Oct 25 1975 Mauritius conversations
Harikeśa: By chemically changing the genes in the living being we can, before conception, make a superior…
Prabhupāda: You can… First of all you be beaten with shoes. That’s all. Then you can.
Harikeśa: No, we’ve actually done it. We’ve changed some genes and made some people better. By experimentation we can make people…
Prabhupāda: And your big, big cities are full with hippies. You cannot induce them to give up their LSD, and you are making better men. Better men is going to become worse. Just see how cheating.
Note-the Moderna so called vaccine is so named to inform us that their shot is to make man a modern man-hence—moderna-modern RNA
Dont think these demons have given up on altering nature to suit their whims.And now they are trying to shoot everyone up with their latest gene altering concoctions
Harikeśa: Oh, you mean once we make the better men they’ll just degrade again.
Prabhupāda: Simply bogus propaganda. [break]
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: …that their educational system has failed. Therefore they…
Prabhupāda: Yes. They should close the universities and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So by birth they want to make better men. They can’t make them by culture.
Prabhupāda: No, culture… They adopt real culture. What do they know about culture? They’re killing their own children in the womb, and they’re cultured? Worse than the animals. The animals do not do that. These rascals, they are cultured? So wretched and fallen, and they are claiming to be cultured.
Harikeśa: So you can’t culture a superior man unless you are one yourself.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Harikeśa: It’s not possible to culture a superior man unless you are one yourself.
Prabhupāda: Yes. First of all be yourself a cultured man, a gentleman. You are worse than animals. What animals cannot do, you are doing. Hare Kṛṣṇa. [break] …man is defined by Cāṇakya Paṇḍit.
mātṛvat para-dāreṣu
para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat
ātmavat sarva-bhūteṣu
yaḥ paśyati sa paṇḍitaḥ
Here is culture. First thing is, any woman except one’s own wife.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: :What is that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: :Any woman should be looked upon as mother. This is culture. Except his married wife, all women should be treated as mother. The brahmacārīs were taught like that, “Mother.” This is culture. Simply they are trying to elope other’s wife, other’s woman, exploit them. And they’re cultured. There is no culture at the present moment.
Here is a short insert that shows Prabhupada knows what he is talking about sex desire and how difficult it is to control it.
Sept 29 1975 Ahmedabad
Prabhupada:So if they get facility for some maithuna,[sense enjoyment-sex] they will give you money. (Hindi) …prostitute, for convent house. Hm? Brahmānanda? Convent house? What is that convent house? It is not prostitution? That’s all.
Brahmānanda: Usually it’s between the priests and the nuns.
Prabhupāda: Unless one is actually spiritually situated, this material center of happiness, maithunādi, [sex desire]that will go anywhere. You give any color, spiritual or religious or political. You see?Why Gandhi’s āśrama failed? Do you know that? This is… When Gandhi was in jail, when he came back he saw all pregnant. You did not know that?
Kartikeya: No, we imagined, but we don’t have information.
Prabhupāda: That what… Gandhi said, “What is this āśrama?”
Indian man (1): No, but Gandhi… He is well known, very well known.
Prabhupāda: He is well known.
Indian man (1): Including mother Desai and all, there were lot of complaints and countercomplaints.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It cannot be. You cannot stop the sex unless you are fully in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not possible. And that is the material bondage. In the material prisonhouse they have got so many means-big, big walls, handcuff, chain—but nature is so perfect that simply give you a beautiful woman, and you are all prisoner. Big wall, handcuff and chain—everything is complete. I think I have discussed in my recent purports.
Harikeśa: Oh, yes, yes.
Indian man (2): Even in case of mother Desai, it was a classic incident, that his wife came one day to Gandhiji, that “This man is your personal writer but he is going on with another woman in your camp.”
Prabhupāda: There are so many.
Indian man (2): “And he comes only because of that woman. Otherwise he is not willing to be your personal writer. So I have complained.” Then Gandhiji said, “All right, when did you know it?” So she said, “I was thinking for the three months, but fifteen days before I came.” “All right, Mahadeva, you come here. You will fast for fifteen days.” And one week later (indistinct) Mahadeva Desai was that he wanted food very badly. So after seven days he was about to die. Then that woman, wife, came again, “Mahārāja I made a mistake. I made a complaint. All right. But now this man will die and where I will go?” (indistinct) “Then why have you made a complaint? So you can take off for seven days but you fast for seven days.” So he is relieved.
