Which Vrndavana does Srila Prabhupada want? One with huge economic developments or a simple village where the cows, calves, and Gopis will enjoy??

Hare Krsna-Below we have summarized (in 8-quotes summary form) what Srila Prabhupada thinks about thebuilding and developments of Vrndavana and New Vrndavana-he does NOT want economic development in either of these areas but instead wants it to remain simple, clean, and free of the modern mentality of “industrial development”. Please read these statements below and let the reader form their own opinion of what is presently going on there and if that is in line with Srila Prabhupadas thinking, or not. If this developmental mentality is not in line with Srila Prabhupada and the previous Acaryas, then the result will not be good. You decide for yourself.

 

Summary of Prabhupada Quotes….

1.The description of Vṛndāvana forest as given herewith was spoken by Kṛṣṇa five thousand years ago, and the same condition prevailed during the time of the Vaiṣṇava ācāryas three or four hundred years ago

2.The same sounds and atmosphere still prevail in the area where our Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma temple is situated. Everyone who visits this temple is pleased to hear the chirping of the birds as described here (kūjat-kokila-haṁsa-sārasa).

 

3.Vrindaban does not require to be modernizedbecause Krishna’s Vrindaban is transcendental village.

4. Better to live there without modern amenities. But to live a natural healthy life for executing Krishna Consciousness.

5. Letter to Hayagriva, 17th August, 1968

When you were here I suggested to purchase the land outright. But I think it has not been possible. But on the face of the lease it appears as good as sale document. But the clause, ‘Excepting and reserving however, all of the coal within and underlying said property, and subject to the mining rights and privileges set forth in the deed conveying said coal made by Joseph E. McCombs, et al., dated March 30, 1903, recorded in the said clerks office in Deed Book 98, at page 185,’ has caused my headache.

6.  Even the government does not acquire our land, if in our vicinity some such industry (coal or oil industry) is started, the whole idea of New Vrndavana will fade away.

 

7. Vrndavana conception is a transcendental village, without any botheration of the modern industrial atmosphere. independently, completely depending on agricultural produce and milk from the cows. The life should be simplified without being hampered by laboring day and night for economic development, without any spiritual understanding.

 

8. The whole Vedic principle is to develop Krsna consciousness, without creating much botheration for the program of sense gratification. Industrial development (or mining industry) in the neighboring places will mar the whole idea. Now you have to consider yourself, looking forward to the future of the land, and then decide what to do. I do not like to have New Vrndavana with industrial or mining areas. I have got experience of them in India, that the mining areas are simply next to dungeon. The workers in the mines are considered to be residing in hell. And we can never expect any good behavior from such workers. So we must think of the atmosphere around Vrndavana.   

In India also, our present government are trying to develop industries in the vast tracts of land around Vrndavana and creating a hellish atmosphere. 

 

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Vyasa Puja Homage to Srila Prabhupada by Yasoda nandana dasa  

                                                                        

Vyasa Puja Homage to Srila Prabhupada

by Yasoda nandana dasa

Srila Prabhupada, I simply want to pay my obeisances at your lotus feet for all the wonderful gifts and your causeless mercy, that you have bestowed upon the world and to your students, followers and disciples.

The following is a wonderful summary of a few of your amazing preaching accomplishments, expertly presented by your original editor, Hayagriva dasa. It is an auspicious day to always be mindful of the tremendous sacrifices and awesome preaching accomplishments of Your Divine Grace.

As Raghunatha dasa Goswami has nicely articulated his homages to Srila Rupa Goswami,

adadanas trinam dantair idam yace punah punah

shrimad-rupa-padambhoja-dhulih syam janma-janmani (2)

(Shri Mukta-carita, Raghunatha dasa Gosvami)

 

Clasping a straw between my teeth, I repeatedly beg to attain the dust of the lotus feet of Shrimad Rupa Gosvami birth after birth.

I offer my unconditional obeisances at your lotus feet.

