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Aug 5 1976 French farm-New Mayapura

Bhūgarbha: He doesn’t think he’ll be able to follow the life of the Vaiṣṇavas, because our life is too difficult.

Prabhupāda: That attitude will help him. That humbleness, that “I cannot follow,” that will help.

Bhūgarbha: He says he has a tendency more of a jñānī, and his training has been according to Śaṅkarite and also Buddhist lines. But still he appreciates very much bhakti, and he is very happy to meet the devotees, and at the same time he’s very depressed to meet all these intellectuals who know so many things but cannot understand anything.

Prabhupāda: Without becoming jñānī, nobody can become bhakta. Without knowledge, if one has become bhakta, he’s sentimentalist. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, find out this verse. Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām [Bg. 18.54]. brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām

(French translation read) So without becoming fully in knowledge, nobody can become devotee.

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Below we have the definitive statements by Srila Prabhupada as to WHO if the real guru.

Some will accept and understand this and many will never get it

The bona fide spiritual master must be able to see Krsna and talk with Him-face to face. This is not some figurative idea but the actual reality.

Srila Prabhupada….”Yes. A spiritual master must have seen Kṛṣṇa.Without seeing, he cannot be spiritual master.But how Kṛṣṇa can be seen? Kṛṣṇa can be seen by love. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena [Bs. 5.38]. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti. Just like if you are in love with somebody, you can see him constantly—he is always on your eyes, anyone you love—so similarly, Kṛṣṇa also can be seen by development of love. Otherwise how we can see Kṛṣṇa? He is so great, unlimited. Your eyes, your senses, are all limited. You cannot see the unlimited by your limited sense perception. But you can see… Not you can see, but svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ.When you are developed in the sense of love of Godhead, then He reveals unto you. Therefore you can see. “

Srila prabhupada’s Lecture : Bhagavad-gita 4.34-39 — Los Angeles, January 12, 1969

Srila Prabhupada…”So this adhokṣajam, Kṛṣṇa, we have to worship. Adhokṣaja. So we cannot see if it is beyond our sense perception. How we can worship Him?Therefore you have to take shelter of the spiritual master who has seen Him.“Srila Prabhupada’s Lecture : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.25 — Los Angeles, August 28, 1972

Srila Prabhupada…”When the devotee sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead by his meditation, orwhen he sees the Lord personally, face to face, he becomes aware of everything within this universe.Indeed, nothing is unknown to him.Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a devotee who has seen the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”

The Demigods and Demons Declare a Truce : SB 8.6.9 : Srila Prabhupada’s PURPORT :

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July 14 1976 interview with reporter-guru must see God face to face-not figuratively

Interviewer: But in the same way that Kṛṣṇa says He’ll provide for your needs you still must work to achieve whatever Kṛṣṇa is giving you.

Prabhupāda: Yes. You work for Kṛṣṇa. You have to work to get your necessities.

Interviewer: In the same way I’m curious with respect to the way Kṛṣṇa communicates with you, whether it’s in a similar kind of way that He gives you your necessities.

Bali-mardana: In other words, when you decide that someone is to be in charge of a particular temple does Kṛṣṇa tell you that this person should be in charge.

Interviewer: Or do you by judging him say this person is qualified.

Prabhupāda:Yes, because a devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and He gives order.

Interviewer:It’s a more direct communication.

Prabhupāda:Yes. And He gives order.

Rāmeśvara:Because intelligence, our philosophy is that intelligence comes from Kṛṣṇa. So if I have some…

Interviewer: And your philosophy is that your daily necessities come from Kṛṣṇa as well.

Rāmeśvara:Yes, try to understand. Suppose my intelligence sees that this person is qualified, that means Kṛṣṇa has told me.

Prabhupāda:No, not necessarily, Kṛṣṇa will tell directly. A devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa tells him, “Do like this.” Not figuratively.

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Below we have the definitive statements by Srila Prabhupada as to WHO if the real guru.

Some will accept and understand this and many will never get it

The bona fide spiritual master must be able to see Krsna and talk with Him-face to face. This is not some figurative idea but the actual reality.

Srila Prabhupada….”Yes. A spiritual master must have seen Kṛṣṇa.Without seeing, he cannot be spiritual master.But how Kṛṣṇa can be seen? Kṛṣṇa can be seen by love. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena [Bs. 5.38]. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti. Just like if you are in love with somebody, you can see him constantly—he is always on your eyes, anyone you love—so similarly, Kṛṣṇa also can be seen by development of love. Otherwise how we can see Kṛṣṇa? He is so great, unlimited. Your eyes, your senses, are all limited. You cannot see the unlimited by your limited sense perception. But you can see… Not you can see, but svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ.When you are developed in the sense of love of Godhead, then He reveals unto you. Therefore you can see. “

Srila prabhupada’s Lecture : Bhagavad-gita 4.34-39 — Los Angeles, January 12, 1969

The Demigods and Demons Declare a Truce : SB 8.6.9 : Srila Prabhupada’s PURPORT :

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July 14 1976 interview with reporter-guru must see God face to face-not figuratively

Interviewer: But in the same way that Kṛṣṇa says He’ll provide for your needs you still must work to achieve whatever Kṛṣṇa is giving you.

Prabhupāda: Yes. You work for Kṛṣṇa. You have to work to get your necessities.

Interviewer: In the same way I’m curious with respect to the way Kṛṣṇa communicates with you, whether it’s in a similar kind of way that He gives you your necessities.

