SB class Vol 8

730909SB.STO Lectures 224802/530501 … Before the child is born, you don’t find in the breast of the mother any drop of milk. See. In a young girl, there is no milk in the breast. But as soon as the child is born, immediately there is milk. Immediately, spontaneously. This is God’s arrangement. Because the child requires food. Just see how God’s arrangement is there. Still, we are trying for economic development. If a child is born and God’s economic program is so nice, nature’s economic program, that immediately the mother is ready with the milk… This is economic development. So the same milk is supplied by the cow. She’s actually mother, and this rascal civilization is killing mother. Mother-killing civilization. Just see. You suck the breast of your mother from the beginning of your life, and when she’s old if you think, “Mother is useless burden. Cut its throat,” is that civilization?

730909SB.STO Lectures 224804/530501 If you have got enough milk production, you can take, break the milk, and you get cheese. And from cheese, if you… We are daily doing that. You can make nice preparation, chana. That is very nutritious, full of protein. And you can make rasagulla, sandesa, so many other preparations from the casein of the cheese. But they do not know. Crude civilization, and take a lump of flesh and boil it and give little salt and black pepper and eat like animal. This is civilization. This is civilization. Just try to understand. You have to convince your countrymen that what is this civilization, nonsense civilization? Stop this kind of civilization. Learn how to become civilized. Don’t claim yourself as civilized man and eating like

730909SB.STO Lectures 224806/530501 condition, I’m always very happy”? Is there anyone? That rascal civilization, they cannot understand. They are trying to stop miserable condition, but he does not know that miserable condition is his body. Just see how foolish (it) is. He does not know that this very body is the cause of your miserable condition. They do not know. They are trying to improve the condition. How you’ll improve the condition? Just like in our Bengal there is a word, jadi jau bange kapala jabe sange (?). Just like people are going from this country to that to improve economic condition. But it is a common saying that “Wherever you rascal go, your fate will go with you.” Either you go to England or India or here and there… Because people are struggling for economic development. But he does not know that I cannot make an inch of development beyond the destiny which is already fixed up. Already fixed up. Don’t you see that two men, they are working day and night, very hard. One man has become all of a sudden millionaire, and another man, he has no employment. Why? Why this distinction? Both of them have worked hard to improve economic development, but one has become very quickly millionaire, another is still struggling. He does not know how to eat tomorrow. Why this arrangement? Who has made this arrangement? So this is actually study–that you cannot change your fate. Already fixed up. The material condition of life, as soon as you get a certain type of body, your pains and pleasure already fixed up within the body routine work. You cannot make any change. Just like the–I have given many times-the pig, he’s destined to eat stool. Therefore he has been awarded that type of body. So however you canvass this pig, “Why you are eating the stool? Take this halava,” he’ll not take. It will not take. Because his destiny means he has got that particular type of body. So these are finer studies. So according to the body, everyone’s happiness and distress is already fixed up. You cannot change it. That is called fate. That is called fate. But you can change your fate if you take to Krsna consciousness. That is possible. So far your body is concerned

750415SB.HYD Lectures 224820/530501 At night our business is to sleep, and to indulge in sex. In this way we are wasting time, night. And daytime, diva carthehaya rajan kutumba-bharanena va. And in the daytime, we are very busy going this side, that side. Why? To get some money, div a ca artha ihaya. Desiring where I shall get money? Where I shall get money? Diva carthehaya, and as soon as I get money, I spend it, kutumba-bharanena va, to maintain our family. So where is time for Krsna consciousness? There is no time sir.

750415SB.HYD Lectures 224821/530501 priti-yukta, he’s not interested. Although he is at home, he is not interested at home. Therefore generally devotees, they become very reluctant in the interest of maintaining family, children, wife. Simply as far as possible, duty. So much interested, not any more. These are the signs. If you want to find out a grhastha mahatma, then he has got his family, he has got his children, he has got his wife, he has got his business. He has got to meet so many other people, but they are, he’s not at all interested. Simply behavior, official. “Yes, yes, it is all right. Yes, it is all right. What you say it is all right, but I am not interested.” This is called disinterested. People are generally very much interested in these things. So if you want to find out a mahatma within the society, not as a renounced sannyasi, then these are the symptoms. There are other symptoms. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma, that we shall describe later on. These are the general symptoms of a mahatma grhastha. He is not interested in this bodily concept of life, or maintaining very opulently his family members, or talking very seriously with persons who are simply materially interested, dehambhara, just to maintain this body. Of course we require to maintain this body. He is not neglectful. There is no question of negligence. He takes care of his children, of his wife, everything, but without any attachment. That is recommended by the Gosvamis. That, anasaktasya visayan yatharham upayunjatah. You give education to your children, that is required. You maintain your wife, that is also required, no negligence, but no attatchment at the same time. No attachment, that I shall sacrifice everything for my wife, and children, and home. That is not a mahatma’s business, because he knows that he cannot improve the destiny. Everybody has got his body with certain destiny already settled up. That you cannot change. Otherwise everyone is trying to become very rich, very important, there is no scarcity of endeavor, but not that everyone is becoming like that. That is called destiny. So those who are believer in the sastras, believer in the Supreme Lord, they believe in destiny also. Therefore sastra says, tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatam upary adhah. We should try for advancing our Krsna consciousness. That is our main business. Tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovido. Kovidah means very expert. He should try for advancing in Krsna consciousness, not for material advancement. This is civilization. That is, we have already discussed. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye. If you think that, “If I work very hard, then I shall improve my position,” that is not possible. Your position is already fixed up. Then shall I not try for my happiness? Yes. That is replied in the sastra. Tal labhyate duhkhavad anyatah sukham. You do not try for distress of life, why does it come? You do not ask God, “Please give me distress.” Nobody asks, but why distress comes? Similarly, if you do not pray for happiness, if you have got happiness in your destiny, it will come, as the distress comes. Tal labhyate duhkhavad anyatah sukham. So don’t be misled by so-called happiness and distress. It is already fixed up. Simply try for advancing in Krsna consciousness. That is real business. Tasyaiva hetoh prayateta kovido. That business can be done very perfectly well when, mahat-sevam dvaram ahur vimuktes, when we associate with mahatma. It doesn’t matter whether he’s a sannyasi or grhastha, he must be mahatma. Mahatma means one who has got relationship with Krsna. That is described in the Bhagavad…, mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah, bhajanty ananya-manaso, that is mahatma. You cannot stamp anybody and become a mahatma. No. Mahatma’s sign is, mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritah, bhajanty ananya-manaso. He has no other business. Simply he has only one business: how to please Krsna. That is mahatma. 750415SB.HYD Lectures 224829/530501 Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita there is no other business than bhakti. There is no other business. Karma, jnana, yoga. They are described, but with the aim to culminate in bhakti. Just like karma. Krsna said, yat karosi yad asnasi yat tapasyasi kurusva tat mad-arpanam, “Give it to Me.” This is bhakti. So far jnanis are concerned, Krsna concludes bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate. Jnanis, after many, many births, cultivation of knowledge, when he actually begins to become a bhakta, then his perfection is there.

bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma su-durlabhah

This is for the jnanis, and for the karmis, yat karosi. Yat karosi, “Whatever you do, the result you give it to me.” That means, bhakti misra karma, jnana misra bhakti. And for the yogis, he says, The first class yogi is, who is always thinking of Me. He is first-class. Yogi’s business is to see God within the heart. That is real yogi. Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yogino. Yogi’s business is to see in meditation always Krsna or Visnu within the heart. That is real yogi. Dhyanavasthita, by meditation one has to see continually. That is called samadhi.

yoginam api sarvesam mad-gatenantaratmana sraddhavan bhajate yo mam sa me yuktatamo matah

He is first-class yogi. So everything is there ending in bhakti. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita, the only talk is about bhakti, in a different way, either through karma-yoga, or jnana-yoga, or hatha-yoga. The point is how to become a devotee, and at the end He concludes, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. This is the conclusion of, so these things cannot be understood by anyone who is not a devotee. Without being devotee, you cannot understand.

750415SB.HYD Lectures 224838/530501 Acyutananda: How can we… Prabhupada: I may say many things to you, but when I say something directly, “Do it,” your first duty is to do that. You cannot argue, “Sir, you said me like this before.” No, that is not your duty. What I say now, you do it. That is obedience. You cannot argue. Of course, Krsna never said anything contradictory, but if when one thinks foolishly that Krsna said something contradictory, no, that is not to be. You could not understand. So even though you could not understand, you take My direct orders now. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam e…, that is your business. The master says like that, and the servant’s business is to accept it as it is, without any argument. That’s all right.

761025SB.VRN Lectures 224882/530501 examples of mahatma. Don’t misunderstand that we are preaching that mahatmas are only in India. No. By the order of the Supreme Personality of Godhead there are mahatmas even amongst the birds, even amongst the beasts, even amongst the lower than animals. Because this Krsna consciousness movement is going on in different places, in different circumstances. That is God’s desire. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata tadatmanam srjamy aham. So Krsna wants this. Just like in your country there is welfare activities by the government. The welfare department is seeing that nobody is unhappy for want of money. Similarly, mahatmas, they are also in the welfare department of Krsna. They are sent to different countries, different places, different species of life, so that the living entity may take advantage of Krsna consciousness.

770329SB.BOM Lectures 224912/530501 So Krsna is so friendly that He always lives with us just to turn our face towards Krsna. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna tisthati. What is His business? He is simply waiting for the time when we shall turn our face to Krsna. That is His business. But unfortunately, we do not want Krsna. We want something which is not Krsna. That is our disease. Still, Krsna is giving us facility. Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya. Krsna gives intelligence, mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca, that “You are My part and parcel. Why you are struggling so hard in this material world? Come to Me. I will give you all protection.” Aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. He is ready. But I’ll not do. That’s my obstinacy. At that time what Krsna will do? He is affectionate father. “All right, what do you want to do?” “I want to do like this.” “All right.” Bhramayan sarva-bhutani yantrarudhani mayaya. He immediately orders prakrti… Mayadhyaksena prakrteh suyate sa-caracaram. “This living entity wants a body like this. So give him a body like that.” Yantra. That is called yantra. It is a machine. This body is the machine. And therefore we are changing, one body to another, yantrarudhani mayaya. This is our business.

770329SB.BOM Lectures 224913/530501 So if I am now in a yantra, Mercedes car, and suppose next life I ride on another yantra which is four-legged dog, then what is the benefit of this kind of struggle for existence? But that is going on. Therefore Krsna warns, asraddhadhanah purusa dharmasyasya parantapa mam aprapya. “The aim of life was to achieve Me,” Krsna says, “but the result is, because he does not hear what I say,” mam aprapya nivartante, “again goes back,” mrtyu-samsara-vartmani. This material world means to take birth and die. That is called mrtyu-samsara-vartmani. Now I am born as Indian or as brahmana or something like that. The next life, there is no guarantee. Krsna does not say that there is guarantee. Krsna says tatha dehantara-praptih. You have to change your body. Tatha dehantara-praptih dhiras tatra na muhyati.

761026SB.VRN Lectures 224955/530501 So if you want to stop these varieties of body, then you should give up all these nonsense desires. Anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam. You are jnani, you are karmi, you are yogi, but your desires are all different. One yogi wants that “I shall fly in the sky.” One yogi wants, “I shall walk on the water.” One yogi thinks, “I shall create gold and show magic to the rascal people that I am God.” This is going on. One jnani, he is speaking something, one karmi… This is going on. Therefore there are varieties, varieties of desires. You have to stop these nonsense desires. That is wanted. Otherwise, you are implicated. You are implicated. So, therefore you can stop your desires only by becoming Krsna conscious. Otherwise, they will go on. Svamin krtartho ‘smi varam na yace. This is Dhruva Maharaja said. He had desires, very, very great desires that “I shall have, I shall possess a kingdom greater than Brahma, greater than my father.” He was insulted by his stepmother. This is desire. This is We are Action and reaction. So he desired that “I shall have a great kingdom–greater kingdom than my father.” He went to the forest and he underwent very severe austerities, a five-years-old boy. He saw, Krsna came. So when He wanted to give him, fulfill his desires, he said, svamin krtartho ‘smi varam na yace: “No, no, no, no. I have nothing to ask from You.” This is Krsna consciousness. No more desires. Otherwise, karmi, jnani, yogi, and bhakta. Akamah sarva-kamo va moksa-kama udara-dhih. Moksa-kama, the jnanis they want moksa, to merge into the existence of Brahman. The yogis, they want siddhis, some perfection, material perfection, to show some magic. And the karmis, they want sense gratification. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu said that karmi jnani yogi sakali asanta. Asanta, they cannot be at peace because they are desiring. So long you want, you desire, there will be no peace. Krsna-bhakta–niskama, ataeva santa. So this is the recommendation, nunam pramattah kurute-vikarma. They are mad after sense gratification and doing everything nonsense which is forbidden in the sastra. You know, those who are too much after fulfilling desires, they even kill his own men. He’ll kill his own child. Because the mother desiring that “I have become pregnant. It is botheration. It will check my sense gratification. Kill.” Vikarma. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma. He doesn’t see that what will be the result of it. Vikarma. Karma, vikarma, akarma. Karma means prescribed duties, according… Just like law. “You keep to the right,” this is law. And as soon as you keep to the wrong side, left, it is vikarma. This is karma and vikarma. But for sense-gratification we execute vikarma. So therefore we are implicating and we are preparing for the next life. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram: at the time of death these desires become prominent. Even without desire we get so many ideas and dream at night. So at the time of death, on account of our vikarma, we shall create a situation, and the next life we get a similar body. That’s all. Nunam pramattah kurute. Na sadhu manye yata atmano ‘yam. I have got already one body which is klesada. Everyone has got experience. No one is here who can say that “My body is very nice. There is no klesa. There is no pains and pleasure. I am very perfect.” That is not possible. As soon as you get a material body, it must be subjected to so many sufferings: adhyatmika, adhibautika, adhidaivika. Tribulations there must be. Material body means klesada. Therefore the Vedic civilization is to stop getting this material body. That is Vedic civilization. Not that increase. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita. Two things are there. You must accept, you must get the service of Krsna. Otherwise you go on in this way. Mrtyu-samsara-vartamani. Asraddadhanan purusa dharmasyasya parantapa mam aprapya. If you don’t get Krsna, then there is no other way. There is no other alternative. The only alternative is mrtyu-samsara-vartmani. You get one body and again you die, again get another body. This will go on. Therefore we should not Na sadhu manye. Rsabhadeva, boys, said, “This is not good.” Na sadhu manye yata atmano ‘yam asann api klesada asa dehah. So this culture, this education, is practically nil. Especially in Kali-yuga, it is very regrettable.

