June 28 1976 discussion of different philosophies
They have no conception of God, and they are preaching religion. What is that religion? That will be misused. Religion means dharmaṁ tu sāksād bhagavat-praṇītam [SB 6.3.19]. Religion means God’s order. If there is no God, where is religion? This is going on. They have no conception of God. What is God they do not know, and professing some religion. How long it will go on artificially? It will deteriorate. That has become the present condition. They have no idea of God, and how they will know what is the order of God? And religion means order of God. Just like law means order of the state. Law means order of the state. So if there is no state, where is the order? You can manufacture your own order. That is going on. There is no conception of God. We have got clear conception of God. Here is God, Kṛṣṇa. And He’s giving orders. We accept it. And it is clear religion. And if there is no God, no conception of God, no order of God, then where is religion? If there if no government, then where is law? Outlaw. Everyone is outlaw. That is going on. Ask any religious system what is the conception of God. Can anyone tell clearly? Nobody can say. We shall immediately say, veṇuṁ kvaṇantam aravinda-dalāyatākṣaṁ barhāvataṁsam asitāmbuda-sundarāṅgam [Bs. 5.30]. Aṅgāni yasya sakalendriya-vṛttimanti… immediately description, “Here is God.” Then there is religion. And if there is no God, where is religion? Bogus. Therefore declining. They have no conception of God, and therefore there is no understanding of religion. Therefore it is declining. So this is the cause of declining. And because it is declining, human being becoming more animals. Animal means there will be no memory. A dog comes… Here is some eatables. He comes. I say, “Hut!” He goes away. Again he comes. No memory. So when this memory is reducing that means human quality is reduced. So in the Kali-yuga these eight things will reduce. That means they are becoming like cats and dogs.
Some Conclusions-I think one of the worst things I see in present day devotees is their attachment to cats and dogs. Mostly dogs. Back in the “day” nobody would ever consider having a so called pet dog. Now today practically all of them have a dog.
I actually had one before I moved into the temple, and after seeing Srila Prabhupada for the first time, when I got back home, my dog was gone, along with my so called “girl friend”. Krsna took them both away to make surrendering to Him much easier.
In the above conversation Prabhupada makes a nice point about the memory of a dog and since it has basically none, it keeps coming back for your food even though you say Hut-get away. So the more people (and devotees) are losing memory of God the more dog like they are becoming. First quality of a dog is unclean-untouchable.
And if cleanliness is next to Godliness, then how having a dog can this happen?
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das
ps-I am sure to get some negative feedback from this one!
SB 4.22–When one deviates from his original consciousness,he loses the capacity to remember his previous position or recognize his present one.When remembrance is lost, all knowledge acquired is based on a false foundation. When this occurs, learned scholars considerthat the soul is lost.
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Although inmodern society the dog is accepted as part of one’s
household paraphernalia,in the Vedic system of household life the dog
is untouchable;as mentioned here, a dog may be maintained with proper
food, but it cannot be allowed to enter one’s house, what to speak of
the bedroom
Although inmodern society the dog is accepted as part of one’s
household paraphernalia,in the Vedic system of household life the dog
is untouchable;as mentioned here, a dog may be maintained with proper
food, but it cannot be allowed to enter one’s house, what to speak of
the bedroom
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Canakya Pandita says, candala-vesmani. Candala means untouchable, the
dog-eaters.In the Vedic conception, the dog-eaters are untouchable.
Actually they should be untouchable. Meat-eaters are untouchable.
Canakya Pandita says, candala-vesmani. Candala means untouchable, the
dog-eaters.In the Vedic conception, the dog-eaters are untouchable.
Actually they should be untouchable. Meat-eaters are untouchable.
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Prabhupada:Yes. We are brainwashing frombad to good. That is our
business. We are washing the brain from all rascaldom. That is our
business. You are… Your brain is filled up with all rubbish things:
meat-eating and illicit sex, gambling. So we are washing them.
Ceto-darpana-marjanam. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah
punya-sravana-kirtanah, hrdy antah-stho abhadrani. Abhadrani washing.
Abhadrani means bad things. The bad things should be washed off. Don’t
you cleanse your home? Don’t you cleanse your room? Is not that
brainwashing? So if you wash your room very cleansed, who blames you?
But you are so rascal that “Why you are washing this garbage?” you are
protesting. You are such an intelligent man.We are washing the
garbage;you are protesting, “Why you are washing the garbage?” This
is your intelligence. But intelligent men wash the garbage. That is
the law of nature, cleanse. That we are doing.According to Vedic
civilization, you are actually untouchable. Now we have come to touch
you;therefore wash you must first. You are untouchable.In Indian
civilization, dog is untouchable, and that is your best friend.So you
are not touchable. Therefore we have to wash you.And unless your
brain is washed, you cannot understand Krsna. So it is necessary. Is
that all right? Dog is your best friend.In India dog is untouchable.
Prabhupada:Yes. We are brainwashing frombad to good. That is our
business. We are washing the brain from all rascaldom. That is our
business. You are… Your brain is filled up with all rubbish things:
meat-eating and illicit sex, gambling. So we are washing them.
Ceto-darpana-marjanam. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah
punya-sravana-kirtanah, hrdy antah-stho abhadrani. Abhadrani washing.
Abhadrani means bad things. The bad things should be washed off. Don’t
you cleanse your home? Don’t you cleanse your room? Is not that
brainwashing? So if you wash your room very cleansed, who blames you?
But you are so rascal that “Why you are washing this garbage?” you are
protesting. You are such an intelligent man.We are washing the
garbage;you are protesting, “Why you are washing the garbage?” This
is your intelligence. But intelligent men wash the garbage. That is
the law of nature, cleanse. That we are doing.According to Vedic
civilization, you are actually untouchable. Now we have come to touch
you;therefore wash you must first. You are untouchable.In Indian
civilization, dog is untouchable, and that is your best friend.So you
are not touchable. Therefore we have to wash you.And unless your
brain is washed, you cannot understand Krsna. So it is necessary. Is
that all right? Dog is your best friend.In India dog is untouchable.
So “Man is known by his company.”If your best friend is dog, then
what you are? We can understand your position because you sleep with
dog, you eat with dog, your best friend is dog, so what you are? You
must be washed. It is a fact. Every woman, every man, has some dog.
what you are? We can understand your position because you sleep with
dog, you eat with dog, your best friend is dog, so what you are? You
must be washed. It is a fact. Every woman, every man, has some dog.
So this picture in your back yard?? or….. see below
Or would you rather see this picture in your temple room?
Teaching in Kali yua is somewhat difficult. There is saying-“You can always tell a devotee, ya just cant tell him anything !!!”
