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April 1 1974 Bombay-Srila Prabhupada covers a lot of important topics just in this one morning walk conversation. To think of God or Krsna at time of death is not so simple a thing. …the sraddha ceremony,and karma yoga, what is it?

.Prabhupāda: So at the time of death, when everything is disordered, nothing is in order, unless one is very strongly practiced, how he can remember?

Dr. Patel: My father spoke, “Oṁ,” and he stopped breathing and…

Prabhupāda: That’s nice. Oṁ, oṁ ity eka… That is…

Dr. Patel: Then he stopped breathing.

Prabhupāda: That means he practiced. Therefore, either you practice Oṁ or Hare Kṛṣṇa, that is all right.

Dr. Patel: Whatever we do of our whole, all our whole, all day of life, it comes at the end. That is why you must continue to do for the life.

Prabhupāda: Twenty-four hours. Kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ [Cc. Ādi 17.31]. Always Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa… In this way practicing, if somebody is fortunate enough, he can remember.

Dr. Patel: Eṣā brāhmī sthitiḥ pārtha na… Sthitvā samanta-kāle ‘pi brahma-nirvāṇam ṛcchati.

Prabhupāda: So…

Dr. Patel: Therefore at the last moment you… But you can’t get that last moment in this position because you have, whole life, you have…

Prabhupāda: Yes, you have spoiled your life simply in material activities. How you can remember?

Dr. Patel: But even if you are doing material activities by your body, and by your mental activities you are bhaja kṛṣṇa…

Prabhupāda: But you are under the body… Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni [Bg. 3.27]. Body and mind is working… Unless you practice to be above body and mind… That is bhakti-yoga. Māṁ cāvyabhicāriṇi-bhakti-yoga…, sa guṇān samatītya. You cannot expect that you go on doing all these material activities and at the time of death you’ll remember Kṛṣṇa. That is not possible.

Dr. Patel: That can’t be done.

Prabhupāda: That is not possible.

Chandobhai: Should be a real concentrated difference

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Chandobhai: When you do the work, you should be a real concentration.

Prabhupāda: That is not possible.

Chandobhai: Therefore there is no… Because your attachment is more to the…

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Chandobhai: …reserves of that…

Prabhupāda: Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhā man-mayā… [Bg. 4.10].

Chandobhai: Mad-bhaktaḥ.

Prabhupāda: Man-mayā mad-aśritāḥ. Unless he takes shelter of Kṛṣṇa, these things are not possible. Simply by talking it is not possible. There must be practice.

Chandobhai: Acaropanam.(?)

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Dr. Patel: (Sanskrit)

Chandobhai: Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaram bhāvaṁ tyajanty ante… [break]

Prabhupāda: There is a risk. Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi. If you are thinking of dog, then you become a dog.

Dr. Patel: Just as Bhārata did it.

Prabhupāda: Yes. yes, that is example. Even Bhārata Mahārāja, such a great personality, simply due to little affection to a cub of deer, he became a deer. So these people are attached to so many things. So how much risk is there at the time of death they do not understand. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, mām ekam.

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Srila Prabhupada speaks – “If I have written one book, my words are my meaning.
Why you should give meaning? I shall kick on your face.”
Prabhupāda: Majority or minority, it doesn’t matter. But why you should take Bhagavad-gītā to establish your rascal theories? That means you are cheating.

Hare Krishna, here are a few quotes from Srila Prabhupada’s instructions that clearly explain the following:a.) What is speculation?b.) How is the Gita misinterpreted?c.) How should the Gita be preached?d.) Mission of Caitanya Mahaprabhue.) Criticism of making compromise in philosophy for personal gainf.) Offense of disobedience to the order of Gurug.) Srila Prabhupada’s explanation to why he presented the Bhagavad Gita “As It Is”h.) Importance of reading the Gita “As It Is” with the guidance of a bona fide Gurui.) Getting association with Krsna by reading Bhagavad Gita
1.Paramahaṁsa: My question is: A pure devotee, when he comments Bhagavad-gītā, someone who never sees him physically, but he just comes in contact with his commentary, explanation, is this the same thing?
Prabhupāda: Yes. You can associate with Kṛṣṇa by reading Bhagavad-gītā. And these saintly persons, they have given their explanations, comments. So where is the difficulty? Everyone is helping you.[Morning Walk — June 11, 1974, Paris]——————————2.

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Dear Learned Readers,

The Conclusion of allegations about the LIES and the CHEATING in Printing of the adulterated – changed books (the Red Set of 10 SB. as Original ) promoted by Jiatarati das as discussed on this link ;

Yasodanandana helps Kali destroy the last leg of religion with his lies.