730910SB.STO Lectures 225010/530501 so-called scholar, doctors, Ph.D., D.H.C Just like that Professor Kotovsky said, “After finishing this body, everything is finished.” He does not know what he is. This is the position. Therefore the so-called scholars, learned men, whatever they are doing, they are being defeated because he does not know his identity. Unless you know your identity, then how can you work for the goal of life? If your identity is mistaken, then whatever you are doing, that is your defeat. Yavat kriyas tavad idam mano vai karmatmakam yena sarira-bandhah. Everyone has got different types of mentality. So karmatmakam means… That is general mentality, that “I shall work

730910SB.STO Lectures 225021/530501 It is a science. We are teaching that somehow or other you enhance your love for God. Then you are saved. This is a science. And how to enhance that love of Godhead? That is our activities: to rise early in the morning, to offer mangala-aratrika, to dress the Deity, to offer Him nice foodstuff, to observe festivals, writing books, distributing them. These are activities in devotional service that will save us from this repetition of birth and death.

730910SB.STO Lectures 225023/530501 Unless you become devotee of Vasudeva, Krsna… Therefore Krsna personally comes and He says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. That is for your interest. Krsna says that “You surrender unto Me.” It is not Krsna’s interest. If you surrender, not interest, Krsna does not lose anything. He is omnipotent. He can create millions of devotees like you by His desire. He doesn’t canvass. He is not canvassing, that “You become My devotee and I shall be very rich.” No. Not the purpose. It is for your interest. The same thing. If you become a devotee of Vasudeva, then you are saved from this repetition of birth and death. It is not Krsna’s interest. It is Krsna’s interest in this way, that because you are part and parcel, you are son of Krsna… Krsna is the aham bija-pradah pita… As the father, rich father, He does not like to see that His son will become a crazy, mad fellow and loiter in the street. He doesn’t want it. But if you do not come back to home, there is no loss of the father. But if you back to home of a rich father, then it is your interest. It is your interest.

730910SB.STO Lectures 225024/530501 Bhakti means priti, real love. When I actually love Krsna, that is called priti. Just like we love our beloved, our child or husband or wife… That is also not love. That is a temporary sentiment. Actual love is possible with Krsna. That is actual love. Once you love Krsna, it cannot be broken at any time. It cannot be broken, any circumstances. So therefore somehow or other we have to… Yena tena prakarena manah krsne nivesayet. Somehow or other you must engage yourself in loving Krsna. That is the success of life.

730910SB.STO Lectures 225025/530501 So even one is brahmana, he is also under the grip of material nature. And what to speak of one who is a sudra or less than a sudra. Everyone is trying to improve himself under the influence of certain modes of material nature. So when one becomes vipascit, viveki… Vipascit means enlightened. These, my activities under the influence of different modes of material nature, this is waste of time. Even if I become a brahmana, that is also waste of time, and what to speak of if I become a ksatriya, passionate. Passionate… This vaisya, this mercantile class of men, they are passionate and ignorance mixture. They are very active: “I am very running, I am very busy,” but running here and there in ignorance. Just like you will see the monkey. Monkey is always very busy, but what is the meaning of his business? He is in ignorance. As soon as a monkey comes… You have so such disturbance. In India, as soon as a monkey comes, everyone wants to drive him away. Because he has come to become business and to make some loss. That’s all. That is his business. Wherever he sits, he will move like this. (makes sounds moving arms back and forth) He is not at all silent. He is always active. But because he is monkey, monkey is a symbol of… Ass, they are symbol of ignorance. Therefore such kind of business is useless. It is simply harmful. So when one comes to understand that “This is my business, this my goodness, everything, it is all useless. Unless I become attached, I am a devotee of Vasudeva, Krsna, all these attempts are simply futile attempts,” that is enlightenment. When one understands, “Yes, my only business is to surrender to Krsna, to love Krsna,” then he is to be understood, he is enlightened, educated. Ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan. That is fortune. Yada na pasyaty ayatha guneham svarthe pramattah. He does not know his interest. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum. They do not know that “My svartha, my interest, my goal of life, is to love, to find out God and to love Him. That is my real interest.” So, so long one is not enlightened to that standard of life, then he is defeated. Then how he is defeated? Gata-smrtir, gata-smrtir vindati tatra tapan asadya maithunyam agaram ajnah. He remains a ajnah, foolish. And what is his happiness? His happiness is sex life. That’s all. That is his happiness. Maithunyam agaram. He is in the prison house of this material nature, but he does not know that “I am in prison.” He is simply enjoying the three things. Udaram varitha.(?) Udaram varitha: the tongue, the belly and the genital. That is stated here. Gata-smrtir vindati. And to enjoy this material, he has to undergo so much tribulation. Tapan vindati. Therefore Govinda dasa sings, sita atapa bata barisana, e dina jamini jagi re, biphale sevinu krpana durajana, capala sukha-laba lagi’ re. In this country, there is snowfall. Still, people will have to go to work very hard, day and night. But why? Why they are accepting such hard labor? Somebody is coming from India in this country. The climate is not very suitable in comparison to India, but they have come here to work hard. Why? Sex pleasure. That’s all. He will get money and he will have home and sex pleasure or tongue pleasure. So therefore it is said, gata-smrtih. Actual. Actually, he has forgotten. His own business, he has forgotten, but he is entrapped by a process of sense gratification. Although it is very great hardship and miserable condition, but he is satisfied because this sense gratification is there. Gata-smrtih tatra tapan asadya maithunyam agaram ajnah. Because he is foolish, therefore he likes to be imprisoned simply for sense gratification.

761027SB.VRN Lectures 225033/530501 Pradyumna: “As long as one does not inquire about the spiritual values of life, one is defeated and subjected to miseries arising from ignorance. Be it sinful or pious, karma has its resultant actions. If a person is engaged in any kind of karma, his mind is called karmatmaka, colored with fruitive activity. As long as the mind is impure, consciousness is unclear, and as long as one is absorbed in fruitive activity, he has to accept a material body.” Prabhupada:

parabhavas tavad abodha-jato yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam yavat kriyas tavad idam mano vai karmatmakam yena sarira-bandhah

It is very quite natural, whatever you do, your mind will be absorbed in that business. Karmatmakam. Therefore our mind should be engaged always in Krsna: sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor. Then we can be relieved from this sarira-bandhah.

761027SB.VRN Lectures 225040/530501 means To accept guru means the disciple should be very very eager to know. Sad-dharma prcchat. Adau gurvasrayam. Why you accept a guru? “It is a fashion.” Fashion. Nowadays they accept a guru fashion. “Everyone has guru. Everyone has a dog. Well, let me keep a dog.” Like that. A pet dog. So similarly, to keep a pet guru, that is not One should be very inquisitive: sad-dharma prcchat. And everywhere the same thing. Pariprasna. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya. But don’t make inquiries cheap: “Here is my guru, and he’s meant for answering all my questions. Let me go on questioning, questioning, questioning.” No. Sevaya. You must serve. You must be ready to serve him. Then you have got right to make question. Otherwise not. Two things. First of all, you must find out a person where you can fully surrender, pranipatena. And then you can inquire, and the inquiry should be compensated by seva. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasada. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah. The more you are inclined to render seva, the more the truth becomes revealed.

yasya deve para bhaktir yatha-deve tatha gurau tasyaite kathita hy arthah prakasante (mahatmanah)

It is a different science. The more you are inclined to render service, the more spiritual truth becomes revealed. And two things: if you are not inquisitive, don’t bother yourself to have a guru. Useless. There is no need. Tasmad gurum prapadyeta. Tasmad. Therefore. What is therefore? Jijnasuh sreya uttamam. If you are inquisitive about transcendental science, sreya uttamam… Sreya and preya–two things are there. Sreya means ultimate good, and preya means immediate sense gratification, it is preya. And sreya means ultimate good. So if one is inquisitive to know what is the ultimate goal of life, for him, a guru is required. But if he wants immediate some sense gratification, he doesn’t require a guru. For sense gratification there is no need of guru. Even these birds and beasts, they know how to gratify senses. There is no need of university or teacher. Say for sex life, nobody requires to go to the university. They know. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca. These four things, there is no need of university education.

761028SB.VRN Lectures 225058/530501 There are two kinds of strong avidya, ignorance, unawareness. Sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. Rajo-guna and tamo-guna is covering. Tamo-guna is very densely covering, and rajo-guna little open, and sattva-guna means prakasa, there is illumination, brahminical qualifications. When one is in the sattva-guna then he can understand that “I am not this body. I am different from this body.” For them, those who are in the sattva-guna, for them it is easier. So therefore the process is Human civilization means not to drag somebody who is already in the sattva-guna or in the family of sattva-guna, to drag him down to the tamo-guna. The modern civilization is like that. The allurement of material civilization is so strong and so bad that those who are by pious activities born in brahmana family, they are being dragged to the tamo-guna behavior like sudras. They are learning how to drink, how to eat meat, how to have illicit sex. These are the symptoms of tamo-guna, lowest type of tamo-guna. There are different degrees of guna. The degrees are so mixed up. Therefore three gunas is manifested into 8,400,000 different forms of life, mixture. You can calculate. We have several times calculated. Three multiplied by three equals nine. Nine multiplied by nine, eighty-one. So therefore there are so many varieties. So human civilization should be so arranged that never mind, it is so mixed up, you have to gradually draw him again to the sattva-guna. That is human civilization. Not that drag him again to the tamo-guna. Somebody, by pious activities, by good work, he’s already in the sattva-guna, but the arrangement The social, political, economical arrangement is so bad that one is dragged to the tamo-guna. This is not civilization. This is degradation. Civilization means elevation. The aim is how to become disconnected with this material body. This is civilization.

761029SB.VRN Lectures 225078/530501 So, one has to be vipascit, learned, to understand the interest of life, self-interest. Everyone is working, especially the karmis, the jnanis, the yogis, and mixed devotees, they are working for self-interest. The devotees also, so long there is self, there is self-interest also. So there is little difference, that the devotees, they work for Super-self-interest. There is self, but it is Super-self-interest. And the karmis, jnanis, yogis they work for individual self-interest. Self-interest there must be.

761030SB.VRN Lectures 225105/530501 This is material world, aham mameti, “I am this,” artho ‘ham, balavan aham. “I am everything,” aham, “and this is mine. This is my property. This is my country. This is my society. This is my nation.” Mine, mine, mine. And I, I, I. This is material world. Krsna says, bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram. The Supreme Personality of Godhead declares clearly that “I am the proprietor.” Sastra says, Veda says, isavasyam idam sarvam: it is God’s property, everything. We are claiming, our country, “This is my country,” but as soon as you go on the beach of the sea, your country finishes, the land. Then whose, the water, whose water that is? But the foolish person: “No, it is in my throne(?), it is mine.” So this is moha, illusion.

761030SB.VRN Lectures 225117/530501 sannyasi. Without becoming brahmana, there is no question of becoming sannyasa. In the Sankara-sampradaya they are very strict. Unless one is born in a brahmana family, he is not awarded the sannyasa. That is the stricture. But according to our Vaisnava, according to Caitanya Mahaprabhu, pancaratriki-viddhi, if there is little tendency of the person to become devotee, he is given the chance. Never mind he’s born in a sudra family, a candala family. That is sanctioned in the sastra: kirata-hunandhra-pulinda pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah, ye ‘nye ca papa. Anyone. Krsna also says, mam hi partha vyapasritya ye ‘pi syuh papa-yonayah. So Narada Muni, he is a great devotee, he has given allowance to everyone to become a brahmana, to become a sannyasi. First of all he must be trained up to become a brahmana, then sannyasi. This is a fact. Without becoming a brahmana, there is no question of sannyasa.

