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THE BONA FIDE GURU IS CONNECTED TO KARUNA SAGARA-THE OCEAN OF MERCY

 

761130SB.VRN                   Lectures

Similarly, the mercy cloud, karunya, karuna,

ghanaghanatvam… So just like ordinary cloud is made possible by

evaporating water from the sea, similarly, Krsna has the sea of mercy,

karunayamaya, karuna-sagara. Krsna’s another name is Karuna-sagara. So

as the air evaporate or the heat evaporate from the sea, and the cloud

is formed in the sky, similarly, one who has connection or the power

to evaporate the mercy sea of Krsna, he can extinguish the samsara

davanala.(repeated birth and deathAnd that is guru. Guru is the cloud or he is the agent of

drying water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna and turn it into a mercy

cloud and pour water on the samsara davanala, and then it is

extinguished. Samsara davanala-lidha-loka-tranaya

karunya-ghanaghanatvam, praptasya kalyana.

Therefore guru must be authorized person, not that

bhumi-phala-guru(?). No. “I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru

unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of

mercy of Krsna. That is guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary

person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krsna.

Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung, krsna se tomara, krsna dite para:

“Vaisnava Thakura, Krsna is your property. If you like, you can give.”

Vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau. You cannot get Krsna by

studying Vedas. That is not possible. There is Krsna in the Vedas, but

you cannot pick up. It is not possible. But if you go to the Krsna’s

favorite person… Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Krsna’s very

dear servant, confidential servant, is guru. Nobody can become guru

unless he is in confidence of Krsna. Na ca tasmad manusyesu kascid me

priya-krttamah. These things are there. Not that by magic one can

become guru. No. .

 

[So if somebody is considering accepting someone as his guru, he should ask that person

can you, my dear Mr. guru, extinguish the blazing fire of my material existence by your being directly connected to Karuna Sagara, the unlimited Ocean of Mercy called God ?? And are you

in direct confidence with God, you can speak to Him as well?]

 

761130SB.VRN                   Lectures

cannot be changed. God’s word cannot be changed. Then what will be the

difference between God and ourself? He is always perfect. He is always

perfect. What He said forty millions of years ago, what He said five

thousand years ago, that is also correct up to date. That is sastra.

Not that “So many years have passed and it has become old. Now let us

reform it and put it into new way.” No. You can put the same thing in

a new way, but you cannot change the principle. Sadhu sastra

guru-vakya, tinete kariya aikya. Sastra is never changed. And the

sadhu… Sadhu means who follows the sastras. He is sadhu. He also

does not change. Sadhu, sastra. And guru? Guru means who follows the

sastra and sadhu. So there are three, the same. A guru will not

change, that “It was spoken five thousand years ago. That is not

applicable now. Now I am giving you something new, jugglery.” He is

useless. Sadhu sastra guru-vakya tinete kariya aikya. Yah

sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama karatah, na siddhim avapnoti. These

things are there.

 

[the above words  of Srila Prabhupada could be sent to Jayadvaita and Dravida asking them both

after reading the above, how they can justify changing the words of their spiritual master?] 

 

761228SB.VRN                   Lectures

 Sometimes bhakti is observed as similar to the activities of the

karmis, but there is difference. One is bhakti, one is going back to

home, back to Godhead; and the other is going forward to the hellish

condition of life by the same activities. This is the technique. How

it is possible? It is possible. By practical example, it is said in

the sastras… Just like if you take more quantity of milk

preparation, you get diarrhea. But the same milk preparation, yogurt,

is there. It will stop diarrhea. Both of them are milk preparation.

One has created the disease diarrhea, and another is stopping

diarrhea. So why? Cikirsitam. One is by medical process and the other

is without any medical process. The medical process is to satisfy

Krsna. Here the building is being constructed to satisfy Krsna. To

satisfy Krsna. And in other places the building is constructed to

satisfy senses. This is the difference, material and spiritual.

Material means to satisfy one’s senses. Nunam pramattah kurute

vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti. Karma means they are working very

hard like dogs and hogs, but the purpose is indriya-priti. Nunam

pramattah: they are mad. They should not… And why mad? Because the

karma means you are creating another body. And as soon as there is

another body, dehantara-praptir, so long you have got this material

body, you’ll suffer. That is the law of nature. Karmanu bandhah. Yavan

priti mayi deve… tavat karmanu bandhanah. The karmanu-bandha will

continue. Therefore in the sastra it is recommended, yajnarthe karma

anyatra karma-bandhanah. Don’t act anything except for the

satisfaction of Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. If you do

anything for your sense gratification, that means you are being bound

up by the laws of karma. Laws of karma, it is very strict according to

the modes of activities. Purusah prakrti-stho hi bhunkte karma-jan

gunan.

 

[How do we know if we are satisfying Krsna by our acts? A conditioned soul does not know. That

is why we have to act under the constant direction of a bona fide spiritual master,

Srila Prabhupada. Otherwise–another birth, perhaps??]

 

750520SB.MEL                   Lectures

…The human form is the full manifestation of the soul.

Hari-sauri: They are covered in the spiritual world?

Madhudvisa: He is asking if they were actually covered in the

spiritual world as well.

Prabhupada: Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some

devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I

want that “As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna,”

he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his…, from flower

to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If

some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as

calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father,

as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yatha mam prapadyante

tams tathaiva bhajamy aham. That is Krsna’s all-powerfulness,

spiritual life.

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