Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Below we have two separate quotes about who is liberated.
The first one says if we are even slightly interested in Krsna katha, that means
we are liberated. The second one gives a lot more information.
But the interesting thing is that if one just reads the first one and nothing more
then he will think I am liberated and dont have to do anything more because I am “slightly interested”
in Krsna-therefore I am liberated. This is how one can read the books and screw
out any meaning he wants-this is called sahajiya mentality or prakrta bhakta.
Having a little knowledge is dangerous. We must become fully aware of the
spiritual science of God Consciousness, Krsna Consciousness.
For example, one time I asked an iskcon “guru” if he was liberated.
He immediately replied- Yes.
I looked at him ,surprised by this answer, then asked him to tell him what are the qualifications of one who is liberated. He was silent for a long time. I asked him the same question again-and I wasn’t being aggressive then either, just two devotees sitting down for prasadam , side by side on the floor.
Finally I spoke up and listed off the top of my head, about 10 qualifications listed in Prabhupadas books as to the actual requirements for one so liberated. Then asked him if he fit this description?
Then this person said to me–“You know Damaghosa, you are the most envious person I have ever met” And that is an exact quote. There were two other friends of mine also privy to this conversation sitting along side of us. They later told me they were struck by his nasty reply back to me. He took the offensive and aggressive position against me-and all because I asked him that one question. Are you liberated?
This is why we must daily read Prabhupadas books so that we can understand things as they are and defeat these demons in the guise of spiritualists.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
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1.) SB 10.1.4 T The Advent of Lord Krsna: Introduction 79025/549557
We have described several times that there are two
kinds of krsna-katha, represented by Bhagavad-gita, spoken
personally by Krsna about Himself, and Srimad-Bhagavatam, spoken
by Sukadeva Gosvami about the glories of Krsna. Anyone who becomes
even slightly interested in krsna-katha is liberated. Kirtanad eva
krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet (Bhag. 12.3.51). Simply by
chanting or repeating krsna-katha, one is liberated from the
contamination of Kali-yuga. Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore advised,
yare dekha, tare kaha ‘krsna’-upadesa (Cc. Madhya 7.128). This is
the mission of Krsna consciousness: to hear about Krsna and thus
be liberated from material bondage.
2.) SOCRATES.HAY Discussions with Hayagriva dasa 257119/530501 As mukti, liberation, means that to be free from this all nonsense engagements. Nitya-baddha, they are engaged, all these karmis, jnanis, yogis, they are simply engaged in some false engagements to become happy. So when one is free from these false engagements, then he is in the liberated state. Mukti means muktir hitva anyatha rupam. Anyatha rupam means he is acting otherwise. So one has to come to the real position, not work, act otherwise. So he is eternal servant of Krsna. When he fully engage himself in the service of Krsna, then he is liberated, and if he keeps himself, then nobody can touch, the maya cannot touch. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya. Maya is very strong, but if one keeps in touch with Krsna constantly, maya has no jurisdiction. Mayam etam taranti te. This is perfection of life.