761031SB.VRN Lectures 225130/530501 Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu when He delivered Jagai-Madhai… This Jagai-Madhai was debauch, drinking, illicit sex, meat eating and these things, degradation. These four principles are the four pillars of degradation. Therefore we prohibit. That if you want to make progress in Krsna consciousness, you must give up these four principles. So, Caitanya Mahaprabhu made this condition, that if you promise that you will give up these four principles of sinful life, then I will accept you. Never mind whatever you have done in the past. Every man is sinful, there is no doubt about it, more or less. That is not disqualification. If he agrees to give up that, then immediately he becomes liberated. That is Krsna also says in the Bhagavad…, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. Liberation is not very difficult. It can be obtained in one minute, provided you want to take it. Just like Krsna says,

sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah So, if you are free from the resultant action of sinful life, then you are liberated. If you get shelter at the lotus feet of Krsna, and do not act in such a way that you again fall down, then you are liberated. Liberation means, we have several times discussed, hitva anyatha-rupam svarupena vyavasthitih. Our svarupa means original, constitutional position is jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa, eternally servant of Krsna. So as soon as we place ourselves in our original place, then you are liberated immediately.

761031SB.VRN Lectures 225135/530501 Krsna is not stereotyped, that He has to be served in this way only. No, Krsna can accept service in so many ways. There are dvadasa-rasa, akhila-rasamrta-sindhu. Just like Krsna is enjoying when Bhismadeva was piercing His body with the arrows. He was enjoying. This is also rasa. Bhisma, purposefully, he knows Krsna is the Supreme Lord, still, he is devotee, he was giving Him pleasure by throwing arrows on His body. So Krsna takes pleasure in that. Krsna does not take pleasure only when you throw rose flowers. He can take pleasure when you can pierce. If you are actually able to do that. So that is Krsna.

761031SB.VRN Lectures 225140/530501 But the policy is that his money, which is accumulated for sense gratification… In Western countries they accumulate millions of dollars and at the last moment he gives to his dog. (laughter) There are many instances, you know better than me. He has no, nobody even, because they do not marry, no children, no friend, so the dog is the best friend in Western country. Every gentleman must have this best friend, pet dog. So ultimately, because there is nobody to give, he gives it to the dog. Makes a will that my dog will get it and they’ll give him jewelry, ornaments and so on, so on, so on. We have got practical experience, the big palace which we have purchased in Detroit, the man did not marry, so ultimately he bequeathed the whole estate to the dog. (laughter) And there is a tomb of the dog. (laughter) So, one has to do it. If he does not do it for God, then he will have to do it ultimately to the dog. So better, so long you have got money, spend it for God. San-nimitte varam tyago vinase niyate sati(?). This is the instruction of Canakya Pandita, that whatever money you have got, it will be spent. You cannot keep it. Either the money will go from you, or you have to go from the money. You cannot keep together. That is not possible. If you don’t spend the money for Krsna, if you keep it, that “I shall see it. I shall lick up this money and become happy…” Krpana, that those who are miser, they do not spend money for Krsna but they see the money. Therefore it has become a problem for us, how to spend the money. How to spend the money for Krsna, that is our policy. We do not want to keep money. We cannot keep, that is not possible. Somebody will take it. Ultimately the government will take. Better spend it for Krsna. Spend it for Krsna that is the right use. San-nimitte varam tyago vinase niya… Canakya Pandita, he was great politician, he is advising that if you have got money, spend it for Krsna. Don’t keep it. Spend it for Krsna. Why? It will be spoiled. Today or tomorrow it will be spoiled. Somebody will take and spoil it. Better, if you spend it for Krsna, at least your service will be recognized. Krsna will see that this man is spending his hard-earned money for Me. That is called ajnata-sukrti. This service to Krsna, this inclination, does not arise unless one is very, very, good asset he has got.

761031SB.VRN Lectures 225144/530501 kotibhih sukrti(?). This desire that I shall serve Krsna, it is not ordinary thing. Na janma kotibhih sukrtibhir labhyate. But it is possible if we accumulate this sukrti, all right little service, little service, little service. Therefore the preacher’s business is to engage these fools and rascals, who are very enthusiastic in the activities of sense gratification. If they are somehow or other engaged in Krsna’s service, they accumulate sukrti, sukrti.

761101SB.VRN Lectures 225153/530501 agreed, “All right, let us leave this place.” So immediately, they transferred the whole village with their possessions, cloth or something, everything, within one hour. And they transported by the bullock cart to Nandagrama. That means, the idea is the whole village was transferred from one village to another within very short time. So the transport is required, the transport by bullock carts. s

761101SB.VRN Lectures 225153/530501 there. So nature’s arrangement, God’s arrangement is there. Transport is required in the human society, but you can utilize so many animals for your purpose. But at the present moment, ugra-karma. The transport is there, but they have manufactured big, big buses for transport, big, big cars, and the animals, they are now killed and eat. That’s all. This is civilization. This is civilization. Not to reduce the labor, but increase the labor. Therefore they are called ugra-karma, jagatah hita, and that will create disastrous condition of the human society. This is discussed in Bhagavad-gita.

761102SB.VRN Lectures 225184/530501 So these are the items we should, nirvaira-samyopasamena putra jihasaya deha-geha. This is also one of the important items, that I am executing devotional service, but I have no detachment from my family life. The bhakti-yoga means bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat. That is bhakti-yoga. Everyone can test, “How much I have become detached from my, this worldly affection. This is my family, this is my country, this is my society, this is my son, this is my wife, this is my children.” This is moha. Janasya moho ‘yam aham mameti, we have to give up this. If we have not been able to give up this attachment, worldly attachment, that means we are not making any progress. Therefore it is said clearly, deha-gehatma. Eh? Buddheh. What is that? Jihasaya deha-gehatma-buddheh. Atma-buddheh. Deha-gehatma-buddheh. Everyone is thinking “I am this body.” Everyone is thinking, “This is my country,” nationalism. “This is my socialism.” “I am brahmana, I belong to the brahmanas,” “I belong to the ksatriyas.” “I belong to America.” “I belong to India.” This is deha-gehatma-buddheh, and yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. Anyone who is thinking like that, deha-gehatma, sa eva go-kharah, he is no better than the cows and the asses, animal. Deha-gehatma-buddheh is animal conception. One has to come to understand that “I am not this body, I am not this mind or intelligence.” Aham brahmasmi, I am part and parcel of Krsna, Param Brahman..

761102SB.VRN Lectures 225186/530501 sruti-smrti-puranadi- pancaratra-vidhim vina aikantiki harer bhaktir utpatayaiva kalpate

There are so many they have invented. Just like Hare Krsna mantra is prescribed in the sastras, and they have invented so many. Although there is the name of the Supreme Lord, still you have to follow the sastra. If you say Rama Rama Rama, Radhe Radhe Radhe, Krsna, there are so many mentioned. That is also name, but you have to follow the sastra. Sastra says:

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

You have to take that. Not that you can say, nitai-gaura radhe-syama, hare krsna hare rama, no. Why? Is there any in the sastra? No, you have invented. What is the value of your invention? You are not perfect. But they like that “It is my guru, I have got some followers, I invent some type of chanting.” This is nonsense. You must follow, mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You cannot invent…

761103SB.VRN Lectures 225202/530501 The story of the potter The potter is planning. He has got few pots and he is planning, “Now I have got these four pots and I will sell. I will make some profit. Then there will be ten pots. Then I’ll sell ten pots, I’ll make some profit. I’ll get twenty pots and then thirty pots, forty pots. In this way I shall become millionaire. And at that time I shall marry, and I shall control my wife in this way and that way. And if she is disobedient, then I shall kick her like this.” So when he kicked, he kicked the pots and all the pots broke. (laughter) So then his dream is gone. You see? Similarly, we are simply dreaming. With few pots we are simply dreaming that “These pots will be increased into so many pots, so many pots, so many pots,” then finished. Don’t make imagination, make plan. That is… The guru, the spiritual master and the government should be careful that “These rascals may not make plan. This rascal may not make plan to be happy.” Na yojayet karmasu karma-mudhan. This is karma-jagat, this world. This material world is that. They are already inclined, so what is the use? Loke vyayayamisa-madya-seva nityastu jantuh. Just like sex life. Sex life is natural. It does not require any university education how to enjoy sex. They will enjoy it. Nobody… “Nobody is taught how to cry or how to laugh or how to enjoy sex life.” There is a Bengali saying. That is natural. You don’t require any education for this karma. Now they are making big, big plans to educate people how to work hard. This is waste of life. Educational institution should be for teaching people how to become Krsna conscious, not to become this or that. That is waste of time, because that program will never be successful. Tal labhyate duhkhavad anyatah sukham kalena sarvatra gabhira-ramhasa. The nature’s law is working Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah. Whatever Therefore our Vedic civilization is that people are satisfied in his own position, a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. Whatever by God’s grace he got, he was satisfied. The real energy was utilized how to become eligible to receive mercy of Krsna. That is wanted, how to learn how to surrender to Krsna. Then aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. That was the end. In India we find not that… The great sages, rsis, they wrote so many books, but they used to live in a cottage. Only the kings, the ksatriya, because they had to rule over, they used to construct big, big palaces. No one else. They lived very simple life, very simple life. Not waste time for so-called economic development, skyscraper building, subways and so on, so on. This was not Vedic civilization. This is asuric civilization.

761103SB.VRN Lectures 225204/530501 how. So Krsna will be very much pleased if you simply… Krsna says… Here it is said that mal-loka-kamah. How one can go to Krsnaloka or Vaikunthaloka? Very easy. Very easy. Krsna personally says. It is not our manufactured word. Krsna said, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru. Do these four things: “Always think of Me.” That is Krsna conscious. Manmana bhava mad-bhaktah: “Become My devotee. Worship Me and offer obeisances to Me,” and asamsaya, “you’ll come.” Mal-loka. Very good. Very easy thing. Asamsaya. “Without any doubt you’ll come to Me.” Why do they not accept this proposal of Krsna? It is not our manufacture. We are not washing brain. It is Krsna’s word, that simply by doing four things, manmana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru mam evaisyasi asamsayah, without any doubt. That is required. Krsna will be pleased.

761106SB.VRN Lectures 225263/530501 you are delivered, you are liberated. Just like you will find one aeroplane is going up and up, up, up, and at a time you will find the aeroplane is no more seen (indistinct). That does not mean he has merged in the sky. He has got a separate existence, but you cannot see. Even one has got so high, it does not mean that he has merged into the sky. If he does not get another shelter, he will come back again. He will come back again. He has not merged. There is no question of merging. Brahmajyoti means the…, it is the combination of millions and trillions of sparks of living entities. That is brahmajyoti. They are not mixed up. They are just like the sunshine. The sunshine, it is not one homogeneous substance. There are millions and trillions of shining particles. Combination is called sunshine. It is not that they are merged. Similarly, every individual soul is individual. Krsna says, “Arjuna, you, Me, and all these soldiers and kings, they were existing before, they are now existing now, and they will continue to exist in the future.” So where is mixture? You, me, and all of you, we are different individuals, and Krsna says–not ordinary person–that “They were individuals in the past, they are individual now, and they will continue to become individual.” So where is this question of merging? There is no question of merging. Mamaivamso jiva-bhutah jiva-loka sanatanah, eternally they are individuals, and eternally they will keep individual.

■761108SB.VRN Lectures 225311/530501 And if you are really advanced in knowledge, then panditah sama-darsinah. Then you are actually pandita, not falsely to be called pandita and number one fool. That is not pandita. Panditah sama-darsinah. The defect of the modern civilization is that there is no pandita. All rascals. All rascals. Therefore they have demarcated, “This is India,” “This is America.” No. Everything belongs to Krsna. Then there will be peace. If in the United Nation they simply pass one resolution with determination, that “The whole planet belongs to Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and we are all His sons,” there is no trouble. There is no scarcity. Krsna has created this world in such a way

761108SB.VRN Lectures 225317/530501 So if we actually formulate peace formula, then everything is possible. Simply we have to accept the instruction of Krsna. Our Krsna consciousness movement is for this purpose. We are simply requesting to accept the Krsna philosophy. Then the whole world will be peaceful. There is no doubt about it.

bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram suhrdam sarva-bhutanam jnatva mam santim rcchati

These rascals, their mentality is like the dogs, and they are making United Nation. A dog can be united? Is it possible? No. You bring several dozens of best dog and ask them, “Please live peacefully. We shall give you food, everything.” It is not in their capacity to live peacefully. So even there is already ample economic development, sufficiency, but because the mentality is doggish, the so-called farce of United Nation, they are fighting with one another. It is not possible. 761109SB.VRN Lectures 225342/530501 Just like in the Vaikunthaloka, that is… But in the material world, when one is not covered by the gross body but subtle body, they are called ghosts or pramathas. Those who are good, not harmful, they are called pramathas. And those who are harmful… As in this material world there are good men and bad men, similarly, amongst the persons who has no this gross body, they are sometimes called ghosts and sometimes they are called pramatha. So in this way, varieties of life, beginning from the insects and the aquatics, animal, up to the point of Lord Brahma. But they are all within this material world. It does not mean because the Gandharvas, Siddhas, they have got higher standard of life and power hundreds and thousands times more than our power, do not think that they are liberated persons. They are not liberated person. They are all conditioned soul.