 

adadanas trinam dantair idam yace punah punah

                                     Prabhupada padambhoja-dhulih syam janma-janmani

Clasping a straw between my teeth, I repeatedly beg to attain the dust of the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada [HDG ACBSP] birth after birth.

 

Your eternal servant,

Yasoda nandana dasa

 

 

nama om visnu-padaya krsna-presthaya

bhutale srimate bhaktivedanta-svamin iti namine

 

    I offer my humble obeisances unto His Divine Grace Prabhupada A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, who is very dear to Lord Krsna on this earth, having taken shelter of the lotus feet of that ever-youthful, beautiful, transcendental Lord,

 

    who, alone, in his seventieth year, threw family, society, friendship, love to the wind, left mother India and set sail around the earth to foreign, unknown shores because his spiritual master spoke to him in a dream,

 

    who carried the glorious message of the munificent Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu to a nation plagued with the leprosy of voidism and impersonalism, who brought an ageless message of love of Godhead,

 

    who landed in Manhattan with saffron robes, a suitcase and seven dollars and wondered at maya’s skyscrapers and empty, noisy dreams,

 

    who, with white, pointed holyman shoes, walked through the snow to Times Square and laughed at Kali’s cinema ads,

 

    who accepted residence with hashish-yogis who believed they were moving the sun and moon,

 

    who played cymbals and chanted Govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami, “I worship Govinda the Primeval Lord,” explaining to void-meditators that Krsna’s transcendental body is unlimited, that He can extend His hand to all parts of His creation, that any one part of His body can perform all the actions of all the other parts, and that simply by glancing at nature He impregnated her with countless living entities and set the cosmic systems spinning and struck up the song of the universe,

 

    who journeyed downtown, out of compassion, and set up quarters in Lower East Side narrow mice-ridden storefront and trusted Krsna to bring next month’s rent,

 

    who opened the storefront doors even to Bowery derelicts and clashed cymbals and chanted Sanskrit hymns to God, whose vibrations caught the ears of young psychedelic middle-class renegades searching for alternatives to their legacy of lies and materialism,

 

    who had and everlastingly has infinite mercy, delivering it free of charge, a matchless gift, to whomever stops to hear,

 

    who never, to my knowledge, turned one soul away, who effused them all with kindness, affection, truth,

 

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“So all my disciples are expected to become śikṣā-guru on my order…”-SP

1.) Conversation 760530R1: HONOLULU 30 May 1976

 “So all my disciples are expected to become śikṣā-guru on my order…”

 

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I am just trying to clarify—I don’t want to offend anyone—but no disciple of yours should call himself dīkṣā-guru or śikṣā-guru. Am I right?

Prabhupāda: Well, everyone is engaged to become śikṣā-guru, but one should become perfect. The attempt is—what is called?—probationer. When probationer period is finished, then he is naturally, automatically, bona fide guru. Not in the probationer period. That is immature attempt. That will failure. Āmāra ājsāya (CC Madhya 7.128), Caitanya Mahāprabhu said: “By My order.” So all my disciples are expected to become śikṣā-guru on my order, not by his own order. That is meaning I am giving sannyāsa, I am sending you to different places, so this means that you have to carry out the order of the guru very strictly; then you become mature. Otherwise it will be artificial attempt, and that kind of guru will not help. Just like there are so many gurus and avatāras and yogīs are coming. For time being there is some culture(?), and what is the effect? Just like this… What is that?

Devotee: Guru Mahārāja?

Prabhupāda: No, no. Guru Mahārāja is later than that. Before that?

Devotees: Maharishi Yogi!

Prabhupāda: So what is the effect?

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No one talks of him now.

Rāmeśvara: No. He is making big business.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Rāmeśvara: He has made his guru into guru business, big business. His men go to the college wearing tie and suit, and they initiate the students for one hundred dollars. He is making millions of dollars by cheating, and making it into a big business. He gets one hundred dollars, and he gives them a special mantra, which is just one line of…

Prabhupāda: That he was giving beginning by thirty-five dollars. Now he has made it one hundred?

