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All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Last night before taking rest I was reading this below in the conversation books.
Srila Prabhupada was talking to a Mr Hennis from the United Nations Labor Organization and he was trying to help this man understand that if human society had no brain to lead it, then it was simply a dead body with no higher purposes than animal life.
He also mentioned that devotees should tolerate all difficulties and try to give these people some knowledge
that will help them both individually and collectively. To sit down somewhere and just chant is not his idea of a disciple who would then be imitating Haridas Thakur. If we do this then we will without doubt, become a victim of Maya.
Damaghosa das
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Prabhupada: No, no. We have to go everywhere. Wherever there is opportunity to instruct about this spiritual subject matter, we must go there. We should not have such discrimination, that city should be neglected. No. Why? They are also human being. They are misled. So we have to give them a little instruction. Everywhere. In cities there is possibility. Whatever we have collected, our men, that is from city, not from the village. So why should we neglect city? Where is the question? (break) All hobgoblin, the last word which I said, “dressing the dead body, decorating the dead body.” The society has no brain; that means dead body. When a man’s brain is gone, he is dead body, maybe he is living. He has no use. Just like a madman. He has got life, but what is the use of that life? It is already dead. Because his brain is deranged. Is it not? So if the brain is lost, brain is deranged, therefore it is dead body. That is the distinction between living body and dead body. A living man has got brain. He can work with his brain. And the dead bod… The body is there. Why call it dead? Because brain is not working. Brain is dead. That is the difference. Although the hand is there. The dead man has also hand. The leg is there. The dead man has also leg. But why the hand is leg? Because the brain is dead.
….Prabhupada: Everyone is concocting some ideas, and they are going on as different organization. That’s all. No standard idea. The standard idea is there in the Bhagavad-gita, that cows should be given protection, go-raksya. Who is following this? Everyone is making plan how to kill cows in a more scientific way. This is going on. Who is taking the instruction of Bhagavad-gita? Nobody is taking. Even in India where Bhagavad-gita is originally, these rascals also not taking. And they have become so brainless. Therefore the whole human society is a dead society. And the dead society’s dressing, decorating, is useless waste of time. That’s all. Their education, their advancement… He has no brain. What is the use of education? That is said by Canakya Pandita, that snake is a snake. Do you think a snake decorated with a jewel on the hood is gentleman? Similarly, a man without brain, so-called education, is just like a jewel on the head of a serpent. Kim asau na bhayankara. Canakya Pandita asks “Whether a snake with jewel on the head is not fearful? He is as much fearful as the other snake without the jewel.” Similarly, if a human being has no brain, with his so-called education or no education, it is as good. The education has no value. He does not know what is good work, what is bad work, what is my aim of life, what is this body,
what is the soul? If these things he does not know, then what is the value of his education? So the man is not satisfied?(Mr Hennis of U.N. Labor Org)
Guru Gauranga: He was in a hurry to get out.
Yogesvara: Oh, yes. He asked me to excuse him to you. He had a meeting to go to.
Prabhupada: I would say “If he has no brain, what is the use of going to a meeting?” (laughter) Our only… Sva-vid-varahostra-kharaih samstutah purusah pasuh. The men are like dogs, hogs, camels and asses. What they will do? Meeting of the dogs, hogs, camels and asses will be any beneficial to the society? We are very pessimistic, and our conclusion, that anyone who is not Krsna conscious, he is dogs, hogs, camels, asses, that’s all. No brain, animal. Animal has got brain: how to eat, how to sleep, how to have sex life. So these people, they have got brain for that purposes only. That is animal life. Actually, they do not know what is the aim of life, why people should be educated, why human society should be organized. They do not know. Bahir-artha-maninah. Enamored by these big, big buildings. That’s all. “Oh, they are so advanced.” And naturally, the common man comes to the European or American city, he says, “Oh, Americans are very rich.” “Rich” means they have piled up stones and bricks, that’s
all. This is their richness. What is there in the richness here? But people are common men. They think that this piling of bricks and stone is like real civilization. What do you think? Is that real civilization?
Yogesvara: No.