761109SB.VRN Lectures 225346/530501 protkhata-damstrayate. And indriya samyamah, the yogis, they are trying to control the senses. Yoga indriya sam… That is the real purpose. Our indriyas are so disturbing, just like kala-sarpa. You are sitting here. If one snake comes, immediately you’ll be all disturbed, immediately. So to… Disturbing why? Because every one of us, we know, “Here is a kala-sarpa.” Kala-sarpa means anyone it bites, immediately death. Immediately death. But this kala-sarpa is dreadful, vicious, so long the fangs are there. Protkhata damstrayate. If the fangs, the poison fangs, are taken away, or if you know, “Here is a snake, but the snake’s fangs have been taken away,” you’ll not be afraid. Visa hina sarpah. Visa hina sarpah. So for a devotee this kala-sarpa-paali automatically subdued because they do not use the senses for sense gratification. They are engaged in the service of Krsna. If our senses are engaged in the service of Krsna, the poisonous fangs are taken away. It is no more dreadful. There is no need of practicing indriya samyamah. Indriya samyamah automatically. One who is Krsna conscious, he is not disturbed. Just like Haridasa Thakura. He did not go to control the senses, but because he was chanting… He practiced chanting. A beautiful prostitute at dead of night offered her body to be enjoyed. He said, “Yes, I shall satisfy you. Please sit down. Let me finish my chanting.” This is kala-sarpa-paali protkhata-damstrayate. He was not even agitated. This is the benefit of becoming a favorite servant of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Thank you very much. (end)

761110SB.VRN Lectures 225354/530501 So Rsabhadeva is teaching us what is the value of brahminical culture. Human society without brahminical culture is animal society. We offer our obeisances to the Lord, namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya ca. Krsna is first of all interested to see whether in the society the brahmana and the cow is properly respected. Namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya ca. His first business is to see that the brahmana and cow is being properly honored. Then jagad-dhitaya. Then automatically the whole world will be peaceful. This secret of success they do not know. Nobody is prepared to become brahmana, and so far cow protection is concerned, it is in the oblivion. This is the whole world position. Therefore it is in chaotic condition. It must be, because this is animal society. When these two things are neglected, it is animal society, and then other animal qualities and paraphernalia follow.

761110SB.VRN Lectures 225357/530501 Unless we control the base qualities, namely the modes of ignorance and passion, you cannot be happy. It is not possible. Tato rajas-tamo-bhavah. Rajas tamo-bhavah means kama and lobha. So long I have lusty desire and so long I have greediness to acquire more and more and more, to enjoy senses more and more That is greediness. One should be satisfied, the minimum possible. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca samanyam etat pasubhir naranam. Ahara means eating. Ahara, nidra, sleeping, and fearing, and sense enjoyment. These are required, but not for increasing but decreasing. Just like when a person is diseased he should not eat as he likes. Because he is diseased, doctor prescribes that “You take little barley water or glucose, no solid food, if you want to be cured.” Similarly, these things are necessity so long this body is there. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. But this should be decreased, not increased. That is human civilization, not to increase. Just like the Gosvamis in Vrndavana. They did not come here to increase ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. No. They came here to decrease. Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau. That is wanted. This is Vrndavana-vasi, not that to live in Vrndavana and increase this ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithuna. This is not Vrndavana-vasa. The monkeys are also living in Vrndavana, and the dogs are also and hogs are living in Vrndavana. But they do not know how to decrease ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam. You’ll see the monkeys. They are also in Vrndavana. But you’ll find one male monkey followed by three dozen female monkeys. That is not vrndavana-vasa. Ahara-nidra. That means it requires brahminical culture, damo, samo. That is wanted. That is brahminical culture. Unfortunately the present civilization, they are not meant for decreasing. They are simply increasing. The Western civlization means increasing the means of sense gratification, “machine, machine, machine, machine.” So, and the brahminical culture means samo damo titiksa. Titiksa means without something I may suffer. Suffer. So one should be practiced to suffer. Suffer, that is tapasya. Tapasa brahmacaryena. Tapasya begins from celibacy. We are practiced to sex life or sense gratification. Tapasya means first of all stop this. Tapasa brahmacaryena. This is practice. So to become fit for going back to home, back to Godhead, it is not so easy. It is not so easily… We have to make our material life almost zero. Not almost zero–practically zero. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. That is wanted, practice. Therefore this, our Krsna consciousness..

761110SB.VRN Lectures 225361/530501 In European and American cities we have seen how people are working very hard, beginning from morning at five o’clock till four o’clock next night, for sense gratification. So this is not civilization. This is condemned civilization. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye. This is not civilization. This is animal civilization, working so hard day and night for eating. That is the business of the hogs and dogs. You will find the hogs and dog, they are loitering on the street whole day and night: “Where is food? Where is sex?” That is not civilization. They must be peaceful brahmana. Of course, not that everyone can be elevated to the position of a brahmana, but at least they must have the chance to see that “Here is a class of men, brahmana.” That is wanted. Otherwise the civilization is failure. Therefore it is said, na brahmanais tulaye bhutam anyat. Actual brahmana, not the so-called brahmana, that was the Vedic culture. Just like Krsna Himself. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. When He received Sudama Vipra, a brahmana, He immediately vacated His own seat: “My dear friend, sit down here.” And Krsna’s first wife? Devotee: Rukmini. Prabhupada: Rukmini. He (she) took immediately the camara. He (she) said, “My husband is respecting.” But he was dressed very poorly, lean and thin. Brahmana, because they refuse unnecessary necessities of life, sometimes they look very poor, poverty-stricken. They are not poverty-stricken. They are the richest. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim sritah, bhajanty ananya-manaso. Those who are engaged in bhajana never think of their poverty. No. They are not poor. Otherwise, if Sudama Vipra, externally he looked very poor, lean and thin, not very nice cloth… Krsna is: “My dear friend, sit down here.” He brought water, washed the feet, just respectable person, guru, brahmana. This is etiquette. Krsna is showing personally. He is the king. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He also respects a brahmana. When Narada used to come to Krsna, immediately He would get down from the seat and offer obeisances, and Narada was smiling, “Just see Krsna’s lila.” So this is the way, brahmana. That brahmana, the India, the brahmanas, their sons later on, later ages, taking advantage of the facility offered to the brahmanas, so without qualification of brahmana, they wanted the facility for nothing, very cheap. Therefore the brahminical culture is failure now. They are… They should be real brahmanas, ssamo damo. But nobody is prepared to practice samo damo titiksa, but he wants the respect of a brahmana. This is the cause of India’s culture being failure at the present moment. They… “First deserve, then desire.” So without deserving, they desired. Therefore whole thing is…, it became false. So that is not the purpose. Even somebody says that “Without culture one can remain a brahmana,” but sastra does not say that. Sastra says culture is the first consideration.

yasya hi yad laksanam proktam varnabhivyanjakam yady anyatrapi vinirdrsyeta tat tenaiva vinirdiset So laksanam must be, laksanam, the symptom, what is brahmanas’ symptoms. So my request to you, the Europeans and American boys, you have been initiated as brahmana but you must practice the laksana. Otherwise, if you think, puffed up, that “Now I have got the sacred thread. My business is finished. I can do whatever I like,” no. That is not. Laksanam. Laksanam means symptoms. That you must observe, laksanam. Yasya hi yad laksanam proktam. Then nobody can check you. You will be very much dear of Krsna. Namo brahmanya-devaya go brahmana-hitaya ca. If you keep yourself in the platform of a true brahmana as you are expected… It is not difficult. We have selected the four principles: no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication, and no gambling. That’s all. If you keep to these practices, then you remain. And if you chant, then above brahmana, you become Vaisnava. Manmana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru. Qualify yourself as a brahmana. Qualify yourself as a Vaisnava. Then your position is guaranteed. Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati. Sure. Guranteed.

761110SB.VRN Lectures 225361/530501 That is called greediness. The Vedic civilization teaches that “Be satisfied with the minimum necessities of life. Don’t increase unnecessary necessities of life, and then you have to work for it very hard like hogs and dogs.” That’s all. Then you have to work very… Modern world, they have increased their unnecessary necessities of life, and therefore you’ll find how hard working. In European and American cities we have seen how people are working very hard, beginning from morning at five o’clock till four o’clock next night, for sense gratification. So this is not civilization. This is condemned civilization. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye. This is not civilization. This is animal civilization, working so hard day and night for eating.

761111SB.VRN Lectures 225377/530501 The bhakti-yoga we are teaching in this Krsna consciousness movement twenty-four hours’ engagement. Superficially we engage from four o’clock in the morning till ten o’clock at night, and that is resting time. But when one is advanced in devotional service, while sleeping he also serves Krsna. That means twenty-four hours, satatam. That depends on Because in sleeping you also dream, so what we do during daytime we dream at night. So if one is cent percent engaged in Krsna’s service, naturally he’ll dream also at night. I have seen one of our intimate relative. He was a businessman, selling cloth. So in dream also he was quoting price of cloth. So that is natural. That is not unnatural. Therefore we have to practice. At the time of death, somehow or other, if we quote the price of Krsna, then our life are successful. Therefore we should practice: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram. If we practice Krsna, then naturally it is expected that at the time of death we remember Krsna. Then immediately we are transferred to the Krsnaloka, immediately. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti. Immediately. There is no doubt about it. Simple thing, but it requires practice.

761111SB.VRN Lectures 225378/530501 Vasudevah sarvam iti. That is pure sattva, when there is no other conception, simply Vasudeva. Vasudeva is the platform. Just like Vasudeva was the father of Krsna. When Krsna appeared, Vasudeva was the father. So suddha-sattva is Vasudeva. Vasudeva means there is no contamination of ignorance or passion, simply sattva-guna. Tato rajas tamo bhava kama-lobhadayas ca ye, ceta etair anaviddham. When your mind and consciousness will not be contaminated by the modes of ignorance and passion, that is suddha-sattva. That is suddha-sattva. That is spiritual platform, vasudeva. Then Vasudeva will beget Krsna. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam. So if we purify our existence, another Krsna comes or Krsna’s devotees come. They come in suddha-sattva. Sattvam paramam pavitram

761114SB.VRN Lectures This child is so crying. From three miles we can hear. Balanam rodanam balam. This is strength of the children, crying. They can disturb the whole world (laughter) simply by crying. So just see. This is the body, immediately. You cannot cry like that. Even if you are aggrieved, you cannot cry so loudly that up to four miles one can hear. That is not possible. Why it is not possible? Because he has got a different body and you have got a different. Everything is going on according to the body. This is maha-vimoha. This is going on, 8,400,000’s of different forms of body…

761114SB.VRN Lectures 225434/530501

se rase majiya, mukhe bolo hari hari. This is instruction, that we can chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, we can chant the holy name of the Lord, purely, without offense. Because if we can chant Hare Krsna maha-mantra once only–if it is pure–then immediately you become liberated. Ekara hari name yata papa hare, papi haya tata papa karibare nare. Harinama is so powerful that once chanting, immediately vanquishes the accumulated sinful reaction of millions of lives. Papi haya tata papa karibare. Every papi, sinful man, is very expert in committing sinful activities. But harinama is so expert that once chanted, the papi, the sinful man, will be failure to commit sin anymore. But the difficulty is that we cannot come to the pure stage of chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Due to our past habits our mind is disturbed. We cannot concentrate. Therefore we have fixed up the minimum. We cannot imitate Haridasa Thakura. That is not possible. If somebody imitates Haridasa Thakura… We can see this chanting Hare Krsna and smoking bidi. We can understand what is the position. The offense is going on. Therefore we should try to avoid the ten kinds of offenses. Of course, in the beginning the offenses will continue. But chanting, chanting, chanting, chanting, as soon as we become purified Ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam. By chanting, chanting, chanting repeatedly, when our, the core of heart will be cleansed, ceto-darpana-marjanam, then immediately bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam, this maha-vimoha…

761115SB.VRN Lectures 225461/530501 Kanistha-adhikari, he worships the Deity, but he does not know how to do good to others, neither he knows who is devotee. In the kanistha-adhikara, in the lower stage of devotional service, one cannot distinguish. But he should be engaged fully in Deity worship so that gradually he will develop his maha-bhagavata stage. And madhyama-adhikari means he knows how to make others hari-jana, or devotee.

isvare tad-adhinesu balisesu dvisatsu ca prema-maitri-krpa upeksa yah karoti sa madhyamah

He not only worships the Deity wholeheartedly… That is prema. Isvare prema. But beyond that, tad adhinesu–he knows how to respect the devotees, tad adhinesu, isvara adhinesu. That means other devotees. Then he becomes madhyama-adhikari. If he simply takes care of the Deity worship and if he does not offer respectful behavior to another devotee, he is kanistha-adhikari. He is in the lower stage. So isvare tad adhinesu. He must see that “Here is a devotee.” He must have power to see that “here is a devotee”.

761117SB.VRN Lectures 225504/530501 It is not possible nowadays to imitate Rsabhadeva. Just like the Jains, they imitate that. What their imitation…? Not a single Jain up till now has become perfectly in the renounced order of life. So they say so. It was imitated by one king in the South India, and he is the originator, propounder of the Jainism. They say. But you cannot imitate Rsabhadeva. That is not possible in this age. Better try to follow the instruction of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Krsna. Your life will be perfect.

761120SB.VRN Lectures 225556/530501 So here is incarnation of God, Rsabhadeva. Now there are so many rascal incarnation. Is it possible to pass stool and make it surabhi? Is it possible? So you can ask these rascals incarnation that “Pass your stool here. Let us see first of all. Then we shall accept you.” Practical. “We are fools and rascals. We want practical test.” So sastra-caksusah. This is the injunction, sastra. Here is sastra, that the incarnation of God, even He passes stool, it is fragrant. He can do it. That is God. That practically you can see, that the cow dung… Cow dung, you can make a stack of cow dung here. It will never disturb you. You’ll, rather, feel pleasure, passing through that portion of field where cow dung is stacked. You’ll never feel any disturbance because it is pure. Cow dung… We have discussed this point many times. Where it is impure, that it makes pure. In Indian villages, still they use cow dung for smearing over the floor, and it becomes very nice, fresh, and purified. That is injunction of the sastra, that cow dung is pure. So if by the will of Krsna, by the arrangement of Krsna, even an animal’s stool can become so purified, what to speak of Krsna’s stool?