Devotees: Inflation! (laughter)

Devotee: The cost of being a guru has gone up. (laughter)

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Which types of devotees are required–to visit places of pilgrimage?–SP answers

SB 3.3.26–After arriving there, all of them took bath, and with the water of this place of pilgrimage they offered their respects to the forefathers, demigods and great sages and thus satisfied them. They gave cows to the brāhmaṇas in royal charity.

PURPORT–

Amongst the devotees of the Lord there are several divisions, mainly nitya-siddhas and sādhana-siddhas. The nitya–siddha devotees never fall down to the region of the material atmosphere, even though they sometimes come onto the material plane to execute the mission of the Lord. The sādhana–siddha devotees are chosen from the conditioned souls. Out of the sādhana devotees, there are mixed and pure devotees. The mixed devotees are sometimes enthusiastic about fruitive activities and are habituated to philosophical speculation. The pure devotees are free from all these mixtures and are completely absorbed in the service of the Lord, regardless of how and where they are situated. Pure devotees of the Lord are not enthusiastic to put aside their service to the Lord in order to go visit holy places of pilgrimage. A great devotee of the Lord in modern times, Śrī Narottama dāsaṬhākura, has sung like this: “To visit holy places of pilgrimage is another bewilderment of the mind because devotional service to the Lord at any place is the last word in spiritual perfection.”

For pure devotees of the Lord who are completely satisfied with the transcendental loving service of the Lord, there is hardly any necessity to visit the various places of pilgrimage. But those who are not so advanced have the prescribed duties of visiting pilgrimage sites and regularly performing the rituals. The part of the princely order of the Yadu dynasty who went to Prabhāsa performed all duties to be done in a place of pilgrimage and offered their pious actions to their forefathers and others.

As a rule, every human being is indebted to God, the demigods, great sages, other living entities, people in general, forefathers, etc., for various contributions received from them. Thus everyone is obliged to repay the debt of gratitude. The Yadus who went to the Prabhāsa pilgrimage site performed their duties by distributing land, gold, and well-nourished cows in royal charity, as described in the following verse.

                          Sri Sri Radha GiriManohara-The Ones who Steal your mind

              

Krsna, what can I do for You…This is mantra , real mantra–SP

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Mayapur, June 17, 1973)

Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is always ready to help us, provided we are also ready to cooperate with Him. If we cooperate with Him, what Kṛṣṇa desires, if we want to do little, immediately Kṛṣṇa will help you. If you work one percent, Kṛṣṇa will help you ten percent. Again if you work one percent, Kṛṣṇa will help you another ten percent. But the cent percent credit you get, by the help of Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa gives you intelligence. Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam, buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam (BG 10.10). If you are engaged satatam, twenty-four hours, without any other engagement, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66),giving up all other nonsense business… Sarva-dharmān. Simply if you are engaged in Kṛṣṇa’s business, prīti-pūrvakam, with love. Not as hackneyed: ‘Ah, here is a duty, chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa. All right, Harekṛṣṇaharekṛṣṇaharekṛṣṇa…” (chants very quickly and indistinctly) Not like that. With prīti, with love. Chant every name, ‘Hare Kṛṣṇa,’ and hear. Here is Kṛṣṇa; here is Rādhārāṇī. That kind of chanting, quality. Not ‘Harekṛṣṇahare kṛṣṇakṛṣṇakṛṣṇaharehare…’ Not like that. Not like that. Prīti.

Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti (BG 10.10). That prīti is required. That is the essential quality. Patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati (BG 9.26). Real thing is bhakti. Kṛṣṇa is not hungry, that you will give Him some good food and He will eat it, never mind in which way you can give. ‘Oh, here is purī, halavā. Kṛṣṇa must eat.’ Kṛṣṇa is not hungry for your purī, halavā. But if there is bhakti, if there is love, then He eats. Tad aham aśnāmi: ‘Then I eat, if there is bhakti, love.’‘Kṛṣṇa, what can I do for You? I am so teeny, You are so great. Still, I have tried to do something. If You kindly eat.’ This is mantra. Real mantra is that; not so many formalities of mantra. Kṛṣṇa does not say, ‘One who offers Me with the Vedic mantras…’ Never says. Kṛṣṇa says bhaktyā, ‘with devotion.’