From the article on the above Link, we read the following responses from Jitarati Prabhu allegations raised against Yasodanandana Prabhu ;

Jitarati’s response:

“If they got an approval” ? These are the words of a demon, with no faith in Srila Prabhupada. They want to deny the approval, which they actually do below.

Yasoda you quoted this undeniable confirmation of Prabhupada: “in a letter dated September 7, 1976, “Concerning the editing of Jayadvaita Prabhu, whatever he does is approved by me. I have confidence in him.”

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By Isana dasa

Those who are thoroughly honest can only mean those who are actually seeking to know the truth, and are not reading for some other purpose. Those who appreciate the necessity. Just like when there is fire in the house, those who live there, even if they cannot speak the language of the neighbor, but they need some help to put out the fire, they will make themselves understood. Language will not be a barrier. In the same way, one who actually wants to make a solution to the problem of repeated birth and death, such a person will not protest the message of solution on the basis of imperfect language, but will accept with gratitude. Srila Prabhupada therefore says that presentation in so-called perfect language is not required, but that apparently imperfect linguistic presentation will be appreciated by those who are after the truth, the real solution. Those who are changing the books disagree (surely they have read these passages), and they want to make the books acceptable by those who are not of this honest category, acceptable by those who read with some ulterior motive. That the book changers want the books to be accepted by those who will read with ulterior motive means that the changers also have ulterior motive of gaining acceptance of dishonest rascals more than they wish to satisfy of the orders of the acharya. And this is their dishonesty in claiming that they are doing it in service. Therefore both the book changers, and those who they are changing the books for, are simply the thoroughly dishonest collection of the cheaters and the cheated.

April 10 1974 Bombay Prabhupāda: Anna-vastra, anna-vastra-dhana. Charity means to give in charity anna and vastra and cows. [break] …give in charity some paper, one hundred rupees. (laughs) Another cheating. And he is also satisfied, “One hundred rupees.” What is this one hundred? It is a paper, a piece of paper. [break] …earned, black market, white market. Because when one does business, he has to do it, but it should be purified. I have seen the Marwaris, they do that. Although when earning money, they don’t care, they do anything, but they give in charity. [break] …purify the body by taking bath, similarly, the wealth is purified by the charity process, giving it to the brāhmaṇas and Vaiṣṇavas. Just like Rūpa Gosvāmī. He accumulated much wealth. He brought in a big boat, all gold coins. So… So he distributed fifty percent to the brāhmaṇa and Vaiṣṇava and twenty-five percent he gave to the relatives, and twenty-five percent he kept for his personal emergency. This is example shown by Rūpa Gosvāmī. [break] Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyam vaiśya-karma svabhāva-jam [Bg. 18.44]. So where is that vaiśya, giving protection to the cows? Although they were village men, they were very rich. That is the old Vedic civilization. Now you go to the village—all poor. The cows are skinny, people have no home, no nice cloth. This is the position. And we are still advanced, advanced. They are proud of “advanced.” And here is the… Just hear the description of the village, with cows only. So how much fallen we have become, we can just imagine.

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Vidura Mahatma Das wrote:

Dear respected prabhus.

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Regarding the reprint of SB that has come under discussion again recently, I would like to make one point.

Jitarati said:

Jitarati: First of all the translation for Sadhu is not a mistake. I have explained that all before so will not repeat it again here. It is exactly the same in the 76, 72 and Delhi version. The real point here is that you seem to completely misunderstand what book is being read and therefore have come to a wrong conclusion. The version that was being read on June 22/77 was not the 76 version but the 72 version.

Vidura M D: Even with the 1972 edition being read during that conversation, and even with the change “of the sages” being present in the 1972 edition and fixed in the 1976 edition, this does not change the fact that the point and main issue being raised in the Rascal Editors conversation became that changes were being made to newer printed editions of books, which is why Srila Prabhupada ordered in that conversation that the next printing should be again to the original way. This order by Srila Prabhupada was not necessarily based on the initial mistake found in the 1972 edition “of the sages”. To assume this is logically incorrect. Srila Prabhupada’s order at the end of that conversation cannot be nullified on the grounds that the initial mistake brought up belonged to the 1972 edition. This is precisely what I believe Jitarati prabhu is trying to do but it is a mistake. We must look at the flow of context of that conversation leading up to Srila Prabhupada’s order, and that context is of newer edition reprints of books after the 1972 edition.

I am also submitting an article that I wrote on July 7, 2018 when this same debate came up with Purujit. Please find article attached herein.

Wishing you both a happy Krishna conscious new year,

Your servant,

Vidura Mahatma dasa

Amar Puri says:24. December 2021 at 6:22 pm

Respected Jitarati Prabhu,

Sadar Pranam. AGTSP.

