Hare Krsna-Below we have 4 very short separate conversations with Srila Prabhupada in which he nicely explains :
1) Our position in Varnashrama system depends upon the quality of our work and he gives the example that unless one is independent in his livlihood, he cannot be brahmana, Ksatriya, or Vaisya. And next he explains how to do that. To be actual Vaisnava is not so easy a thing-one must be 100% above the three modes of nature.
2) Srila Prabhupada say..everyone should be engaged in producing their own food. The devotee must be clever– which means he must not allow the leaders of the cities to cheat him by alluring him there by paper money, being surrounded constantly by sinful life, and instead stay on your own land , produce your necesssities, and be happy.!
3) We want to keep everyone in a peaceful condition of life, not bothered by constant anxieties of modern city life.
4) Simply to say “I belong to Krsna’s family”-is not enough. We must DO something, some tangible service for Krsna !
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Prabhupada: Yes. That is the statement of the sastra. Kalau
sudra-sambhavah: “In the Kali-yuga everyone is sudra.”
1) Our position in Varnashrama system depends upon the quality of our work and he gives the example that unless one is independent in his livlihood, he cannot be brahmana, Ksatriya, or Vaisya. And next he explains how to do that. To be actual Vaisnava is not so easy a thing-one must be 100% above the three modes of nature.
2) Srila Prabhupada say..everyone should be engaged in producing their own food. The devotee must be clever– which means he must not allow the leaders of the cities to cheat him by alluring him there by paper money, being surrounded constantly by sinful life, and instead stay on your own land , produce your necesssities, and be happy.!
3) We want to keep everyone in a peaceful condition of life, not bothered by constant anxieties of modern city life.
4) Simply to say “I belong to Krsna’s family”-is not enough. We must DO something, some tangible service for Krsna !
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Prabhupada: Yes. That is the statement of the sastra. Kalau
sudra-sambhavah: “In the Kali-yuga everyone is sudra.”
Guest (2): :So only those who have independent means, then, would come
in the…
Prabhupada: They can be counted, yes. Because a brahmana is advised
not to accept service at any circumstances. That is the injunction of
the sastra. He can take the profession of a ksatriya or a vaisya, but
not the sudra. That is brahmana.
not to accept service at any circumstances. That is the injunction of
the sastra. He can take the profession of a ksatriya or a vaisya, but
not the sudra. That is brahmana.
Guest (2): So whoever cannot stand on his own legs as an independent
businessman or landlord or whatever it be, he’s a sudra.
Prabhupada: Yes. These are described in the Bhagavad-gita. I have not
manufactured these things. These are sastra, that “He’s
brahmana,”–the qualification. “He’s ksatriya,”–qualification. “He’s
vaisya,”–qualification. “He’s sudra–by qualification.” And Narada
Muni says, but we have to judge by the qualification.
manufactured these things. These are sastra, that “He’s
brahmana,”–the qualification. “He’s ksatriya,”–qualification. “He’s
vaisya,”–qualification. “He’s sudra–by qualification.” And Narada
Muni says, but we have to judge by the qualification.
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Prabhupada: …satisfied to remain in the village. That is the defect
of the modern civilization.
Mother: In India, you mean. You’re talking of India now.
Prabhupada: Everywhere.
Mother: Everywhere.
Prabhupada: Yes. Everywhere.
Mother: What about India? I mean, do they believe, the villagers?
Prabhupada: India, actually, they do so.
Mother: Yes.
Prabhupada: The villagers, they have cows and land. That is sufficient
for their economic problem. But the industrialists, they are alluring
them, “To get more money, come here.” So they are going to the cities.
And the food production in the village is neglected. And therefore the
food grain price is rising. Actually, everyone should be engaged to
produce food, but the modern set-up of civilization is that few people
are engaged in producing food, and others are eating. They are
offering… They are artificially getting money. So they are offering
paper, “Here is ten dollars.” Although it is a paper, cheating. And
they are captivated by cheating. They, they are thinking, “I have got
now hundred dollars.” What is this hundred dollars? It is paper. So
Prabhupada: …satisfied to remain in the village. That is the defect
of the modern civilization.
Mother: In India, you mean. You’re talking of India now.
Prabhupada: Everywhere.
Mother: Everywhere.
Prabhupada: Yes. Everywhere.
Mother: What about India? I mean, do they believe, the villagers?
Prabhupada: India, actually, they do so.
Mother: Yes.
Prabhupada: The villagers, they have cows and land. That is sufficient
for their economic problem. But the industrialists, they are alluring
them, “To get more money, come here.” So they are going to the cities.
And the food production in the village is neglected. And therefore the
food grain price is rising. Actually, everyone should be engaged to
produce food, but the modern set-up of civilization is that few people
are engaged in producing food, and others are eating. They are
offering… They are artificially getting money. So they are offering
paper, “Here is ten dollars.” Although it is a paper, cheating. And
they are captivated by cheating. They, they are thinking, “I have got
now hundred dollars.” What is this hundred dollars? It is paper. So
some people are cheating and some people are being cheated. This is
the society.
Mother: Yes. But I think one has to be clever enough not to let people
cheat you.
Prabhupada: Clever means that he must stay in his own land. He should
not be cheated by the paper and go to the city.
Mother: But we have to teach our young to be able to define between
those who cheat and those who…, be able to tell people who…
Prabhupada: The whole civilization is a plan of cheating others.
That’s all. And they’re all sinful. According to our Vedic
understanding, there are four things sinful, pillars of sinful life:
illicit sex, unnecessary killing of animals, intoxication and
gambling.
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the society.
Mother: Yes. But I think one has to be clever enough not to let people
cheat you.
Prabhupada: Clever means that he must stay in his own land. He should
not be cheated by the paper and go to the city.
Mother: But we have to teach our young to be able to define between
those who cheat and those who…, be able to tell people who…
Prabhupada: The whole civilization is a plan of cheating others.
That’s all. And they’re all sinful. According to our Vedic
understanding, there are four things sinful, pillars of sinful life:
illicit sex, unnecessary killing of animals, intoxication and
gambling.
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Prabhupāda: The solution is there. They won’t take it. Solution is there, that everyone produce your own food. There is so much land; utilize it. The solution is there. No. They want to sit down on the table, chair, in a very nice compartment, and making solution. They won’t go…..
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Prabhupada: That is necessities of life. Because you have got this
body, so you must supply the necessities of the body. That we supply.
Not only that. We want to keep men in so peaceful condition that he’s
not disturbed by mental anxieties, bodily disease, natural
disturbances and fighting or quarreling with other living entities. So
when he’s perfectly in peaceful condition of life, [then] he can save time
for advancement in spiritual consciousness.
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…all of a sudden… (break) You see the so-called swamis and yogis.
They could not do anything, because they are outsider. They are not
within the jurisdiction of Krsna. One must remain within the
jurisdiction of Krsna. Then his spiritual life is assured. Otherwise,
paramour(?). (break) Similarly, everything, everyone belongs to
Krsna’s family, but we have to see what he’s doing for Krsna. Just
like everyone is citizen of the state. Why a man is given high
position and big title? Why? Because he’s recognized.
Sudama: Right.
Prabhupada: So one must give service. Simply to feel, “I belong to
Krsna’s family,” and doing nothing for Krsna, that is not…
Sudama: That’s no good.
Prabhupada: That’s no good. That is not good. That means he’ll… Very
soon he’ll again forget Krsna. He’ll again forget Krsna.
Sudama: Actually, the other element is so powerful. These people here,
because, even though they are part of Krsna’s family, but because they
have forgotten, then we become influenced by their forgetfulness.
Prabhupada: Yes. Forgetfulness means maya.
Some Conclusions-–Srila Prabhupada is trying to help us become Vaisnavas, not just followers of some vedic culture.
But the irony is that unless one does follow the Vedic Varnashrama culture, it is very difficult to become a Vaisnava. Otherwise why so many devotees made and then fall from the actual standard and then leave ? Be surprised who stays not who comes, he used to say. So the above statements are meant to show how he wanted us to live in this kali yuga.
City life is horrible, everybody should admit, and rural country life is much simpler, purer, and gives one knowledge of the self thru living in the sattva guna, mode of goodness. Therefore, he advocates that “everyone” grow their own food. Of course we know that cent percent of the people are not going to grow their own food, as that is just is not possible. But Prabhupada means by the word “everyone”-that practically everyone should grow their own food, become self sufficient and kiss the rat race in the cities goodbye- forever !