So others may criticize you, that ‘These American Vaiṣṇavas, they do not know how to do this, how to do that.’ Let them criticize. But Kṛṣṇa says bhaktyā. You remain perfect devotee. Then your life is perfect. Kṛṣṇa does not say that the Indian devotee who discriminates between touchable and untouchable and big, big paṇḍitas or deva-gosvāmī, not dāsa-gosvāmī… Kṛṣṇa does not discriminate like that. Kṛṣṇa says bhaktyā, yo me bhaktyā prayacchati. Kṛṣṇa wants to see how much sincere devotee you have become. That is His business.”

Association-let us take a close look at what this means

                                                                   Association

We hear this word tossed around like a banana in the fire sacrifice. But what does it really mean? How by association with other good and bad souls are we affected both materially and spiritually? Let us look at this point more closely.

(Note–What happens to great souls who by bad association (and Providence) become temporarily touched by sinful reaction? Vidura felt he was such a person due to his constant association with the Kuru family headed by Dhrtarastra and his sinful sons.)

 

Purport SB 1.3.17…

Vidura was undoubtedly a highly elevated and pious soul, otherwise he would not have taken his birth in the Kaurava family.

To have high parentage, to possess wealth, to be highly learned and to have great personal beauty are all due to past pious acts. But such pious possessions are not sufficient for obtaining the grace of the Lord and being engaged in His transcendental loving service. Vidura considered himself less pious, and therefore he decided to travel to all the great places of pilgrimage in the world in order to achieve greater piety and advance nearer to the Lord. At that time, Lord Kṛṣṇa was personally present in the world, and Vidura could have at once approached Him directly, but he did not do so because he was not sufficiently freed from sin. One cannot be one hundred percent devoted to the Lord unless and until he is completely free from all effects of sin. Vidura was conscious that by the association of the diplomatic Dhṛtarāṣṭra and Duryodhana he had lost his piety and was therefore not fit to associate at once with the Lord. In Bhagavad-gītā (7.28) this is confirmed in the following verse:yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpaṁ…Persons who are sinful asuras like Kaṁsa and Jarāsandha cannot think of Lord Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Absolute Truth. Only those who are pure devotees, those who follow the regulative principles of religious life as prescribed in the scriptures, are able to engage themselves in karma-yoga and then jñāna-yoga and thereafter, by pure meditation, can understand pure consciousness. When God consciousness is developed, one can take advantage of the association of pure devotees. Syān mahat-sevayā viprāḥ puṇya-tīrtha-niṣevaṇāt: one is able to associate with the Lord even during the existence of this life.

(Note—What has happened to iskcon for the past 40 years-the bogus guru takeover, changing Srila Prabhupadas books, and so many going along with it, changing the entire way the Deities of the Lord are to be worshiped, physically kicking sincere devotees out who had given their lives to serving Srila Prabhupada, molesting guru kula children for years and covering it up, and last and in no way least, the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body in a final attempt to finally get rid of our Acarya and Founder. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Anybody who remains within that institution and supports and serves these people, is according to Srila Prabhupada in his purports and all the other previous Acaryas he quotes-unless they change it or leave- are daily becoming fit candidates for hellish life. And no sane person would ever associate for even a second, with such degraded, offensive and foolish people.)

Think this is too harsh or fanatic of a conclusion? Consider the words of our Srila Prabhupada and Srila Vyasadeva)

 

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3 kinds of creation which allows us conditioned souls to remain on the collective fruitive platform of generating endless karma

Hare Krsna–below we have two purports from the Second Canto Srimad Bhagavatam-the first one explains how  the three types of creation take place and who does them. The next purport explains how by fruitive actions, we foolishly  remain in this endless cycle of birth and death. Not a very pretty picture.