Prabhupāda: One—there are so many cases. This Lilavati Munshi, this is the same thing. You know that? There is a big history behind this.
Kartikeya: The failures are due to some basic reason. All the big people have failed, and they have not been able to deliver the country or anything because their moral character…
Prabhupāda: No, no, even they have delivered the country, these physical elements you cannot avoid. You cannot avoid unless you are on the transcendental platform, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So long you are on the physical platform, you cannot avoid. It is impossible. (Hindi) Gandhiji… (Hindi)… mistake. (Hindi) “And physical? Oh, you have done this? Fifteen days fasting.”
Indian man (1): What is alternative? What do you do when…
Prabhupāda: No, no, alternative, that alternative will not correct. That is the defect of Gandhi’s movement. He is supposed to be reading Bhagavad-gītā, but he has never said, recommended, Kṛṣṇa worship. That is the defect of his education. Rather, he denied the existence of Kṛṣṇa. “I don’t believe if any person as Kṛṣṇa ever lived.” This is his concept.Gandhi has written in his life that while his father was dying he was enjoying sex with his wife. You know that?
Note-so here above Prabhupada is giving perfect examples of famous people he knew that were involved in immoral activities, including Gandhi the so called “Mahatma”.
Now back to the original conversations….
Mātṛvat para-dāreṣu para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat: “And others’ money should be treated just like pebbles in the street.” Nobody cares for it. So they are simply making plans how to grab others’ money. And Ātmavat sarva bhūteṣu: “And if you feel pains and pleasure, you should consider for others also.” If your throat is cut, then do you feel very happy? Why you are cutting the throats of the poor animals? Where is culture?There is no culture. Simply rogues and thieves and rascals and fools. Where is culture? They do not know what is the meaning of culture. Here is culture, three words:
mātṛvat para-dāreṣu
para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat
ātmavat sarva-bhūteṣu
yaḥ paśyati sa paṇḍitaḥ
He is cultured.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Otherwise just animal.
Prabhupāda: Simply animal.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It is very logical.
Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, should we call all the women “mother”?
Prabhupāda: Yes. And treat it like mother. Not only call, but treat it like mother.
Harikeśa: Actually we have not even any idea how to treat mother.
Prabhupāda: Learn it. At least mother should not be proposed for sex. This much you can learn. Mātṛvat para-dāreṣu para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat, ātmavat sarva-bhūteṣu. [break] …0
Some Conclusions —These two conversations are very instructive for the aspiring spiritualist. Prabhupada gives the definition of a learned man-one who sees and treats every woman, besides his own wife, as “Mother”. So what cultured man would have sex with his own mother? Nobody. Yet we are supposed to see and treat every woman, other than our wife- as our Mother. This is real “culture”, which is obviously lacking everywhere in the world today.
The second part of a cultured man is that he sees all others wealth as garbage in the street and will never hanker for it, what to speak of taking it away. Remember back in 2008 when the titans of wall st took away billions of others hard earned savings? What to speak of day to cheating by the “little guys”, that everyone knows is always going on.
The third and last thing for a cultured man to possess is the ability to never give pain to any other living entity. He gives the example that we feel pain when someone cuts us or we do it to ourselves, so how can any cultured man give pain to other living entities like the so important cow, knowing it will cause that mother cow a lot of pain and its very own life as well??
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das
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Below we have one of our current gardens putting out some 300 or more corn plants which I just side dressed each row with composted manure. After this I then hoe each row up, side to side
Below are the same corn rows, now hoed up ,weeded, watered, and ready to grow. This fertilizer application is necessary if you want robust corn !
This willow tree pole below, that supports the last section of pole beans was cut from a willow tree. The whole branch was very clean with nothing growing out from it, and that is why I picked these 3 poles to support the beans. Now we see how the amazing soul, by its own particular karma, can inhabit a place which is suitable for its growth. Now, today some weeks later, these poles have all sorts of leaves sprouting out from them all the way from the ground to the top of the pole.
Willow bark has traditionally been used as a rooting hormone compound, so that when you plant some new plant into the earth it helps the initial spurt of growth. I was amazed how this took place on three very clean and “empty poles”
Hare Krsna