Prabhupada: Piling of bricks and stones? Heaps of stones and bricks? That is emblem of civilization? They have seen. In Rome they have seen. They also piled like that. Now they have gone. Where they have gone? Why they left? Why they were obliged to leave? That nobody is questioning. And if he has got a different body, if he is living in that house as cats and dogs and rats and ants, then what benefit he has derived? There is possibility. If you have got an attraction for the body, for your house, but you are not going to get a human body, then you’ll have to take your birth in that place, as tree, as plant, as live as rat or cat or ant. You have to live. Nature will give you advantage. But you must get the body according to your karma. That you cannot violate. Where is this science discussed? As soon as we shall speak gentleman like them, they will say, “I have got meeting.” Yogesvara: Yes, “I must leave.”
Prabhupada: Ah, “I must leave.” When we come to real proposition, immediately they want to leave. This is their brain. Yogesvara: Every time a gentleman like that comes or a man like that comes and we get too close to the point about Krsna consciousness, they seem to become afraid.
Prabhupada: No, as soon as we raise this question, killing, he became sorry. He has no answer. Therefore he wants to be out, evade. “Why Christians are killing?” Anyone I raise this question, immediately he becomes stopped, mum, dumb. That’s all. Christian community, there are so many. Practically the majority of the human society, they are Christian. They are the persons who are indulging in killing. And where is Christian? Judging from the Ten Commandments, there is not a single Christian, not a single, and still, they are going, the Pope, the cardinal, the priest, the church. All simply show-bottles, that’s all. There is no life. And therefore it is dwindling. Practically… Just like our Los Angeles was Christian Church. Nobody was coming. Therefore it was sold. And now there is no place to accommodate devotees. Life is lost in Christian religion. Nobody is interested, no more. And within a few years, it will be lost. It is lost in… I have seen in England. Nobody is going to church. All churches are being closed. How long you will cheat? What is that?
Yogesvara: Juice.
Prabhupada: I have got it. You can distribute it.
Pusta-krsna: Prabhupada, they have the philosophy that, generally when we ask them, that “God created the world for us to enjoy.” That is what the Christian generally says, that “The world is made for us to enjoy.”
Prabhupada: But enjoy does not mean that you enjoy sinfully. Did God give that document, that “You enjoy as you like, sinfully.” Enjoy. There is prescription. You enjoy to the prescription. God says, tena tyaktena bhunjitha ma grdhah kasya svid dhanam. You simply enjoy what is allotted to you. Don’t encroach upon other’s property. This is God’s injunction. You enjoy. As human being, you enjoy life. You have got food grains, fruits, flowers, milk. Enjoy life. Offer to Krsna. Enjoy life. Why should you kill animal? That is God’s… Tena tyaktena bhunjitha. He says patram puspam phalam toyam. Why do you go to kill animals? That is not enjoyment. That means you suffer, therefore you are suffering. You are creating suffering. So this man [Mr Hennis from the UN] is at least informed that they have no brain.
Yogesvara: Maybe he will tell them at his meeting.
Prabhupada: (laughter) But he could not defend that he has got brain, yes. So however these men may declare very, very big, we know that “You have no brain. You are as good as animal.” Therefore Bhagavata says, sva-vid-varahostra-kharaih: “These classes of men are no better than the dogs, hogs, camels and asses.” Bhagavata school will not
approve of these rascals as human being. They are so strict. If one is not on the platform of God consciousness, he is not human being. He is animal. That’s a fact.
But we should not hate the animals because our mission is to bring them to the human consciousness. You cannot expect that your audience should be all highly brain. No. Preaching is required because they have no brain. Therefore your duty is to tolerate all difficulties and bring them to the sense of brain. Not that “These people are animals; we shall not mix with them.” Then you have no missionary activities. Then you sit down in a place and chant Hare Krsna. Then don’t open centers. That is also dangerous. If we imitate Haridasa Thakura, “Let us all chant and do nothing,” then the maya, the women, they are very expert. They could not conquer over Haridasa Thakura, but she’ll conquer upon you. And become victim. Therefore we have to be active. We cannot imitate Haridasa. Anyone who has imitated the Haridasa Thakura, he has fallen down. He has fallen. He must fall down because imitating the highest personality, for which he is not fit. Therefore he’s going to fall down. When by preaching, by chanting, we will be expert, then it is possible. …..
SRILA PRABHUPADA KI JAYA!!