Bali-mardana: In other words, when you decide that someone is to be in charge of a particular temple does Kṛṣṇa tell you that this person should be in charge.

Interviewer: Or do you by judging him say this person is qualified.

Prabhupāda:Yes, because a devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and He gives order.

Interviewer:It’s a more direct communication.

Prabhupāda:Yes. And He gives order.

Rāmeśvara:Because intelligence, our philosophy is that intelligence comes from Kṛṣṇa. So if I have some…

Interviewer: And your philosophy is that your daily necessities come from Kṛṣṇa as well.

Rāmeśvara:Yes, try to understand. Suppose my intelligence sees that this person is qualified, that means Kṛṣṇa has told me.

Prabhupāda:No, not necessarily, Kṛṣṇa will tell directly. A devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa tells him, “Do like this.” Not figuratively.

Interviewer:Does that apply then to other kinds of decisions and other kinds of activities as well?

Prabhupāda:Everything. Because a devotee does not do anything without consulting Kṛṣṇa.

Bali-mardana: But that applies to a very greatly elevated soul, that is not an ordinary person.

Prabhupāda:That is,therefore the minor devotees, they consultthe spiritual master. That is our process. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **.

Rāmeśvara:I see, I was trying to explain the minor devotees.

Interviewer: No, I was talking about…

Rāmeśvara: You’re talking about the topmost level.

Interviewer: Yes.

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Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading

first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )

Compiled by Yasoda nandana dasa

“WE MUST READ WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS. ABOVE IMAGE SHOWS SRILA PRABHUPADA READING THE 1972 SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM FIRST CANTO. NO MORE ARGUMENTS AFTER SEEING THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF TAKING PLEASURE IN READING THE FIRST EDITIONS.”

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EXPOSING THE BOOK CHANGES: EXTENSIVE LIST OF 50,000+

MAJOR CHANGES IN SRILA PRABHUPADA’S ORIGINAL BOOKS

Compiled by yasoda nandana dasa

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What is the value of a Guru if he can’t deliver you from Death? by kapindramaharaj

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1. The 10 volume set edition is not an original first edition publication. It has over 21000 changes from the first original editions especially in the first four cantos of Srimad Bhgavatam.

2. Srila Prabhupada. When he heard in the Rascal Editor conversation on June 22. 1977. That his books were being revised in his manifested presence, was not pleased and wanted all of these changes stopped.

3 . Then he clearly stated that “the next printing again should be the original way. “

4. Further in the same conversation Srila Prabhupada stated “they cannot change anything,”

Thus implies that the editors. Publishers. Gbcs. Bbt trustees cannot and should not change anything and should revert back any of the unauthorized changes made during Srila Prabhupada’s presence back to the original editions.

Minor mistakes in sanskrit word translations can be corrected

5. These mandates by Srila Prabhupada imply that he rescinded his alleged approval of the corrections made by the editor in September of 1976.

6. Original way means first editions with appropriate future indexes. Glossaries. List of verses. Sanskrit charts.

7. Srila Prabhupāda’s instructions in June of 1977 superseded any previous instructions given in Z2976.

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Hare Krsna-below we shall find some errors in Jitaratis research and thinking as shown in what he has written. over what constitutes the “original books” or not And also what should be printed.
And this short analyses does not even get into the justification over Jayadvaits then and continual “editing” practices

damaghosa das

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From Jitarati to Yashodanandana:

Dear Yashodanandana Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Below is your quote from an article you wrote in August 2018. Your request for proof of authorisation for changes in the 76 SB prompted me to go take a closer look at this article.

I am writing only to you and I am not copying anyone nor will I ever copy anyone as I have discovered that the mistake you have made here is quite embarrassing for you. I am hoping that you will be honest enough to admit your mistake.

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Complete exposure of lies and personal attacks
spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu

Hare Krishna. All glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
This article exposes the lies spread by some 10 volume promoters who could not digest the truth about the 21000+ changes in all 4 cantos. They posted a couple of articles on prabhupadanugas.eu to promote their changed version and spread false propaganda on its originality.
Remember dear devotees, whenever you are selling that 10 volume set, you are effectively distributing the books which have 21000+ changes (Think of Srila Prabhupada personally watching you selling the books. Will he be satisfied completely?.) You are not even ready to accept that those books have so many deletions, etc but are intentionally putting a blind eye to those changes and believing your own lies on thinking that this is original.
These 2 articles on the website (https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=53421, https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=53427), have denied to look at what kind of damage has been done to the Srimad-Bhagavatam with so many deletions, introduction of grammatical errors,etc.
They have focused more on personal attacks and image tampering instead of even taking some time to read the articles on changes carefully and analyzing the changes on their own.
Some misinterpretations of those who still support the 10 volume SB will be exposed here:A brief description of the lies will be given first and a complete explanation will be given below.
Please also read this article before going further: https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33088 (The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad-Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many of important lines, pages and verses.)

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.Without becoming jñānī, nobody can become bhakta. Without knowledge, if one has become bhakta, he’s sentimentalist.–SP

Without seeing (Krsna) he cannot be spiritual master-SP

Four definitive statements by SP as to who is the real guru-He must see God-Krsna

Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )

Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre 1978)

EXPOSING THE BOOK CHANGES: EXTENSIVE LIST OF 50,000+ MAJOR CHANGES IN SRILA PRABHUPADA’S ORIGINAL BOOKS

What is the value of a Guru if he can’t deliver you from Death?

Summary of issues with Jitaratis’ red 10 volume Srimad-Bhagavatam

the ongoing debate over which is the real “original books”

Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu