Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below Srila Prabhupada explains on one morning, walk a few things important to understand.
1.) How to start a temple–first get the devotees, then the Lord will come
2.) Faith means understanding that by worshipping Krsna, everything needed will come.
3.)Chanting without offense is the drying process, if we commit offenses we are pouring water on the drying process of devotional service-so our choice–it could take 3 minutes or 3 million years.
4.) Suicide for Chota Hari das was for him , not us, because his falldown was for example to us. This is the famous Visnujana swami episode.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There’s been a feeling that all year their hard work has all become worthwhile simply by coming here.
Prabhupāda: Hm. Yes. Make it more…. Therefore I wanted first of all this house, not the temple, because where they’ll stay?They’ll come to the temple. Where they will stay? If you get staying place
(Note-Prabhupada first made the devotees come, then he invited the Lord to come-not the other way around like some who criticized him)
…..Prabhupāda: Śraddhā, this faith, means so strong faith that one will know it perfectly well that simply by worshiping Kṛṣṇa, everything is there. That is the beginning of faith. Otherwise there is no faith. And without faith there is no beginning. Ādau śraddhā. Ādau śraddhā tataḥsādhu–saṅgaḥ
…..Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Ācāryopāsanam. That is in the Bhagavad-gītā. Ācāryopāsanam. It is not self-aggrandizement. The ācāryopāsanā goes toKṛṣṇa directly. Therefore it is needed. Not that it is a pompous thing.Ācāryopāsanā. Kṛṣṇa says
Pañcadraviḍa: How does that work, that if somebody has the association of a pure devotee for only a lava, one-eleventh of a second, that he attains all perfection?
Prabhupāda: If he is so sincere…. Just like dried wood immediately ignites. And if it is moist, it does not. It is the quality of the wood. One takes three hundred years; one in three minutes. That’s it. [break] One is dry from the material moist of contamination, he becomes immediately ignited in spiritual…
Prabhupāda: Drying process is for many, many years one has tried to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, for many, many lives, bahūnāṁ janmanāmante [
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa’s mercy is already there, but if you are not able to take it…
Pañcadravida: Then you don’t even have to hear from a self-realized soul. Simply by seeing him you can become completely purified.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Both required. The matches must be also all right, and the wood must be also. Then there is fire. If one of them is defective, then, it will not.... But when you go to the fire, you become dry. But willfully we put again water. This nonsense business makes us late. This process is already there, how to become dry. But instead of taking the process, we put water. Then how it will be ignited? The rules and regulations is the drying process. But without following the rules and regulation, if you again become a victimized by māyā, then there is water and again dry it. So this is going on, watering and drying, watering and drying. No staightforward process for drying. That will help. But difficulty is that we dry and again water.
Viṣṇujana: Śrīla Prabhupāda, how did Choṭa Haridāsa achieve perfection by killing himself after apparently pouring water on his devotional creeper by talking to a woman?
Prabhupāda: His instance was that even an associate of CaitanyaMahāprabhu can fall down. And if one falls down, his punishment is that, suicide. There is no other punishment. He must commit suicide. This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s instruc….Otherwise he is CaitanyaMahāprabhu’s personal servant. He cannot fall down. But CaitanyaMahāprabhu showed this instance that “Even one is My personal servant, he can fall down.” And if anyone by any cause he falls down, his punishment is he must commit suicide. This is instruction.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. “You have fallen down? You must commit suicide. No more My association.”
(Note-I was on this morning walk with Srila Prabhupada when Visnujana asked him this question-unfortunately, he fell back in the group I was told, and didnt hear the rest of what Prabhupada said -about suicide)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is that the same as in the Bhagavad-gītā where Kṛṣṇa
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is another thing. Caitanya Mahāprabhupers
Satsvarūpa: But Śrīla Prabhupāda, in The Nectar of Devotion it says devotional service is so pure that there’s no prāyaścitta necessary. Just again engage in your service.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is not prāyaścitta. This is exemplary punishment. He was not liable to be punished, but they played that “This is the…. This should be done.”
Prabhupāda: He was waiting if Caitanya Mahāprabhu
Prabhupāda: No, I am not Caitanya Prabhu. I am not…. Why you are comparing me? I am an ordinary man.
Prabhupāda: No.
Gurudāsa: We wouldn’t have much of a movement, then.
Prabhupāda: No, no, if he falls down, that is automatically suicide. If he falls down, that means it is suicide. He got the chance. If he falls down, that is suicide.
Prabhupāda: Spiritual suicide. If one gets the chance of becoming eligible for going back to home, back to Godhead,and if he commits mistake and it is stopped, is it not suicide?
Guru–kṛpā: You once gave the example, Śrīla Prabhupāda, of taking your plane off the ground and then bringing it back to land again.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guru–kṛpā: You once gave the example that you take your plane to a destination, and you have to turn around and come back and start all over again, take off again.
Prabhupāda: There are so many. Dṛḍha–vrata. Bhajante ma
Conversations Mayapur March 11 1976