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Prabhupada: Business  means if you have got extra grains or extra

foodstuff, you can  sell where there is necessity, there is want. That

is business. We  are not going to open mills and factories and… No.

We are not going  to do that. That is sudra business. The real business

is that you  produce enough food grains, as much as possible, and you

eat and  distribute. That’s all. This is business. He does not require

any so high  technical education. Anyone can till the ground and grow

food. Is it  difficult? This is the business. The first thing is that

everyone, man and  animal, especially the cows, they must be properly

fed so become very  stout and strong. Cows will supply milk, and man

will work hard,  without being suffered by dysentery. He must work

hard. Any capacity.  Work as a teacher or work as a ksatriya, work as a

ploughman. Or work  as general assistant. He must work. Everyone should

be employed. And his  employment will be provided from any of these

groups, according to  his capacity. Either as a brahmana, or as a

ksatriya, or as a  vaisya, or as a sudra.

750514mw.per                 Conversations                Amogha:  He was saying that your solution was too simple. He said that people will  not accept it because it is too simple. Prabhupada: That is his  ignorance. They will say it is primitive.

That is the only  solution. According to the Vedic system, you cannot use anything  which you cannot produce. Suppose this we are  using, but according the Vedic system we should not use it because I  cannot produce it. Then the whole solution is there.  Nobody will manufacture this because there will be no customer. If I refuse  this use of this machine, thinking that “I cannot produce it; I should not  use it,” then where is the customer? The so-called industry will  automatically stop, and he has to go to the village  outlying.

770618rc.vrn                                              Upendra: The reason the original faith was placed in the scientists was  because radio, airplanes, tape recorders have been manufactured, and people  are impressed by these originally. Prabhupada: So what is the benefit?  Without radio, people were dying, or with radio they are not  living? Upendra: They say they are living more  comfortably. Prabhupada: Nonsense  comfortably… They have changed the season? Is it comfortable?  We have to take this cooling machine. What is the practical benefit? You  can say that it is comfortable. That’s all right. But that does not mean that  you have moved the uncomfortable situation. You are struggling against.  That much you can take credit. Real benefit is not  there. That is stated in the  Bhagavad-gita. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. Real unhappiness is this, that you  are: “Why I am struggling? I don’t want death.” Actually why I am taking  massage and so on, so on? So that I may not die. So where is the  scientists’ guarantee, “No, you’ll not die”? Has he any…? You’ll struggle  only. That’s all. The scientists cannot guarantee, “No, you’ll not  die.” That is real guarantee. “You’ll die  comfortably.” Hm? Die comfortably? Now  there is no appetite. Where is the scientist, assuring, “Take”? What  actual benefit they have done? They are giving some… Nothing

they have given. It is  simply bluff. Things without which  we could do, such things are there. There were no motorcars. There was  horse carriage and bullock carriage. Things were going on. Not that  without this horseless motorcar society would have been vanquished. No.  There are other alternatives. Rather, they were complicated. As soon  as you ride on a car, there is anxiety, especially in  your country, so many cars. When you ride on a car, full of  anxiety… At any moment there may be accident. It is not  comfortable. If you are full of anxiety. Aeroplane may be.  At any moment you can die. It is your time only. They’re going in good faith:  “I shall go there.” But before rising to the sky, finished, crash. So many  airplane has been… So where is  the comfort? As  soon as you get on the aeroplane, you are in full  anxiety that at any moment there may be crash. Is it not?  Then where is comfort? Real comfort is without anxiety. That  is real comfort.

Canakya Pandita has  given, real comfort means, arni akyavad(?):  “One who is not out of home and one who has no  debts, he is  happy.”

Nowadays  people are going out of home, and everyone is debtor to  the bank and so many… The economic machine is so made that  one is put always in debts for some so-called  comforts, and he’s full of anxiety. The whole  month he has to work to pay debts. (end)

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770108mw.bom                                              Indian man: Second thing is… Prabhupada: No, first of all you  understand this. Then bring second thing. That you have no duty.  Your only duty is to surrender to Krsna. Sarva-dharman  parityajya mam ekam. That is your only duty. But because you are under the  mental platform, you are creating duties, so but that also must be  finished after certain age. That is compulsory, that “You are very good,  responsible man. All right, do your duty up to this. No more duty. No more  duty.” So this “duty, no duty,” this is our  creation. We are under fully control of the nature. But we  have created our mental concoction: “This is duty. This is  good. This is bad.” That is our mano-dharma. Real dharma is  sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. This is  real dharma. And everything is mano-dharma, mental  creation. Therefore the Bhagavata in the beginning it is said  that dharmah projjhita-kaitavo ‘tra: “This false dharma is rejected.” These  are all false dharmas. Real dharma is to surrender to Krsna. But it takes  time. Therefore sat-sanga is required. But actually real dharma is to  become Krsna conscious and do everything… Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. What  Krsna wants, we must know it and do it. And this is real  dharma.

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Just like in the  prisonhouse you have to work. Eh? So they think  this working is civilization. This is avidya. So  therefore they have created more work. From early morning,  five o’clock, till ten o’clock, simply working. They do not  know that “This working is our punishment.” But because  ignorant, they think that “Working is life.” This is called  ignorance. He does not know, “This working is my punishment.  How to get out of this work?” No. To increase the work more, complicate,  that is civilization. This is called  avidya. Avidya-karma-samjnanya. Our tendency is not to work  but get things.Therefore he has asked that  question. Because he has to get cloth by working, therefore he  asking, “Why God has not created?” That  means tendency is not to work. That is spiritual  tendency. Everything, necessities, automatically available.  That is our… Therefore as soon as one man becomes rich, he does not work.  He gets his thing by working others. The tendency is there, to retire from  work. They go to a solitary place. They retire. They do not go out.  Weekly, at least, they want to stop worker, working. So why this tendency?  He does not want to die.  He does not want to work. This is spiritual. Why man should  work like… Therefore real civilization is that minimize  work.

Minimize work, save  time, and go back to your spiritual life. That  is civilization. And this is not civilization, to get the necessities  of life, sense gratification, and work like hog and dog. That  is condemned.

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