associate with the Lord in person or to propagate the mesage of God in human society. Such empowered representative are called saktyavesha-avataras, or incarnations invested with transcendental power of attorney.

SB 3.5.21

Srila Prabhupada states that the nitya-siddha-parshadas [eternally liberated associates] are not ordinary living entities like us..

“…The personality of Godhead Lord Vishnu descends to the material planets in his innumerable incarnations for particular purposes, and again He goes back to His own abode. When He descends He is called an avatāra because avatāra means “one who descends.” Neither the Lord Himself nor His specific devotees who come to this earth are ordinary living entities like us …” Srimad-Bhagavatam “The Status Quo” The Appearance of Lord Varaha SB 3.13.47

Srila Prabhupada regarding the position of great liberated souls who appear from time to time in this world.

“… Regarding the first question in your letter about how do we know of the spiritual abodes since once going there no one returns, you should know that the great liberated souls and incarnations who appear from time to time in this material world are not actually coming back, because they are never subject to material contamination or the laws of material nature. For the purpose of delivering the fallen living entities they come here temporarily and then go back when their business is finished, and this is all under the direct order of the Lord. So the appearance of the Lord or the great liberated souls in the material is different from the appearance of the contaminated living entity who is forced to take birth in the material world due to his desire to lord it over the world. In your second question you asked if we will remember the earth, when in Vrindaban, and the answer is certainly. When Narada Muni was talking to Vyasadeva, as you may have read in first volume of our Srimad-Bhagavatam, he was in a spiritual body, but he remembered his previous life and explained it to Vyasadeva. In material life there is forgetfulness, but in spiritual life there is no forgetfulness. I hope this will sufficiently answer these questions for you…” Srila Prabhupada letter to Vrndavanesvari devi dasi – June 6, 1969.

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Sri Gadadhara Pandita avirbhava tithi [divine appearance of Sri Gadadhara pandita]

compiled by damaghosa dasa, Narasimha dasa and Yasodanandana dasaSrila Prabhupada explains the glories of Sri Gadadhara Pandita

gadādhara-paṇḍitādi prabhura ‘śakti’-avatāra

‘antaraṅga-bhakta’ kari’ gaṇana yāṅhāra

SYNONYMS

gadādhara—of the name Gadādhara; paṇḍita—of the learned scholar; ādi—headed by; prabhura—of the Lord; śakti—potency; avatāra—incarnation; antaraṅga—very confidential; bhakta—devotee; kari‘-accepting; gaṇana—counting; yāṅhāra—of whom.

TRANSLATION

The devotees headed by Gadādhara Paṇḍita are to be considered incarnations of the internal potency of the Lord. They are confidential devotees engaged in the service of the Lord.

PURPORT

In connection with verses sixteen and seventeen, Śrī Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura explains in his Anubhāṣya: “There are specific symptoms by which the internal devotees and the unalloyed or pure devotees are to be known. All unalloyed devotees are śakti-tattvas, or potencies of the Lord. Some of them are situated in conjugal love and others in filial affection, fraternity and servitude. Certainly all of them are devotees, but by making a comparative study it is found that the devotees or potencies who are engaged in conjugal love are better situated than the others. Thus devotees who are in a relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead in conjugal love are considered to be the most confidential devotees of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Those who engage in the service of Lord Nityānanda Prabhu and Lord Advaita Prabhu generally have relationships of parental love, fraternity, servitude and neutrality. When such devotees develop great attachment for Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, they too become situated within the intimate circle of devotees in conjugal love.” This gradual development of devotional service is described by Śrī Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura as follows:

gaurāṅga balite habe pulaka śarīra
hari hari balite nayane ba’be nīra

āra kabe nitāicāṅda karuṇā karibe
saṁsāra-vāsanā mora kabe tuccha habe

viṣaya chāḍiyā kabe śuddha habe mana
kabe hāma heraba śrī-vṛndāvana

rūpa-raghunātha-pade ha-ibe ākuti
kabe hāma bujhaba śrī-yugala-pirīti

“When will there be eruptions on my body as soon as I chant the name of Lord Caitanya, and when will there be incessant torrents of tears as soon as I chant the holy names Hare Kṛṣṇa? When will Lord Nityānanda be merciful toward me and free me from all desires for material enjoyment? When will my mind be completely freed from all contamination of desires for material pleasure? Only at that time will it be possible for me to understand Vṛndāvana. Only if I become attached to the instructions given by the six Gosvāmīs, headed by Rūpa Gosvāmī and Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī, will it be possible for me to understand the conjugal love of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa.” By attachment to the devotional service of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu one immediately comes to the ecstatic position. When he develops his love for Nityānanda Prabhu he is freed from all attachment to the material world, and at that time he becomes eligible to understand the Lord’s pastimes in Vṛndāvana. In that condition, when one develops his love for the six Gosvāmīs, he can understand the conjugal love between Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. These are the different stages of a pure devotee’s promotion to conjugal love in the service of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa in an intimate relationship with Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 7: Lord Caitanya in Five Features : Adi 7.17

jaya jayādvaita ācārya kṛpāmaya

jaya jaya gadādhara paṇḍita mahāśaya

SYNONYMS

jaya jaya—all glories; advaita—unto Advaita Prabhu; ācārya—teacher; kṛpāmaya—very merciful; jaya jaya—all glories to; gadādhara—of the name Gadādhara; paṇḍita—learned scholar; mahāśaya—great personality.

TRANSLATION

Let me offer my respectful obeisances unto Advaita Ācārya, who is very merciful, and also to that great personality Gadādhara Paṇḍita, the learned scholar.Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 8: The Author Receives the Orders of Krsna and Guru : Adi 8.3 :

puṇḍarīka vidyānidhi–baḍa-śākhā jāni

yāṅra nāma lañā prabhu kāndilā āpani

SYNONYMS

puṇḍarīka vidyānidhi—of the name Puṇḍarīka Vidyānidhi; baḍa–śākhā—another big branch; jāni—I know; yāṅra nāma—whose name; lañā—taking; prabhu—the Lord; kāndilā—cried; āpani—Himself.

TRANSLATION

Puṇḍarīka Vidyānidhi, the third big branch, was so dear to Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu that in his absence Lord Caitanya Himself would sometimes cry.

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Hare Krsna

Below are two different lectures-the first one explains why we come into this world and stay here. The second was given in 1966 in NY where Srila Prabhupada easily explains why concept and practice of how to Love God or Krsna has to be the predominant motivating factor in our lives, otherwise there will never be religious life (dharma), there will never be economic growth (artha), there will never be sense enjoyment (kama), and there will never finally be liberation from this place (moksa). He ends with saying these things are all nice, but with no love for God they are all nonsense, or useless.

Damaghosa das

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Hare Krsna

Below is a very nice summary of Krsna Consciousness given early on by Srila Prabhupada.

He explains:

1. Why we all suffer and fear things in this material world

2. How to fix that problem

3. How to get all our material necessities without huge endeavor

4. One should be developing the 26 saintly qualities

5. One must accept the “rope” given by guru to one fallen in a material hole-by initiation.

damaghosa das

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Hare Krishna Society

C.C. names who does NOT get the mercy of God

Curing the madman disease–SP

Krsna is living everywhere but comes in a way we can see Him

Krishna Consciousness is Genuine: A Logical Proof

What is the destination of one who worships Lord Gauranga?

What is the parampara system?-SP No one has the right to change it !

The exalted position of the pure devotee, sakti avesa avatara, Srila Prabhupada!

Sri Gadadhara Pandita avirbhava tithi [appearance]

Why we come and stay in this material world-and what to do about it-SP

Fearfulness-how to stop it–SP