761120SB.VRN Lectures 225558/530501 Krsna in truth. It requires time. He… Not all of a sudden you can understand. But if you stick to devotional service, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah, then He reveals. When you engage your tongue… It is also wonderful. To understand Krsna, you require your tongue. Generally we understand by seeing or by hearing. Hearing is there, but here it is recommended tongue, especially. Why tongue is used? Because if you simply chant Hare Krsna by your tongue and taste Krsna prasadam, you will understand Krsna. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah. If you make it a promise that “I shall not talk anything except Krsna’s message,” and if you promise that “I shall not take anything which is not offered to Krsna,” these two things, this prasadam and chanting, will make you perfect to understand Krsna.

761122SB.VRN Lectures 225606/530501 shall continue to be individuals.” There is no question of oneness. Oneness means to agree to serve Krsna. That is oneness. There is no disobedience, “Whatever You say, I accept”–that is oneness. Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. That is oneness. At the present moment we differ. We make differences. “Here is the opinion of the American. Here is the opinion of Indian. Here is the opinion of the German. Here is the opinion of the sudra, and so on, so on. So here means disagreement, always disagreement. Because I am envious of you, you are envious of me, so how there can be agreement? So wherefrom this enviousness has begun? Because we are envious of Krsna. Because we are envious of Krsna–“Why Krsna become God? I am also God.” This is the beginning of enviousness, this rascaldom, that “Why Krsna shall become alone God?” He said, mam ekam saranam. “Why Krsna alone?” They say, the rascal philosophers say, ‘This is sophistry. It is demanding too much. Mam ekam saranam vraja. Why? Why shall I accept You as the Supreme?” This enviousness begins. This is the beginning of envy. So we become envious, each other. I am envious of you, you are envious of me. So this Krsna consciousness is not meant for the envious persons. It is meant for very liberal, panditah sama-darsinah. One who has become sama-darsinah, he is perfectly learned. And that is very difficult. It is meant for them. Dharmah projjhita-kaitavo atra paramo nirmatsaranam. It is not meant for such bhangi (?), one who thinks that “My Hinduism is better than your Muhammadanism,” or he thinks, “My Muhammadanism is better than your Hinduism.” The matsaratam, it is in religious platform… There is matsara. That matsarata dharma, that kind of religious system… Just like there are everywhere the same thing. In Ireland the fighting is going on between the Protestants and the Catholics. Is it not? Going on continuously. Now it has become so dangerous that you cannot walk on the street. At any moment there will be bombs. Last time when I was in London I had the experience. All of a sudden our car was diverted. The police came: “There is bomb. You cannot go there.” So this is going on. In London, in Germany, and other places it has become a terrible place. At any moment there can be bomb. And what is the bombing? The fight between the Catholics and the Roman Catholics and Protestants. Just like we have got experience, Pakistan and India, in 1947. Calcutta itself became divided into two, Pakistan and Hindustan. Nobody was going. There is one big road, Chitpoor Road. So up to Hanson Road, it is Hindustan, and after that, it is Pakistan. The Pakistanis did not dare to come to this side. So this is matsara. The matsarata, enviousness, that is the nature of this material world. Therefore Krsna consciousness, krsna-bhakti-rasa-bhavita-matih, it is very, very rare. Rupa Gosvami said, “This rare thing, if you can purchase, do it immediately wherever available.”

761123SB.VRN Lectures 225634/530501 So those who are atma-rama, those who have taken to the bhakti-yoga, their karma-phala is finished. Karmani nirdahati kintu ca bhakti-bhajam. They are not… The devotee may be observed that he’s also engaged in ordinary work. He’s also printing books and selling them and maintaining mathas and temples. “So he is also doing business.” No, that is not business. That is bhakti. Sometimes bhakti appears to be like ordinary karma, but it is not karma. It is karma in this way, that the same peas, it looks like peas, but if you sow it, it will not produce anymore. Bharjitani. Ava-bharjitani. Yajnarthe karmano ‘nyatra loko ‘yam karma-bandhanah. If you work for Krsna, it appears to be ordinary work, but it is not ordinary work. It is not the cause of bandhanah. But if you work for Krsna, there is no more karma-bandhanah. Karmani nirdahati ca kintu ca bhakti-bhajam. All others… Yas tv indragopam maha indra… There is a germ, it is called indragopa. From indragopa to that Indra the King of heaven, everyone is bound up by the laws of karma. Everyone is bound up. But a bhakta is not bound up. How he can be bound up? Because as soon as he surrenders to Krsna, Krsna gives him assurance, aham tvam sarvapapebhyo moksayisyami; immediately finish…

761124SB.VRN Lectures 225657/53050 “Never trust woman and politician.” So Canakya Pandita was not inexperienced; he was very experienced. All the slokas of Canakya Pandita–very useful for daily affairs. So similarly, we should not trust the mind, that “Now I have become liberated.” Never think so. We should always remember that liberation is not so easy thing, but if we follow the rules and regulation, then there is every possibility of becoming liberated…

761125SB.VRN Lectures 225685/530501 If you keep always within your mind Krsna, Krsna’s lotus feet, you can see Krsna’s lotus feet, Deity, Baladeva, Balarama, how He is nicely standing… You can see the nice lotus feet. Don’t try to see the face all of a sudden. Try, practice to see the lotus feet constantly. Sa vai manah krsna-padara… This is a chance. This temple means to practice how to think of Krsna’s lotus feet, Balarama’s lotus feet, always. Man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. Immediately you become bhakta. And as soon as you become a bhakta, kecit kevalaya bhaktya vasudeva-parayanah, dhunvanti agham krtsnam: all kinds of disturbances will be subsided, dhunvanti. Niharam iva bhaskarah. This is the sastra injunction.

761127SB.VRN Lectures 225727/530501 Therefore in the beginning, the neophyte devotees they should not try to understand the dealings of the gopis with Krsna. They should not try to understand. Unless one is free from the material concept, sarvopadhi vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam. That means we have to execute devotional service in the regulative principle. “I cannot follow the regulative principle and I am trying to understand Radha-Krsna prema,” this is rascaldom. This is rascaldom. Only rascals will do that. He does not see his position, that “What is my position? I am still full of lusty desires. My mind is still disturbed by seeing a nice woman or nice man, and I am discussing Radha-Krsna?” This is nonsense. Narottama dasa Thakura said, rupa- raghunatha pade haibe akuti kabe hama bujhabo se yugala-piriti. Unless you are expert in devotional service, by practical application of the instruction of Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu… Rupa-raghunatha pade haibe akuti. Then if we are qualified, then some day we may be able to understand what is yugala-piriti, love between Krsna and Radharani. Not so sudden. That is sahajiya. Not so sudden. We should not try to do that. First of all I must see how much I have become sarvopadhi vinirmuktam, how much I am free from the designational position. Then we shall be able.

761128SB.VRN Lectures 225732/530501 Pradyumna: “Lord Rsabhadeva was the head of all kings and emperors within this universe, but assuming the dress and language of an avadhuta, He acted as if dull and materially bound. Consequently, no one could observe His divine opulence. He adopted this behavior just to teach yogis how to give up the body. Nonetheless, He maintained His original position as a plenary expansion of Lord Vasudeva, Krsna. Remaining always in that state, He gave up His pastimes as Lord Rsabhadeva within the material world. If, following in the footsteps of Lord Rsabhadeva, one can give up his subtle body, there is no chance that one will accept a material body again.” Prabhupada.. So this is also opulence of Krsna. Jadavad avadhuta-vesa. Although He is the proprietor, sarva-loka-mahesvaram, still, this is another opulence, how to become renounced. This is another opulence. It is as good as the other opulences. Aisvaryasya samagrasya……queens, and millions of descendants, yadu-vamsa. This is another side, and this is another side, vairagya. Jnana-vairagya. Jnana. We can understand a little piece of His contribution of jnana, Bhagavad-gita. That is a little piece of His stock of knowledge. Five thousand years He spoke, and still it is being continued, not only in India, but also all over the world. This is jnana. So anyway–strength. When He was seven years old, Krsna, He lifted the Govardhana Hill. Jnana- vairagya, everything complete. That is God. Nothing less. Not that, that “I am rich man, but I cannot lie down on the street.” Not that kind of vairagya. He is complete, completely different from a rich person. Akhila-loka-pala. He is the controller of the whole universe; still, you see His vairagya.

761128SB.VRN Lectures 225743/530501 But here Krsna as Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Krsna as Rsabhadeva, Krsna as Krsna Himself, They are teaching us how to become pure devotee, because sva kalevaram jihasur atmanah. Before leaving your, this body, you must be self-realized. That is the aim of life. Bahunam janmanam ante. We have got this life, human form of life, and how to utilize this human form of life? How to achieve the vairagya-vidya? This is vairagya-vidya, no more interest in material things. That is vairagya-vidya. Even to the body. That is… Rsabhadeva is teaching us. This is vairagya-vidya. Bhakti-yoga means vairagya. Caitanya Mahaprabhu also has spoken the same thing, niskincanasya bhagavad bhajanonmukhasya. Niskincanasya. If you actually want to become a pure devotee, then you have to make this material way of life completely zero. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Then it will be possible. If you have still a pinch of attraction for material life, then it will be stopped, your promotion to the other, spiritual world. Simply attachment to Krsna, that will make you advanced.

761128SB.VRN Lectures 225745/530501 So anyone who has accepted this material world as very comfortable… It is not comfortable; it is simply suffering. Krsna says, duhkhalayam asasvatam. And still, if we want to be happy in this material world, bahir-artha-maninah. These fools, they are trying to be happy within this material world. Material means external energy. Bahir-artha-maninah. Na te viduh svartha gatim hi visnum durasaya. This is durasaya, the hope which will never be fulfilled. But this we do not… Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan. So unless there is vairagya, there is no question of happiness. But we cannot attain vairagya immediately; therefore the vidhi-marga, vidhi-marga-bhakti, to rise early in the morning, to attend mangala arati, to offer Deity flowers, fruits, and in this way we shall be engaged twenty-four hours. Then vairagya-vidya will gradually develop. Anarthopasamam saksad bhakti-yogam adhoksaje. Then the anartha… This material life is simply anartha, has no meaning, because we are creating another life. Without any spiritual knowledge, if we simply give ourself to the action and reaction of material nature, then we are making progress on the path of mrtyu- samsara vartmani. And if we attain Krsna, then mam upetya kaunteya duhkhalayam asasvatam, napnuvanti. The two ways.

761128SB.VRN Lectures 225748/530501 Caitanya Mahaprabhu, to receive some blessings from the brahmanas, when He was boy He was voluntarily trying to give some service to the brahmanas who were engaged in bathing in the Ganges. He’ll clear the place because the brahmana, after taking bath in the Ganges, would sit down, would chant mantra. So He’ll cleanse and He’ll wash the cloth, and in… Voluntarily He was doing that, service. So one brahmana blessed Him, “My dear boy, You’ll be very happy in your family life. You’ll have good wife, very opulent position.” And Caitanya Mahaprabhu was blocking the ears. The brahmana said, “What is this?” “No, this is not blessing, sir.” “Oh, it is not blessing? Then You’ll never be happy in Your family life.” “Yes, this is the…” (laughter) “This is all right.” So therefore He took sannyasa. Arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam. Similarly, Lord Ramacandra, arya-vacasa yad agad aranyam. These are the characteristic of the Personality of Godhead. Try to follow Them, not imitate, but follow them.

761130SB.VRN Lectures 225773/530501 Similarly, the mercy cloud, karunya, karuna, ghanaghanatvam… So just like ordinary cloud is made possible by evaporating water from the sea, similarly, Krsna has the sea of mercy, karunayamaya, karuna-sagara. Krsna’s another name is Karuna-sagara. So as the air evaporate or the heat evaporate from the sea, and the cloud is formed in the sky, similarly, one who has connection or the power to evaporate the mercy sea of Krsna, he can extinguish the samsara davanala. And that is guru. Guru is the cloud or he is the agent of drying water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna and turn it into a mercy cloud and pour water on the samsara davanala, and then it is extinguished. Samsara davanala-lidha-loka-tranaya karunya-ghanaghanatvam, praptasya kalyana. Therefore guru must be authorized person, not that bhumi-phala-guru(?). No. “I am guru,” no. You cannot become guru unless you are agent to draw out the mercy water from the ocean of mercy of Krsna. That is guru. And therefore a guru is not an ordinary person. He is the representative, bona fide representative of Krsna. Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung, krsna se tomara, krsna dite para: “Vaisnava Thakura, Krsna is your property. If you like, you can give.” Vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau. You cannot get Krsna by studying Vedas. That is not possible. There is Krsna in the Vedas, but you cannot pick up. It is not possible. But if you go to the Krsna’s favorite person… Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Krsna’s very dear servant, confidential servant, is guru. Nobody can become guru unless he is in confidence of Krsna. Na ca tasmad manusyesu kascid me priya-krttamah. These things are there. Not that by magic one can become guru. No. .

