750412SB.HYD Lectures
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So they have increased the working capability. That is
civilization. Just like in the prisonhouse you have to work. Eh? So
they think this working is civilization. This is avidya. So therefore
they have created more work. From early morning, five o’clock, till
ten o’clock, simply working. They do not know that “This working is
our punishment.” But because ignorant, they think that “Working is
life.” This is called ignorance. He does not know, “This working is my
punishment. How to get out of this work?” No. To increase the work
more, complicate, that is civilization. This is called avidya.
Avidya-karma-samjnanya. Our tendency is not to work but get things.
Therefore he has asked that question. Because he has to get cloth by
working, therefore he asking, “Why God has not created?” That means
tendency is not to work. That is spiritual tendency. Everything,
necessities, automatically available. That is our… Therefore as soon
as one man becomes rich, he does not work. He gets his thing by
working others. The tendency is there, to retire from work. They go to
a solitary place. They retire. They do not go out. Weekly, at least,
they want to stop worker, working. So why this tendency? He does not
want to die. He does not want to work. This is spiritual. Why man
should work like… Therefore real civilization is that minimize work.
Minimize work, save time, and go back to your spiritual life. That is
civilization.
And this is not civilization, to get the necessities of
life, sense gratification, and work like hog and dog. That is
condemned. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate
vid-bhujam ye. This human life is not meant for working so hard for
sense gratification which are done by the dogs and hogs. Human life is
meant: tapo divyam putraka yena sattvam suddhyed. Human life is for
tapasya. Why tapasya? Yena sattvam suddhyed: their existence will be
purified. Then you will get unlimited pleasure. Yato brahma-saukhyam
anantam. We are seeking after unlimited pleasure. So that is not
possible in this material life. And we are thinking, “By working very
hard, like hogs and dogs, we will get happiness.” This is… The dogs
and hogs, they work day and night for searching out where is stool,
and as soon as he gets stool, he becomes very strong and stout. Then
sex. Never mind, the mother, sister, daughter. This is hog life.
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not that a brahmana should become very busy whole day and night for
getting food. So sastra says, “There is no use of becoming busy for
your food. Food is there already.” Food is already there. He’ll get
his food. That is arrangement by God. But they are busy fool. They do
not understand the God’s arrangement. Only for food they are busy
whole day and night like cats and dogs.
Now this land is there. You can… Everyone can grow food if he works
for two months. Everyone can grow his whole year’s foodstuff. There is so much land. But no,
they’ll not grow food. They will grow hammer, manufacturing it. You
see? Tire tube, then atom bomb, then this and that. They are busy.
They are busy fool. Actually they are fools, and they are very busy.
Everyone is busy. There are so many parts in the motorcar, three
thousand part, and they are busy in manufacturing three thousand parts
of motor parts. So everyone is busy in producing things unwanted. But
they have created a society in such a way that they have to do that.
740606BG.GEN Lectures
So anyway, the whole world situation is degrading, that people are
not producing their own food. This is the problem, real problem.
Ksetra-ksetra-jna. This example is given. As every man must possess a
piece of land… Therefore this… Because it is very common thing,
this example has been given. Ksetra-ksetra-jna.
So as we till our land and gets foodstuff according to my labor,
according to my intelligence… Food grains I can produce once twice,
thrice, if I work hard. Generally, they work two times: three months,
three months. And those who are very lazy, they work three months. But
even working for three months, they can acquire foodstuffs for the
whole year. That I have seen….
….What is that economical progressing? So that means
busy fool. Fool, they do not know how to satisfy the economic problem
That is recommended in the Bhagavad-gita, annad bhavanti bhutani: You
grow food grains. Then all economic question… But why you are not
producing food grains? Why you are producing iron stools and
instruments and motor and tire and collecting petrol far away from
Arabia?
Krsna never says that “You do all this nonsense.”
He said, “Grow food grains.” Why don’t you do that? That means fools.
After all, you have to eat. So you are not busy in growing your food,
but you are busy in producing tire tubes, motor cars, stools and
instruments. Then how you will get your food? Where is your economic?