 

SB 2.10.46 purport… 

There are three different types of creation, called mahā-kalpa, vikalpa and kalpa. In the mahā-kalpa the Lord assumes the first puruṣa incarnation as Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu with all the potencies of the mahat-tattva and the sixteen principles of creative matter and instruments. The creative instruments are eleven, the ingredients are five, and all of them are products of mahat, or materialistic ego. These creations by the Lord in His feature of Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu are called mahā-kalpa. The creation of Brahmā and dispersion of the material ingredients are called vikalpa, and the creation by Brahmā in each day of his life is called kalpa. Therefore each day of Brahmā is called a kalpa, and there are thirty kalpas in terms of Brahmā’s days. This is also confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā (8.17) as follows:In the upper planetary system the duration of one complete day and night is equal to one complete year of this earth. This is accepted even by the modern scientist and attested by the astronauts. Similarly, in the region of still higher planetary systems the duration of day and night is still greater than in the heavenly planets. The four yugas are calculated in terms of the heavenly calendars and accordingly are twelve thousand years in terms of the heavenly planets. This is called a divya-yuga, and one thousand divya-yugas make one day of Brahmā. The creation during the day of Brahmā is called kalpa, and the creation of Brahmā is called vikalpa. When vikalpas are made possible by the breathing of Mahā-Viṣṇu, this is called a mahā-kalpa. There are regular and systematic cycles of these mahā-kalpas, vikalpas and kalpas.

Therefore the thirty kalpas of Brahmā are: (1) Śveta-kalpa, (2) Nīlalohita, (3) Vāmadeva, (4) Gāthāntara, (5) Raurava, (6) Prāṇa, (7) Bṛhat-kalpa, (8) Kandarpa, (9) Sadyotha, (10) Īśāna, (11) Dhyāna, (12) Sārasvata, (13) Udāna, (14) Garuḍa, (15) Kaurma, (16) Nārasiṁha, (17) Samādhi, (18) Āgneya, (19) Viṣṇuja, (20) Saura, (21) Soma-kalpa, (22) Bhāvana, (23) Supuma, (24) Vaikuṇṭha, (25) Arciṣa, (26) Valī-kalpa, (27) Vairāja, (28) Gaurī-kalpa, (29) Māheśvara, (30) Paitṛ-kalpa.

These are Brahmā’s days only, and he has to live months and years up to one hundred, so we can just imagine how many creations there are in kalpas only. Then again there are vikalpas, which are generated by the breathing of Mahā-Viṣṇu, as stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā (yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya jīvanti loma-vilajā jagadaṇḍa-nāthāḥ [Bs. 5.48]). The Brahmās live only during the breathing period of Mahā-Viṣṇu. So the exhaling and inhaling of Viṣṇu are mahā-kalpas, and all these are due to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for no one else is the master of all creations.

 

(Note-In other words, these cycles of creation and annihilation go on perpetually in this material world. So Srila Prabhupada is kindly pointing out that us conditioned souls should take these facts from the Vedas and understand that anything we do here  without the authority  or satisfaction of Lord Visnu, is only-temporary at best. )

 

Now lest us look at the solution to this creation-annihilation/continuous fruitive activities business from the devotees perspective.

 

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Krsna, what can I do for you?? This is mantra, real mantra–SP

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Mayapur, June 17, 1973)

 

 

Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is always ready to help us, provided we are also ready to cooperate with Him. If we cooperate with Him, what Kṛṣṇa desires, if we want to do little, immediately Kṛṣṇa will help you. If you work one percent, Kṛṣṇa will help you ten percent. Again if you work one percent, Kṛṣṇa will help you another ten percent. But the cent percent credit you get, by the help of Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa gives you intelligence. Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam, buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam (BG 10.10). If you are engaged satatam, twenty-four hours, without any other engagement, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66), giving up all other nonsense business… Sarva-dharmān.Simply if you are engaged in Kṛṣṇa’s business, prīti-pūrvakam, with love. Not as hackneyed: ‘Ah, here is a duty, chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa. All right, Harekṛṣṇaharekṛṣṇaharekṛṣṇa…” (chants very quickly and indistinctly) Not like that. With prīti, with love. Chant every name, ‘Hare Kṛṣṇa,’ and hear. Here is Kṛṣṇa; here is Rādhārāṇī. That kind of chanting, quality. Not ‘Harekṛṣṇahare kṛṣṇakṛṣṇakṛṣṇaharehare…’ Not like that. Not like that. Prīti.

Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti (BG 10.10). That prīti is required. That is the essential quality. Patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati (BG 9.26). Real thing is bhakti. Kṛṣṇa is not hungry, that you will give Him some good food and He will eat it, never mind in which way you can give. ‘Oh, here is purī, halavā. Kṛṣṇa must eat.’ Kṛṣṇa is not hungry for your purī, halavā. But if there is bhakti, if there is love, then He eats. Tad aham aśnāmi: ‘Then I eat, if there is bhakti, love.’ ‘Kṛṣṇa, what can I do for You? I am so teeny, You are so great. Still, I have tried to do something. If You kindly eat.’ This is mantra. Real mantra is that; not so many formalities of mantra. Kṛṣṇa does not say, ‘One who offers Me with the Vedic mantras…’ Never says. Kṛṣṇa says bhaktyā, ‘with devotion.’

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Prabhupada put us directly into Caitanya lila, he was so powerful–Sukadeva dasa

The day that we inaugurated the temple, it was Bhaktisiddhanta’s Disappearance. That day Prabhupada said, “I’m not going to sit on the vyasasan.”

He took Bhaktisiddhanta’s picture and put it on the vyasasan where he would normally sit. So we spent most of the day cooking and spending the day with Prabhupada.

And towards the end of the day we were reading the prayers that Prabhupada offered to his spiritual master, that famous Vyasa Puja offering.

Tamal Krishna started reading it and he started crying, and so then he gave it to Brahmananda.

And then Brahmananda started reading it and he started crying, he gave it to Gargamuni.

Then Gargamuni started reading it, he started crying.

So in this way it was handed down to different devotees, and eventually by Krishna’s grace we got through the reading.

Then after that Prabhupada had a kirtan, and Prabhupada was dancing with the devotees just like Lord Caitanya surrounded by His associates.

Prabhupada held up his hands and started dancing from side to side. I remember looking around and everybody was up dancing and chanting and crying uncontrollably.

Prabhupada put us directly into Caitanya lila, he was so powerful. You had a direct experience of Caitanya lila by his potency.

Sukadev das

As long as we think of acquiring or becoming something, there is no happiness-SP

As long as we think of acquiring or becoming something, there is no happiness

Dec 22 1976 Poona

So karmī, jñānī, yogi, and bhakta. So out of these four classes of men, the three classes means karmī, jñānī and yogi, they are restless. Because they actually did not find out what is the solution. One after another, there are different classes, there are classification. One is better than the other. That is another thing. But none of them… They are still misled. A karmī, he is thinking that “I am poor man. If I become rich man, I will be happy.” He is thinking in that way. Jñānī is thinking that “Poor and rich doesn’t matter. I am Brahman. I am spirit soul. If I merge into the Supreme Brahman I will be happy.” Yogi is thinking that “The Absolute is present everywhere in His personal feature. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe arjuna tiṣṭhati [Bg. 18.61]. So if I become one with Him, I will be happy.” But still there is a demand, “If I become like this.” So so long he is not self-realized, he will try to become something and so long he’ll try to become something, then there will be restlessness. There cannot be happiness. And when he comes to the realization point that “Why I am trying to become something, I am this and this that is my position,” then he becomes happy. That is bhakti. Everyone is trying to become something. And bhakta knows “I am this.” There is no question of becoming. And this is my position. Very nice. Therefore Kṛṣṇa ultimately said that “This is the most confidential knowledge, Arjuna. I am teaching you so many things. There is no need of understanding so many things. The real thing is that I am the master, you are My servant. You surrender unto Me, that’s all. Then you’ll be happy.”

Indian man: Very bold step.

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