761130SB.VRN Lectures 225779/530501 cannot be changed. God’s word cannot be changed. Then what will be the difference between God and ourself? He is always perfect. He is always perfect. What He said forty millions of years ago, what He said five thousand years ago, that is also correct up to date. That is sastra. Not that “So many years have passed and it has become old. Now let us reform it and put it into new way.” No. You can put the same thing in a new way, but you cannot change the principle. Sadhu sastra guru-vakya, tinete kariya aikya. Sastra is never changed. And the sadhu… Sadhu means who follows the sastras. He is sadhu. He also does not change. Sadhu, sastra. And guru? Guru means who follows the sastra and sadhu. So there are three, the same. A guru will not change, that “It was spoken five thousand years ago. That is not applicable now. Now I am giving you something new, jugglery.” He is useless. Sadhu sastra guru-vakya tinete kariya aikya. Yah sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama karatah, na siddhim avapnoti. These things are there.

761228SB.VRN Lectures 225791/530501 Sometimes bhakti is observed as similar to the activities of the karmis, but there is difference. One is bhakti, one is going back to home, back to Godhead; and the other is going forward to the hellish condition of life by the same activities. This is the technique. How it is possible? It is possible. By practical example, it is said in the sastras… Just like if you take more quantity of milk preparation, you get diarrhea. But the same milk preparation, yogurt, is there. It will stop diarrhea. Both of them are milk preparation. One has created the disease diarrhea, and another is stopping diarrhea. So why? Cikirsitam. One is by medical process and the other is without any medical process. The medical process is to satisfy Krsna. Here the building is being constructed to satisfy Krsna. To satisfy Krsna. And in other places the building is constructed to satisfy senses. This is the difference, material and spiritual. Material means to satisfy one’s senses. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti. Karma means they are working very hard like dogs and hogs, but the purpose is indriya-priti. Nunam pramattah: they are mad. They should not… And why mad? Because the karma means you are creating another body. And as soon as there is another body, dehantara-praptir, so long you have got this material body, you’ll suffer. That is the law of nature. Karmanu bandhah. Yavan priti mayi deve… tavat karmanu bandhanah. The karmanu-bandha will continue. Therefore in the sastra it is recommended, yajnarthe karma anyatra karma-bandhanah. Don’t act anything except for the satisfaction of Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. If you do anything for your sense gratification, that means you are being bound up by the laws of karma. Laws of karma, it is very strict according to the modes of activities. Purusah prakrti-stho hi bhunkte karma-jan gunan.

761229SB.BOM Lectures 225804/530501 But at the present moment people are so engrossed with material affairs that they are not interested even to hear or to talk about Krsna consciousness. That is not a very good sign. It is the feverish condition of durbhiksa. That is mentioned in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that people in general, when they come to the point of suffering from natural law, then they will revive their nitya-siddha krsna-bhakti. So therefore, as I was speaking in this morning, we have to elevate the human civilization from a platform which is on equal level with hog civilization. We should very carefully study and try to know whether the advancement of civilization which we have accepted is genuine. No. It is not genuine. It is misleading. Our aim of life is not to get a comfortable life for few years. Actually, there is no comfortable life. Still, we consider and forget our real business, self-realization. Apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu grha-medhinam.

750520SB.MEL Lectures 225821/530501 trees and plants, not moving. Then they move–flies, grasshoppers. And they turn into birds again, very freely flying. And there are many, many big birds in the sky, eagles. Some of the eagles, you have got experience. There are monkey-eating eagles. They capture the monkey. And there are eagles elephant-eating. (laughter) We get all this information. Elephant, they will capture elephant and take it away. (laughter) Just imagine. It is no joking. This is a fact. So there are so many birds, eagle birds, they fly, and they go from one planet to another. They are resting… Just like a bird you see, they fly from one tree to another tree. So their resting place is one planet to another. Just see. You are trying to go to the moon planet bogusly. I’ll say bogusly because you could not go there. The moon planet is far away from the sun planet. So it is not possible to go

750520SB.MEL Lectures 225832/530501 blood and urines and stool and kapha and mucus and so many things, if we consider this body as “I am, the soul,” do you mean to say that is very good knowledge? No. That is go-kharah. Go-kharah means animal. Go means cow and kharah means ass. So these animal think like that, “I am this body.” And if a man thinks like that, he is no better than the animal. That is not possible. Do you mean to say by combination of this blood, flesh, bones, urine, and stool and so many other things, you can, by combination, make a person like big scientist, philosopher, mathematician, by combination of these ingredients? Is it possible? Then there are much quantity of blood and flesh and this in the slaughterhouse. You bring and mix with them stool and urine and make a Professor Einstein. (laughter) You are advanced scientist. You bring this ingredient and make a very intelligent man. So this is all foolishness. Sa eva go-kharah. Anyone who thinks this body as the self, then he is in the animal kingdom. One, if anyone wants spiritual knowledge, he first of all know what is spirit, then spiritual knowledge. If you have no idea of spirit, what is the value of your spiritual knowledge? There is no value. Sa eva go-kharah. So this Krsna consciousness movement is giving that enlightenment, that you are not this body.

750520SB.MEL Lectures 225840/530501 If you want to go to the higher planetary system where the demigods live, you can go there. Therefore the karmis, by performing Vedic ritualistic ceremonies, they want elevation to the higher planetary system where the life, prolongation of life is very, very big. As we have got day and night, in the higher planetary system the waxing and waning moon, then when the moon is present there and the sky is in light, that is the day of the higher planetary system. And when the moon is dark, that is the night. That means our fifteen days, in the higher planetary system–twelve hours. Just imagine their year. And such ten thousands of years you can live if you can go to the moon planet. The day and night, fifteen days, your fifteen days, is equal to their one day. No, twelve hours. That means your one month is their one day. Now calculate one day, then thirty days, one month. Then twelve months equal to one year. Such ten thousands of years. Just imagine. You can go there and live like that, yanti deva-vrata devan, if you like. But that is not eternal life. After that long period, you have to die. So Krsna says janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. You are trying to avoid all kinds of miserable condition, but your real miserable condition is your birth, death, old age, and disease. Try to avoid it. That is perfection. That is spiritual life.

750520SB.MEL Lectures 225847/530501 Devotee (1): Srila Prabhupada, you were saying that because the body has arms and legs, then the coat has a similar shape. Then does the spirit soul that’s within our body have arms and legs like that? Prabhupada: Yes. Devotee (1): Would the spirit soul that is within, say, a cow’s body, is in a different shape? Prabhupada: Yes. It has got also legs. But the shape has taken according to his desire. Every animal has got these four things. Just like bird, it has got two wings, two legs. The animal has got four legs. And the man has got two hands, two legs. So the same parts of the body, they are appearing in a different type. But the four limbs of the body are there. Hm? Devotee (2): Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form? Madhudvisa: The question is that whether the eternal form of the spirit soul is a human form or is it… Prabhupada: Yes, human form. God is also human form. “Man is made after the shape of God.” I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs. Hari-sauri: How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms? Prabhupada: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul. Hari-sauri: They are covered in the spiritual world? Madhudvisa: He is asking if they were actually covered in the spiritual world as well. Prabhupada: Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that “As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna,” he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his…, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham. That is Krsna’s all-powerfulness, spiritual life.

750521SB.MEL Lectures 225929/530501 Prabhupada: Initiation is the third stage. First stage is that… Just like you have come. This is called sraddha, faith, little faith, not full faith. Then you have to increase this faith by association of devotee. That is required. And when the faith is increased, then the question of initiation. Initiation should not be immediately offered. That will be misused. Therefore when we initiate, we inquire from the head of the temple, “How long he is coming? What is his behavior?” If he certifies that “Yes, he is doing nice,” then we initiate. Our initiation is not so cheap, “You come and be initiated.” No, we do not do that. We must test you first of all. Then we initiate. Madhudvisa: His question was that can you take initiation by accepting the spiritual master in your heart without actually taking… Prabhupada: These are bogus proposition. It has no meaning. (laughter) It has no meaning. If you think within yourself, “I am eating,” will you be satisfied? You starve and simply think, “I have eaten everything.” (laughter) Is that very practical proposal? You must eat. We don’t say all these bogus proposition. All right. Thank you very much. (end)

760505SB.HON Lectures 225937/530501 the same thing, as cats and dogs are trying. The cats and dogs, they are also trying to find out where it is, food, where sleeping comfort, where sex life, and where defense. If the human form of life is also utilized for this purpose, pravrtti-marga, then it is, as I was talking in the park, it is just like using sandalwood for burning fuel. There is distinction even in wood. There are so many jungle wood, we can use it for cooking. But if the sandalwood, which is so valuable, if we do not know what is the value of sandalwood, if we use it for cooking and burning… Similarly, if we use this human form of life exactly like the cats and dogs, simply for sense gratification, then we are committing suicide. The whole Vedic civilization means how to utilize this human form of life for better purposes. Even modern scientific point of view. Not scientific, but they say. Accepting their version… Just like Darwin’s theory: by evolution you come to the human form of life. what is after this form? Then they have no information. … Accepting that from monkey one becomes a human being, so what next life? If the evolution is… That is also accepted in the Padma Purana, 8,400,000 species, forms of life, and then we come to this human form of life. What is next? That is the question. But they have no knowledge. They have no sense. They cannot explain what is next. And there is next life. If by evolutionary process through the channel of so many species of life, 900,000 aquatics. Jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa… Two millions trees and plants, then 1100,000 insects, and one million species of birds, and then 33,000,000 species of animals, four-legged animals, pasu. And then we get this human form of life, especially civilized form of life. Then what is next? That question nobody inquires, neither there is answer by the so-called modern scientist, that what is next. But the answer is there. Answer is there in the Vedic literature that there is higher planetary system.

760506SB.HON Lectures 225955/530501 catus-padam. The animals which has no leg–that means which cannot move… The plants, the grass, the trees, they cannot move. They have got leg, but they cannot move. Their legs are made for eating. As your mouth is made for eating, the trees… Therefore they are called pada-pa. They drink water by the leg. This is God’s creation. You cannot think that how it is possible to drink water by the leg, but it is God’s creation. You see. You pour water on the leg of the tree; it becomes very luxuriant, healthy. So different. And so far God is concerned, He can eat with legs; He can see with hands; He can eat with eyes. That is God. That is God. Angani yasya sakalendriya-vrttimanti pasyanti panti kalayanti ciram jaganti. Angani, that is transcendental. He is not under any rule. He is not under any rule. If you say, “Why Krsna is eating by the eyes?” yes, that is Krsna. That is Krsna. If you offer something, Krsna, simply by seeing, He is eating. That is Krsna. And again if you say, “If He is eating, why the plate is full?” that is Krsna. Purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate. Krsna is not a hungry man like me, that “If you give Me something, I will eat everything, finished.” No. Krsna can take the whole plate; still it will remain the whole plate, for giving prasadam.

So try to understand Krsna in this way. And if you actually understand Krsna, you are liberated immediately. Janma karma ca divyam me yo janati tattvatah. How Krsna eats, how Krsna thinks, how Krsna works, if you understand all these things, then immediately you become liberated. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti. You immediately become. The only thing is we are rotting in this material world because we do not know Krsna. That is the… You’ll not be admitted in the spiritual kingdom unless you know Krsna, what He is. And as soon as you understand Krsna, you are fit–”

750522SB.MEL Lectures 226006/530501 Madhudvisa: We have been here for many lifetimes performing sinful activities. So is it possible to counteract all those sinful activities in one lifetime, or does it require many…? Prabhupada: One minute. That is Krsna consciousness movement. One minute. You are not reading Bhagavad-gita? What Krsna says? Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami: “You surrender unto Me. Give up your all business. I will give you relief from all sinful reaction immediately.” So it requires one minute. “My dear Krsna, I was forgotten. Now I understand. I fully surrender unto you.” Then you become immediately free from all sinful reactions. Without any reservation, without any politics, if you fully surrender, Krsna is assuring, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah. He reassures, “Don’t worry whether I will be able to give you relief from all reaction.” Ma sucah. “Finished, guaranteed. You do this.” So how much time it requires to surrender to Krsna? Immediately you can do that. Surrender means you surrender and work as Krsna says. That is surrender. What Krsna says to do? Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru. Four things: “You always think of Me, and you become My devotee, you worship Me, and offer your respect, full obeisances unto Me.” You do these four things? That is full surrender. Mam evaisyasi asamsaya: “Then you come to Me without any doubt.” Everything is there. Krsna has given everything fully. If you accept it, then life is very simple. There is no difficulty. Yes?

700103SB.LA Lectures 226045/530501 We understand that we are trying to be happy. Actually, this material world, there is no happiness, but to counteract the agency of distress, we accept, “That is happiness. That is happiness.” Just like I have no apartment, but to counteract this inconvenience, if I try my utmost to get a good apartment I feel, “Oh, now I am happy. I am happy.” What is this happiness? How long you shall remain in this apartment? Suppose you have got, purchased, now long you will live? So here happiness means to counteract the force of distress is called happiness. Actually there is no happiness. This is called maya. Just like I am in distressed condition, puzzled, I take some intoxication. This is called happiness. I remain in the same condition. After my intoxication is over, I come back again into the same condition, but I am thinking (I am) happy. This is called maya. Maya means… Ma means “not,” ya means “this.” “You are thinking like this, but it is not this.” This is called maya. You are thinking that you are happy, but you are not happy. So we are seeing that a criminal is arrested by the police and he is put into the prisonhouse. We know that he is put into trouble, but still, in spite of seeing that “This kind of criminality will put me also into such kind of distress,” but still, I commit that thing. This is the influence of maya.