First of all, allow me to clarify that we are on the same pace of understanding and in the agreement that the Hand written note of Srila Prabhupada on the letter of Shri Radhavallabha das Prabhu to Srila Prabhupada dt. August 31, 1976, not dated Sept.07,1976 which reads ; ” whatever he has done is alright I have faith in him “.

In Srila Prabhupada’s response:Letter to: Radhavallabha
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Vrindaban
7 September, 197676-09-07
Los AngelesMy Dear Radhavallabha das,Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letters dated August 25 and 31 and have noted the contents.Concerning the editing of Jayadvaita Prabhu, whatever he does is approved by me. I have confidence in him. Your changes which I have seen of the sanskrit synonyms is also approved by me. Tanmayataya refers to the fact that the trees and the father were absorbed in the same feelings……..

Both these letters can be read here at this link ;

https://prabhupadanugasworldwide.org/important-points-and-questions-on-21000-changes-in-srimad-bhagavatam-first-four-cantos/

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Mahesh Raja says: 27. December 2021 at 6:30 am

Jitarati Prabhu, can you comment on this:

https://krishnastore.co.uk/srimad-bhagavatam-set-original-first-edition-30-volume-h-krishna-502.html

Versus this:

List of articles published on unauthorized red 10 volume SB changes

1. Exposing the offensive changes in the so-called original Srimad Bhagavatam: The Red “not-original” Srimad Bhagavatam has so many pages,lines and verses cut off from the second and fourth cantos
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33156

2. Important points and unresolved questions on 21000+ changes in Srimad Bhagavatam (first four cantos) [They supporters could not answer a single question correctly, instead resorted to ill-name calling and personal attacks on their websites]
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33107

3. The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many important lines, pages and verses.
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33088

4. Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33247

5. Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre 1978)
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33244

6. Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33197

7. Detecting Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/detecting.html

This 10 Volume set cannot be called the original set as it has the same changes that are found in the links below(it is not the 1972 print). Also Srila Prabhupada had never instructed to take out the front covers of the books and merge them as 10 cantos.

Google drive with Srila Prabhupada’s first edition unrevised, non adulterated, original books.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nHm72gVwAeei95WDkSLf2aw5x-jRXDoF?usp=sharing
Another folder for Srimad Bhagavatam 1972 on-wards first edition original books:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1am9rKGII3wMrmkyxHp85hfjMjgnWGzT9?export?format=pdf

Note: To download/print the files containing changes: Click on the above link. Then click File -> Export/Print -> Side-by-Side view respectively.

Canto 1: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/UTXTvIzsNrmu
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/cupjyEEYuyGn
Chapters 9-12: https://draftable.com/compare/yllqQqNZSlgP
Chapters 13-16: https://draftable.com/compare/VCGEgShIgbNU
Chapters 17-19: https://draftable.com/compare/pMtvfQINaQtE

Canto 2: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/wwucNCVgfccF
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/iimgbZjLWGTk
Chapters 9-10: https://draftable.com/compare/VaeVzKEAplpN

Canto 3: (Over 4000 changes)
Chapters 1-5: https://draftable.com/compare/WBtcORNEGUtA
Chapters 6-11: https://draftable.com/compare/EZtdJyOoixCD
Chapters 12-16: https://draftable.com/compare/WMdbAnBHPWcF
Chapters 17-22: https://draftable.com/compare/PWktcoYEdibW
Chapters 23-26: https://draftable.com/compare/zTHMikJhqgiF
Chapters 27-31: https://draftable.com/compare/HIsgZlxBsjPM
Chapters 32-33: https://draftable.com/compare/MFPehjhLQCun

Canto 4: (Over 5000 changes)
Chapters 1-6: https://draftable.com/compare/ushTtFMkmfIq
Chapters 7-10: https://draftable.com/compare/AkqAwNZEppIn
Chapters 11-16: https://draftable.com/compare/MQvlEISQSJVR
Chapters 17-21: https://draftable.com/compare/OjFXdGtBAdNz
Chapters 22-23: https://draftable.com/compare/dEfZIREardwX
Chapters 24-26: https://draftable.com/compare/NfFVFBiJXaSG
Chapters 27-29: https://draftable.com/compare/QzYaMiIksWiK
Chapters 30-31: https://draftable.com/compare/uNPTJpGUBUdi

2. Important points and unresolved questions on 21000+ changes in Srimad Bhagavatam (first four cantos) [Their supporters could not answer a single question correctly, instead resorted to ill-name calling and personal attacks on their websites]:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33107

3. The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many important lines, pages and verses:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33088

4. Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS):
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33247

5. Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre-1978):
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33244

6. Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33197

7. Detecting Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/detecting.html

This 10 Volume set cannot be called the original set as it has the same changes that are found in the links below (it is not the 1972 print). Also Srila Prabhupada had never instructed to take out the front covers of the books and merge them as 10 cantos.