First economic is, first necessity, you must eat.
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. In India the, the brahmana class,
they say, “Oh, I am born in brahmana family. Why shall I do this
work?” You see. Therefore the whole society has gone to hell. In your
country still, they accept any kind of work. It doesn’t matter. And
here, in India, if he happens to be a brahmana, he’ll not take any
kind of work. Means… Just like plowing. He’ll not agree. Therefore
so much land. The ksatriya is thinking, “I am ksatriya.” The brahmana
is thinking, “I am brahmana.” And the land is lying fallow. There is
no production. He will go to the office and fight with the pen as a
ksatriya. And instead of studying Vedas, he’ll study the rules and
regulations given by the office. But he’ll not come to plow. Therefore
this scarcity of food. He’ll go to a mill to work as ordinary laborer.
SB 4.22.32 There is no stronger obstruction to one’s self-interest than
thinking other subject matters to be more pleasing than one’s
self-realization.
SB 4.22.33 For human society, constantly thinking of how to earn money and
apply it for sense gratification brings about the destruction of
everyone’s interests. When one becomes devoid of knowledge and
devotional service, he enters into species of life like those of trees
and stones.
PURPORT
Human life is especially meant for self-realization. “Self” refers
to the Superself and the individual self, the Supreme Personality of
Godhead and the living entity. When, however, one becomes more
interested in the body and bodily sense gratification, he creates for
himself obstructions on the path of self-realization. By the influence
of maya, one becomes more interested in sense gratification, which is
prohibited in this world for those interested in self-realization.
Instead of becoming interested in sense gratification, one should
divert his activities to satisfy the senses of the Supreme Soul.
Anything performed contrary to this principle is certainly against
one’s self-interest….
.. Therefore activities directed toward sense gratification are condemned herein.
One who is constantly thinking of activities to earn money and gratify the senses
is following a path which is suicidal. Factually all human society is
following this path. Some way or other, people are determined to earn
money or get money by begging, borrowing or stealing and applying that
for sense gratification. Such a civilization is the greatest obstacle
in the path of self-realization.
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Some Conclusions-1. The two reasons we get thrown into this material world, birth after birth are iccha and dvesa-desire
and hate-which translates as we wanted to enjoy without Krsna and then be happy with that thinking
2. Prabhupada translates those two things-desire and hate as why are we not obeying the Lord in the
way He prescribes? People are growing tire tubes, nuts, bolts cars, computers, etc and
nobody is growing the real necessity-food grains.
3.Modern civilization means work hard –and then, work harder–24/7. The solution the Lord and Srila Prabhupada gives to us is this—work only 2 or 3 months a year, get your food requirements fulfilled, then chant and do other spiritual things the rest of the year. Makes sense to me.
4.The Spiritual tendency is NOT to work, but get things. Nobody wants to die, and nobody really wants
to work-these are spiritual tendencies. These spiritual cravings can be easily satisfied by simple living , high thinking.
5.”They do not understand the God’s arrangement. Only for food they are busy
whole day and night like cats and dogs. ”
6.”So anyway, the whole world situation is degrading, that people are not producing their own food. This is the problem, real problem”….
7.”Krsna never says that “You do all this nonsense.”He said, “Grow food grains.” Why don’t you do that? That means fools.”
8. “One who is constantly thinking of activities to earn money and gratify the senses is following a path which is suicidal. Factually all human society is following this path.. Such a civilization is the greatest obstacle in the path of self-realization.”
9.Not that everybody will grow his own food-even though that would be a great start-what Srila Prabhupada is trying to explain to us is this- The actual Vedic civilization was agrarian or farm based and everything revolved around that prosperity, which is totally the opposite of what we have today. The city is the center and the farmers are going out of business, and how long can this scenario last? Not long. So he is imploring us to all to re think the way we live as devotees because once one leaves the city life, and owns some land and grows his own food, this sets up an independence from the rat race unknown to the devotees at present which translates into so much free time, you wont be able to believe it. And with this extra free time, we can then spend this human form of life as it was meant, by Lord Krsna.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das