701106SB.BOM Lectures 226072/530501 You have read in the Caitanya-caritamrta that one Buddhimanta Khan, he was formerly… He was very rich man and Nawab Hussain Shah was the servant when he was not Nawab. So he was menial servant. So he stole some money as servants are generally habituated. So he whipped him with his cane. So that whipping stripe was on his back side. When he was Nawab, so his wife saw it and inquired, “What is this scar?” So he replied the whole story, that “I was formerly a menial servant to this Buddhimanta Khan and I did something wrong. So as my father, he punished me. That’s all. He was treating me as my son.” So he admitted that he was so kind. But his wife said, “Oh, this scar is a defamation. If somebody sees and you explain, then it will be known that you were a menial servant previously.” So the Nawab did not mind. He: “What is that? I may be… Now what I am, that’s all.” So the wife requested that “This man should be killed so that he may not disclose the secret of your life, that you were a menial servant in his house.” And “No, no, no. This is… This cannot be. He is just like my father. How can I kill him? This is not possible.” And just see. Then she advised, “At least make him Mohammedan. Convert him to be a Mohammedan.” In those days it was not very difficult. If somebody, a Mohammedan, takes water from his water pot and simply sprinkle in somebody’s body, he becomes Mohammedan. The Hindu society was so rascal. Still they are. Simply by sprinkling water from the pot of a Mohammedan he becomes Mohammedan. So this Nawab said, “All right, I shall sprinkle water. Let him do what he likes,” to satisfy his wife. So he did it. When he did it–then the society was so strong–he went to the bhattacarya to consult: “Oh, sir, I have been sprinkled water by a Mohammedan. So what prayascitta?” What is called? What is the English of prayascitta, compensation? Revatinandana: Some penance. Prabhupada: No, no. Atonement. “So what kind of atonement I have to do?” So the bhattacarya advised him that “You take one kilo of lead and melt it and drink it, and that is your atonement.” You see? So he said, “How it is possible?” “This is the atonement for such sinful activity. Yes.” Just see. For the last five hundred, six hundred years… Why…? For thousands of years the Hindu society is so fallen. Therefore so many Mohammedans have increased here. They are not imported. In this way the Hindu population, they have been forced to accept Mohammedan religion. You see? By the Mohammedans. Just like Aurangzeb. He imposed one tax for the Hindus. So all the poor men class, to avoid the tax they became Mohammedans. And there was so much punishment by the Hindus. And so he became a Mohammedan, so-called Mohammedan, by the diagnosis of the bhattacarya. So this kind of prayascitta was current during the fallen days of the Vedic society.

701106SB.BOM Lectures 226084/530501 You become Krsna conscious and commit all sinful activities, Krsna will give me protection.” And that will create certainly atheism: “What is this bogus thing?” But that does not mean… So, you surrender to Krsna. Krsna takes charge of your past sinful activities. But that does not mean that I shall remain Krsna conscious, at the same time I shall go on committing sin. This, for this facility, if anyone takes to Krsna consciousness, that is most sinful, that “I shall take to Krsna consciousness because whatever sinful activities I shall do, it will be counteracted by Krsna.” So that will create certainly atheism, that “What is this bogus talk?” Do you follow? Yes. But that is not meant for.

701106SB.BOM Lectures 226108/530501 Prabhupada: Climate also. The climate is very favorable. Now it is, of course, winter season. Otherwise, it will continue for two months only. It is not very severe, and still, this condition will not continue. Throughout the whole year you can remain naked body. There is no expenditure for dressing much. And to remain clean, you simply wash in the water, and immediately it is… So with one cloth or two cloths you can go on for six months. There is no much expenditure. And this vegetarian diet, if you take a few grains of this chick pea and little milk, you don’t require anything to eat. Everything, facility, is there still. But they have… The people are being trained up to imitate Western civilization. That is the government policy, that, “Unless you become Westernized, technologist, you’ll not be happy.” But they can become happy even in this condition. This artificial partition has caused some trouble by the Britishers because the Pakistan has taken away all the wheat and rice. Their purpose was that. The Punjab side, they are producing wheat in very large quantity. In Bengal, that is the, perhaps the biggest rice producing country in the world, Bengal. So rice is in Pakistan and wheat is in Pakistan. Even cows, they were maintained by the Punjabis, big, big cows, milk-producing. They are now in the Punjab. So there is no milk, there is no rice, there is no wheat. And they have no sugar. The sugar is produced this side. In this way, always. And the Kashmir question… That is British policy. Due to this partition only, India’s position is now very crippled. And these rascal leaders, they accepted partition for becoming prime minister. This policy. Gandhi never agreed. So the Jawaharlal Nehru, in order to become prime minister, he committed such a blunder. Therefore India is given… Still, if they keep to their original culture, they will not be

750608SB.HON Lectures 226254/530501 the temple. Tan-mandira-marjanadau. Don’t think that if one is engaged in the Deity worship and if one is engaged in the gardening work there is distinction. No. The one who is working as a gardener, he is as good as the one who is dressing the Deity, because it is Absolute plane. There is no difference between… Just like in the material world, if one is working as manager and the other is working as menial servant, there is difference of pay or difference of service. No. In the spiritual world there is no such thing. In the spiritual world even a small ant who is serving Krsna by chance… Suppose if there is an ant and the flower is thrown into the lotus feet of Krsna and the ant kisses the lotus feet of Krsna, he is as good as the pujari. This is spiritual world. So we should give everyone chance how to serve Krsna. Then he will remain on the upper platform. Samatitya. Atitya mean transcending. Etan gunan. Etan gunan means because the material world is complicated with the modes of material nature, so this is called guna. So anyone who is engaged constantly in devotional

760105SB.NEL Lectures 226280/530501 things will be cleansed. For example, you can see practically all my disciples present there. They are coming from Western countries, Europe, America, or even in India, Parsis and other, Mohammedans, they are coming. But they are now pure, cleansed of all dirty things. In this movement throughout the whole world there are at least ten to twelve thousand devotees like that. And before this life they were addicted to all kinds of sinful life. We have summarized all sinful activities into four groups, namely, illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication, and gambling. So all these ten to twelve thousand men who are now attached with this Krsna consciousness movement, they are not commiting these four pillars of sinful life. Therefore our request is that you take to this chanting method. It is very easy, Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, and gradually you shall become free from all sinful reaction of life. But one thing we must be very careful, that we should not commit again sinful life. If you chant Hare Krsna mantra, you become free immediately from all sinful reaction. But if you commit again sinful life, that is your responsibility. This is warned very… Amongst the ten kinds of offenses, one offense is very (sic:) grievious offense–namnad balad yasya hi papa-buddhih–if one thinks that “I am chanting Hare Krsna; therefore whatever sinful acts I am doing, it is becoming counteracted.” If you keep yourself on the platform of chanting Hare Krsna mantra and do not commit willfully again sinful life, then you are liberated. [this means chanting without offenses]So not only mukti-marga, if you keep yourself always pure, do not commit any sinful activity and chant Hare Krsna mantra, then your life is successful. Don’t commit the mistake of the elephant that take bath thoroughly and again come and throw dust on your body. I think I shall end tonight this here. Thank you very much. (end)

710721SB.NY Lectures 226309/530501 Because Mayavadi philosophers, they are very much,I mean to say, careful, that “My salvation may…, may…, may not be interrupted. If I go to preach, and in association with others, if I fall down, then my business will be finished.” So they do not come. Only Vaisnava comes at the risk of their falldown. They do not fall down, but they go even to the hell to deliver. So Prahlada, this is Prahlada Maharaja’s admission. He says that na udvije: “I’m not very much anxious or perturbed because I am living in this material world.” Naivodvije para duratyaya-vaitaranyah. Vaitaranyah means this hellish condition of life, how to cross the river of hellish condition of life. So “I have no anxiety for that.”

…that does not solve the problem. You have manufactured cars. I have practical experience. When Dayananda wanted to take me to a doctor from Los Angeles, it is thirty miles off. Thirty miles off. So I had to take trouble to go thirty miles and come thirty miles before I could consult the doctor. You see? And if you have created cars, then you must have meet your friends and necessities thirty miles off, forty miles off. You can go from New York to Boston in one hour, but go to the airport you will take three hours. (laughter) Therefore it is called maya-sukhaya. (laughter) Maya means false, illusory. We are trying to create some very comfortable situation, but creating another uncomfortable situation. This is called maya-su… This is the way of… If you do not be satisfied by the natural comforts offered by God, or nature, if you want to create artificial comfort, then you have to create another discomfort for counteracting. They do not know that. They are thinking that “We are creating very comfortable situation.” Fifty miles going to the office. For earning livelihood, fifty miles, from one place to another. I saw in Hawaii. When Gaurasundara was working to maintain our temple, he was working. Unfortunately, he had to go fifty miles off from the temple to work for it. So I was very sorry to see how this boy is going fifty miles.

750615SB.HON Lectures 226414/530501 many others… So He is always in association of His assistants, who are assisting Him in propagating the sankirtana movement. Gaurangera sangi-gane, nitya-siddha bhoi mane. Anyone who is preaching the sankirtana movement is associate of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Sangopangastra… Just like Advaita Prabhu, Nityananda Prabhu helped, similarly, anyone, even up to date, who is trying to help the propagation of Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission, preach this sankirtana movement all over the world, he is also associate of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Gaurangera sangi-gane nitya siddha boli mane. They are not ordinary human being. Nitya siddha, ever liberated.

…you will be saved. Otherwise there is no saving. Tatha dehantara-praptih. You will have to accept another body. And what is that body? That is not stated. That will be decided at the end of your life, at the time of your death, at the condition of your mind and intelligence at that time. If, at that time, you are thinking of your pet dog, “What will happen to my pet dog? How he will live? Let me leave some of my property in his name,” (laughter) then you can leave the dog with some property, but you are going to be dog. This is laws of nature. You may love your dog very nicely and leave some property, but where you are going, sir? That is under the nature’s law. You cannot say that “I given so much property to the dog. Why shall I accept the…?” No. Because your mind is absorbed in the thought of dog, therefore you must take the dog’s body. This is nature’s law. Therefore we have to train up our mind. Instead of dog, you must train up your mind to think of God. Then you will be saved. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam. …human being or demigod or cat or dog. These are all ordained. So you cannot get out the living entity, soul, by force from that body. Then you will be punishable. The living entity is never killed, but you have no right to get him out from that body. That is sinful. If you argue that “What is the harm if I kill one animal, because it is said, na hanyate hanyamane sarire: ‘The living entity, soul, is never killed even after the annihilation of this body’?” that is all right. But you cannot force him. Just like if you get one person, by force, get out from his apartment–he is not dying, of course, but still, it is criminal because you are forcing to go out of the apartment. So that is the law of nature. You cannot force anyone to get out of the body. Then you are punishable. …sinful.” So if he commits some sinful activity, he goes to a very expert brahmana. They are called bhattacarya. They are especial… Just like there are physicians for treatment of the disease, there are highly learned brahmanas who are called bhattacaryas. People go there: “Sir, I have committed this sin. What I have to do?” So they prescribe that “You do like this.” So similarly, as we go to the physician, we have to go to consult an expert learned brahmana, that “I have committed…” But people used to understand that what is sinful and what is pious. Now people are so downtrodden, so dull, mandah, that they do not understand what is sinful, what is pious. They are going on, doing all nonsense without any care. And there is no question of consulting physician or learned brahmana.

760508SB.HON Lectures 226437/530501 So atonement is prescribed in every scripture. Even in Christian Bible there is atonement. So in other scriptures also there is atonement. Just like a man who has committed murder, he must die. “Life for life.” This is atonement. When the government punishes a murderer with capital punishment, death, that is a mercy upon him. That punishment is accepted practically all over the world from time immemorial. So there must be atonement. So if a person who has committed murder, killed somebody else, then if he is punished by death, then the sinful activities which he has committed, that is counteracted. Otherwise he will have to suffer next life very severely, four times. So people do not believe even in the next life, and what to speak of atonement and punishment. They are kept in darkness. Otherwise they would have been… If they would have followed actually the injunction of the sastras… First of all one should not be killing anyone. In the Bible also it is said, “Thou shall not kill.” Why it is forbidden? Because if he kills, he’ll have to suffer. But they do not care for it. Therefore they suffer.

….something sinful by my mind, then we become affected. Therefore we must keep always sinless. Kaya-mana-vakya. This sannyasa tridanda… There are three rods within the stick or the cover, three dandas. Not three, four. Three is kaya–body, mind, kaya, mana, and words, and one he is personally. Therefore there are four sticks within the danda. Those who have taken sannyasa, they know it. The idea is that “I surrender to my spiritual master or Krsna.” Spiritual master is identical with Krsna because he gives true knowledge. Therefore he is as good as God. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha bhavyata. A spiritual master is considered directly as the Supreme

…bodies according to my choice. This morning we were talking about the sufferers, what is called? The sea suffers? Devotees: Surfers. Prabhupada: Surfer, yes. (devotees laugh) Surfer. I call “sufferer.” “Sea-sufferer.” (laughter) Sea-surfer, it is practical because we are creating a situation by which we shall become a fish. Yes. Contamination. Just like if you purposely contaminate some disease you must suffer from that disease. Karanam guna-sango ‘sya sad-asad janma-yonisu, in the Bhagavad-gita. Why there are different varieties of life? What is the reason? That reason means karanam. Krsna says in … So there are three modes of material nature–goodness, passion, and ignorance. So long we are in this material world, purusah prakrti-stho ‘pi bhunjante tad-gunan. If we remain in certain place, we must be affected by the modes of that place. So there are three modes, sattva-guna, rajo-guna. We have to associate either with the modes of goodness or with the modes of passion or with the modes of ignorance.