Canto 1: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/UTXTvIzsNrmu
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/cupjyEEYuyGn
Chapters 9-12: https://draftable.com/compare/yllqQqNZSlgP
Chapters 13-16: https://draftable.com/compare/VCGEgShIgbNU
Chapters 17-19: https://draftable.com/compare/pMtvfQINaQtE

Canto 2: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/wwucNCVgfccF
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/iimgbZjLWGTk
Chapters 9-10: https://draftable.com/compare/VaeVzKEAplpN

Canto 3: (Over 4000 changes)
Chapters 1-5: https://draftable.com/compare/WBtcORNEGUtA
Chapters 6-11: https://draftable.com/compare/EZtdJyOoixCD
Chapters 12-16: https://draftable.com/compare/WMdbAnBHPWcF
Chapters 17-22: https://draftable.com/compare/PWktcoYEdibW
Chapters 23-26: https://draftable.com/compare/zTHMikJhqgiF
Chapters 27-31: https://draftable.com/compare/HIsgZlxBsjPM
Chapters 32-33: https://draftable.com/compare/MFPehjhLQCun

Google drive with Srila Prabhupada’s first edition unrevised, non adulterated, original books.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nHm72gVwAeei95WDkSLf2aw5x-jRXDoF?usp=sharing

April 22 1974 Hyderabad conversations/mock debate with Srila Prabhupada

“That is the point. If you love God, then why you disobey His order?”

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Prabhupāda: …principles? What we should inform to the people in general?

Pañcadraviḍa: I try to remember that Lord Caitanya, He informed that the purpose of all Vedic literatures is to acquaint people with their relationship which they have forgotten with God, to teach them how to engage themself in that relationship and to understand that the goal is to come to pure love of God…..

Prabhupāda: No, they will say that “We have not forgotten God. We go to church regularly.” And the Mohammedans will say that “We go to mosque. So why we have forgotten God?”

Pañcadraviḍa: Going to church or mosque… When we are speaking to the people, we don’t discourage that they change their religion or anything.

Prabhupāda: No. You, your charge is that they have forgotten God. They will answer that “We have not forgotten God. We are going to church, we are going to our mosque. Why we have forgotten God?”

Pañcadraviḍa: Because they are not serving Him… [break] …relationship. They are not actively serving Him. They are engaging themselves… We see practically that some people say they are theists…

Prabhupāda: Then what is the meaning of service?

Pañcadraviḍa: Service means a relationship of serving out of love. So people are simply serving their stomach or…

Prabhupāda: “So if I haven’t got love, then why I am coming to church?“

Satsvarūpa: Well, we’re educating them what is God. They go to church, but they don’t know. “What is your idea of God?” We ask them.

Prabhupāda: “Whatever it may be, when I offer my prayers, I remember there is some God. I may not have clear idea. I have got my own conception of God.” So what is the answer?

Satsvarūpa: Well, there are symptoms if you… We don’t discourage, as Pañcadraviḍa Mahārāja says, but if you are following God, the best religion is that which develops love of God.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is answered. “If I haven’t got love for God, then why I am coming to church?”

Pañcadraviḍa: If you have love for God, why you are coming to church?

Prabhupāda: No. “Because I have got love for God, therefore I am coming to church. At that time I could have earned some money.“

Pañcadraviḍa: But we’re also teaching that this love, love is not just based on sentimentality. Love is also practical. Just like in this world, when there is relationship between man and woman, there is a practical exchange of love. It is not simply that love is only based on words. Also one is based on actions. We can judge how much a man is developing love by what his activities are.

Prabhupāda: “So what you have found in me that you have concluded that I have no love for God. What you have seen in me?”

Pañcadraviḍa: I have not concluded that… When I speak with a person, I do not say, “I have concluded that you have no love of God.”

Prabhupāda: “You say. That you have charged, but on what account you say like that? What I have done?”

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Hare Krishna Society

Will I be able to think of Krsna at the time of my death? SP answers

Srila Prabhupada speaks – “If I have written one book, my words are my meaning. Why you should give meaning? I shall kick on your face.”

The Conclusion of alligations about the LIES and THE CHEATINGS in Printing of the adulterated – changed books (the Red Set of 10 SB.) promoted by Jiatarati das

Will be accepted by those who are thoroughly honest

Wealth, in Vedic time was not paper money-SP

Rascal Editors Conversation – The Context of the Order Is NEWER EDITION REPRINTS

Amar Puri Prabhu’s excellent comment on exposing the 10 volume SB

Lets see if this is printed—– and answered

List of articles published on unauthorized red 10 volume SB changes

“That is the point. If you love God, then why you disobey His order?”-SP