Therefore my humble service, at least one of them, is to hear these instructions by Srila Prabhupada, implement them in my own life, and then suggest tol others about doing it themselves as well. (See my new book below)
Judge by the result-–which mode of living in this kali yuga is most advantageous for spiritual life,
Prabhupada: That is necessities of life. Because you have got this
body, so you must supply the necessities of the body. That we supply.
Not only that. We want to keep men in so peaceful condition that he’s
not disturbed by mental anxieties, bodily disease, natural
disturbances and fighting or quarreling with other living entities. So
when he’s perfectly in peaceful condition of life, [then] he can save time
for advancement in spiritual consciousness.
4) 731205mw.la Conversations 347610/530501
…all of a sudden… (break) You see the so-called swamis and yogis.
They could not do anything, because they are outsider. They are not
within the jurisdiction of Krsna. One must remain within the
jurisdiction of Krsna. Then his spiritual life is assured. Otherwise,
paramour(?). (break) Similarly, everything, everyone belongs to
Krsna’s family, but we have to see what he’s doing for Krsna. Just
like everyone is citizen of the state. Why a man is given high
position and big title? Why? Because he’s recognized.
Sudama: Right.
Prabhupada: So one must give service. Simply to feel, “I belong to
Krsna’s family,” and doing nothing for Krsna, that is not…
Sudama: That’s no good.
Prabhupada: That’s no good. That is not good. That means he’ll… Very
soon he’ll again forget Krsna. He’ll again forget Krsna.
Sudama: Actually, the other element is so powerful. These people here,
because, even though they are part of Krsna’s family, but because they
have forgotten, then we become influenced by their forgetfulness.
Prabhupada: Yes. Forgetfulness means maya.
Some Conclusions-–Srila Prabhupada is trying to help us become Vaisnavas, not just followers of some vedic culture.
But the irony is that unless one does follow the Vedic Varnashrama culture, it is very difficult to become a Vaisnava. Otherwise why so many devotees made and then fall from the actual standard and then leave ? Be surprised who stays not who comes, he used to say. So the above statements are meant to show how he wanted us to live in this kali yuga.
City life is horrible, everybody should admit, and rural country life is much simpler, purer, and gives one knowledge of the self thru living in the sattva guna, mode of goodness. Therefore, he advocates that “everyone” grow their own food. Of course we know that cent percent of the people are not going to grow their own food, as that is just is not possible. But Prabhupada means by the word “everyone”-that practically everyone should grow their own food, become self sufficient and kiss the rat race in the cities goodbye- forever !
Therefore my humble service, at least one of them, is to hear these instructions by Srila Prabhupada, implement them in my own life, and then suggest tol others about doing it themselves as well. (See my new book below)
Judge by the result-–which mode of living in this kali yuga is most advantageous for spiritual life,
which is superior in terms of gaining physical and mental health?
How does one get free from so much anxiety-so easily?
Where is the best place to raise a family?
What do the Vedas say about what is- real wealth?
And this list could go on practically forever. It can be done, one just has to start thinking “out of the box” as the karmis say. Out of the karmi city box we have put ourselves. Cities have a ( Krsna Conscious) purpose, but only for preaching and nothing else. If one is not doing serious preaching in the cities, then living there is a waste of time. and highly contaminating as well. Srila Prabhupada started this movement in the cities because that is where most people are, but he wanted to take it out of these same cities and help devotees to acclimate themselves more and more with the mode of goodness. This is the second phase of Srila Prabhupadas great plan for saving mankind in kali yuga. Live in the country, grow your own food, establish communities,preach, worship the Deity daily, and be happy !!
Final Note--Srila Prabhupada has given us everything-what to do , what not to do and how to be happy while chanting Hare Krsna maha mantra. But who is listening to him??? This book below is worth 40 years of working and studying his instructions-what sane person would not want to buy this book, get the information, and save so much time? It is worth far more than $21 US dollars, which today is nothing- a very small bag of groceries, that’s all.
damaghosa das
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