.. guna-sango ‘sya. So the person who is taking very much pleasure, dancing in the sea like fish, so he is contaminating that modes of nature so that in next life he will become a fish. He’ll be very free to dance with the ocean. (laughter) Now it will take again millions of years to come to the stage of human being. Jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa-vimsati. He has to pass through the fish life. There are 900,000 different species of life. Then you again come to the land–you become trees, plants, and so on. Two millions different forms you have to go through. That is evolution. Darwin’s theory of evolution, that is not perfectly explained. It is explained in the Vedic literature. So just a tree is standing for ten thousands of years, we had to pass through this life. But there is no perfect knowledge. We are thinking we are now very nice American body or Indian body. No. It took so many years to come to this life. Therefore sastra says, labdhva sudurlabham idam bahu-sambhavante: “You have got this human form of life after many, many millions of years’ waiting.” So do not misuse it. That is Vedic civilization, not to misuse the

…the Pitrloka. If you want to remain here as human being, you can also remain here, but you have to work for it to keep your position, status. Just like if you become rich man, high standard of life, you have to maintain it. Not that it will continue automatically. No, that is not possible, sir. This material world is not like that: you get one position and it will continue. No. A little discrepancy, immediately deteriorate your position. So you have to maintain it.

…life. But our, this Krsna consciousness movement begins when you are ready to surrender. That is beginning. Tad viddhi pranipatena. Pranipat means surrender. Prakrsta-rupena nipata. “Yes, I surrender to you.” That is the beginning. Bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate. To learn the surrender, it will take many, many births. Bahunam janmanam ante. But those who are intelligent, they will surrender immediately. “Krsna says, ‘Surrender,’ and why not? Krsna is the Supreme Lord. Let me surrender.” Then his life is successful immediately. Within a second his life is successful. But we are not prepared to surrender. That is our material disease. So if we do not surrender to Krsna and take His instruction and make our life, that is our choice. But if you like, you can make your life successful within a moment simply by surrendering to Krsna. Thank you very much. Devotees: Jaya Prabhupada! (end)

710722SB.NY Lectures 226460/530501 Young man: (yelling) Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Look what your Godbrothers are doing. Prabhupada! Please help me, Prabhupada! Prabhupada: What is that? Devotees: There’s a crazy boy out there. Crazy man. Crazy man… Young man: Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Prabhupada! Devotees. Hypocrites. They’re hypocrites. (devotees chant japa loudly) Prabhupada: So office record is kept there…[he ignores him and just goes on] Young man: You’re full of nescience! Prabhupada: …and, according to the activities of that particular person, he’s awarded promotion, increment of pay, or sometimes degraded and fired off. Two things are there. Similarly, for all our

710722SB.NY Lectures 226474/530501 Unless we come to the original consciousness, then we are crazy in different degrees. Everyone who is not in Krsna consciousness, he is to be supposed crazy because he is talking on a platform which is temporary, transient. It will be finished. But we, as living entities, we are eternal. So temporary business is not our business. Our business should be eternal because we are eternal. And that eternal business is how to serve Krsna. Just like this finger is the part and parcel of my body, but the finger’s eternal business is how to serve

710722SB.NY Lectures 226472/530501 thinking, “I am this, I am that.” But actual thinking should be “I am Krsna’s.” That is Krsna consciousness. “I am Krsna’s.” And in Krsna consciousness relationship, because Krsna is for everyone, therefore I become everyone’s. Just try to understand. In India, the system is when a girl is married to a boy, so–in your country also, everywhere, the same system–just like the nephew of the boy calls the girl “Aunt.” Now, how she becomes aunt? Because, in relationship with her husband. Before the marriage, she was not aunt, but as soon as he (she) is related with her husband, the husband’s nephew become the nephew. Just try to understand the example. Similarly, if we reestablish our relationship, or our original relationship with Krsna, and Krsna is for everyone, therefore I become for everyone. That is real universal love. The artificial, so-called universal love cannot be established unless you have established your relationship with the central point. Just like you are Americans. Why? Because you are born in this land. So another American is a member of your country, but if you become something else, then you have no relationship with another American. So we have to reestablish our relationship with Krsna. Then the question of universal brotherhood, justice, peace, prosperity will come. Otherwise, there is no possibility. Central point missing. How there can be justice and peace? It is not possible.

760510SB.HON Lectures 226574/530501 The injunction is that tad viddhi, if you want to understand transcendental subject matter, not material, spiritual… Spiritual is completely unknown to us because we do not know what is spiritual. We are identifying with this body. You do not know even that “I am spirit soul.” So where is the possibility of spiritual understanding? One cannot see himself, what he is. He is thinking, “I am this body,” exactly like the dog. The dog is thinking, “I am dog.” So if I think, “I am American,” “I am Indian,” where is the difference? There is no difference. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. If one thinks that “I am this body,” then he’s no better than sa eva go-kharah. The animals, they also think like that, “I am this body.” …then we are rascal. There is no beyond. This is perfect knowledge. So how to take perfect knowledge? Tad viddhi. First of all you try to learn. Tad viddhi. How to learn? Where to learn? Pranipatena, fully surrendered. If you find somebody that he is somebody important where you can surrender fully, from him… Tad viddhi pranipata… This is. Our process of Vedic knowledge is how to surrender, not that I hear and I reject it. That is not the way. That is another rascaldom. First of all find out the person where you can surrender. Surrender means you first of all be convinced that “Here is a person who can give me actual knowledge.” Therefore before selecting guru one has to convince himself that “The person whom I am going to accept as guru, whether he actually can give me the knowledge?” That is wanted. Therefore before making guru, the system is, for one year the prospective disciple should hear from the person and then decide. And similarly, the guru also see a person who is actually submissive or not. That is Vaisnava injunction, Hari-bhakti-vilasa, not that to make a guru as a fashion. No. Not do. Don’t keep a guru, order-supplying guru. No. Just like if somebody keeps a dog and the master orders him, “Do this,” and he does, fashion. No. It is not fashion. You must approach guru who…, where you can surrender. Otherwise don’t make guru. And the guru also should not accept such rascal as guru. First of all the thing is surrender. Tad viddhi pranipatena. The first necessity is that you surrender. So here you have seen, Pariksit Maharaja, although the emperor of the world, he is taking lesson from Sukadeva Gosvami. Sukadeva Gosvami is seated on the throne and he is seated on the ground, submissive. So does it mean that “I shall become submissive, and whatever my guru will say, I will have to accept?” No. Pariprasnena. Tad viddhi. Here is the pariprasna. Sri-raja uvaca. Ask him. That is intelligent. Intelligently serve. First of all we must… It is not that he is checking the guru, “How my guru is learned?” No. The submission is there. But when the guru says something, he may not understand. That concession is given, pariprasna. You inquire.

710725SB.NY Lectures 226666/530501 When Rsabhadeva, the father of Maharaja Bharata, after whose name this planet is called Bharatavarsa The name Bharatavarsa is not only the name for India, but it is the name for this planet. Formerly, five thousand years ago, the whole planet was known as Bharatavarsa. The Vedic culture was all over the world. These Europeans and Americans, they are coming of the same stock, Indo-Aryan stock. There is a great history behind this, how some of the ksatriyas, they left India during the time of Parasurama. He declared war against the ksatriyas and he was incarnation of God. He was killing the ksatriyas like anything and some of the ksatriyas fled from India and came to this part of the world. So from historical point of view you Europeans and Americans, you belong to the ksatriya stock of old India, and somehow or other you have forgotten this Vedic culture. Originally you belonged to this Vedic culture. The Vedic culture was all over the world, even in America–different types of worship or concept of God. The Red Indians also had some religion. … But real, real fact is if you want to advance in spiritual understanding, if you want to make a solution of all the problems of your life, then you have to accept this life of austerity, tapasya. Restriction. Restriction is meant for human beings, not for the animals. Just like in our common dealings, when you drive your car, you have got some restriction. You cannot drive your car on the left side. That is offense. “Keep to the right.” You cannot drive your car …regulation. That is human life. But now the propaganda is that everyone, one wants to be free, no regulative life. This is animal life. Just try to understand. The regulations, lawbooks, restrictions, they are meant for human being, not for animals. And if you want freedom from all restrictions, then you come to the animal life. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami recommends first tapasya. If you want to stop the problems of life, then you have to accept the life of austerity, tapasya.

760513SB.HON Lectures 226742/530501 This is the translation of the… Nasnatah pathyam. Pathyam. Pathyam means good foodstuff, not “Anything I can eat.” That is the business of the hogs and dogs. Just like hogs have no discrimination. Anything, up to stool you give him: it will eat. That is not human civilization. Although it is the law of nature that ahastani sahastanam. Vegetables or animals who has no hand… Just like ordinary animals, they have got four legs, no hand. So these four-legged animals is the food for the two-legged animals. Ahastani sahastanam. Uncivilized men means two-legged animals. They are animals, but two-legged. There are four-legged animals; there are two-legged. Ahastani sahastanam apadani catus-padam: “And living entities who have no legs, just like the vegetables, grass, plants, trees…” They have no legs. They cannot move, but they are living entities. They are food for catus-padam, for the animals who have got four legs. Ahastani sahastanam apadani catus-padam, phalguni mahatam tatra: “And the weak is food for the strong.” Phalguni… Jivo jivasya jivanam. This is the law of nature, that one life is meant for maintaining another life. That is going on. So sometimes they put forward this argument that “You are also eating vegetables. They have got life. Why you object that nonvegetarians who are eating four legged animals…?” No. We are not going to infringe to the laws of nature. That is not our business. You can eat four-legged animals because you are also animal. But when we speak of civilized animals… Civilized is not animal. That is human being. So long one is not civilized, he is animal. And the civilization begins when one understands that he is not this body. That is the beginning of civilization. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke. So long one is in ignorance, the bodily concept of life, he is animal. When one knows that “I am not this body; I am… Aham brahmasmi,” then civilization begins. So here it is recommended that unless we follow the rules and regulations, then there is no possibility of curing our material disease. The whole process is we are in materially diseased. Otherwise we are as good as Krsna, but because we are materially diseased, we are in the difficult position of birth, death, old age and disease. Krsna says. This is real problem. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. So if we want to be cured from this disease, then we have to follow rules and regulation, just like a patient, if he wants to be cured from the disease, he has to follow the rules and regulation prescribed by the physician. Therefore law, religion, Vedic scripture, they are all meant for human being, not for the cats and dogs. Even ordinary law, they are meant for human being. Just like on the street it is “Keep to the right.” So this is for the human being. If the cats and dogs goes from right to the left or wrong, they are not prosecuted. The law is meant for the human being. If the human being does not follow rules and regulative principle, law, then he’s animal. So civilized means to raise oneself from the animal status of life to the human status life. That means rules and regulations.

710727SB.NY Lectures 226750/530501 Prabhupada: So we have been discussing this verse for the last two days. Tyagena. Partially I have already explained: tyaga, renounce. There is some natural tendency also for renouncing. When one gets to the topmost of material opulence, immediately there is a tendency for renunciation. This hippie movement is like that. They have got a good qualification that they have renounced this materialistic way of life. Tyagena. The, there are two kinds of tendencies: one is bhoga and one is tyaga. Bhoga means enjoyment, sense enjoyment, and tyaga means to give up this material world. But without guidance, one does not know how to renounce this material world. That is called tyaga. Bhoga and tyaga, two kinds of tendencies are going on in this material world. First of all they want to enjoy, and when they are frustrated in enjoyment, then there is renouncement. Again when they are tired of renouncement, again enjoyment. Just like the clock pendulum, this side and that side–tock, tock, tock, tock. Similarly, we are oscillating: sometimes in the platform of enjoyment and sometimes on the platform of renouncement. Two things are there in this material world. The karmis, they are trying to enjoy this world, whole day and night that expressway, always trucks and cars are going on–sonh, sonh, sonh, sonh. Bhoga, how to enjoy, first class. Another, the hippies. They don’t want to do anything. Both sides are there in your country, bhoga and tyaga. But in neither of the paths you’ll be happy, because that is not your proper position. You cannot enjoy or you cannot renounce. Actually the whole thing belongs to Krsna. Nothing belongs to anyone. Whatever you have got in possession, that is Krsna’s property. Isavasyam idam sarvam. Everything. You do…, you try to understand. The trees, the plants, the water, the land–have you produced it? Then … Then what to do? That is direction given by Krsna: sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. You have created different types of religion on the basis of this bhoga and tyaga. So you give up all them. Then? Mam ekam saranam vraja: “You surrender unto Me.” Because you cannot enjoy nor make any renunciation. But here it is said tapasa, tyagena, by renouncing. Renouncing means that you’re falsely possessing. So you give it to Krsna, the original proprietor. Just like one hundred dollars note, a child has taken from the father. The child does not know how to use that hundred dollars note, but he, he’ll not give it to the father. “No, I shall not give it.” Father is begging: “Oh, my dear child, you are so nice. Kindly give it to me.” Actually the note belongs to the father. But because he’s child, he’s innocent, ignorant, he does not know. Therefore Krsna says, dadasi yat kurusva mad-arpanam. Dana, this tyaga, “You renounces this world for Me. You renounce your wealth, your property for Me.” The same thing. Everything belongs to Krsna. He’s not a beggar. But He’s patting the child, “Oh, you are very good boy. Kindly give it to Me.” That is the way. Krsna is so kind. Because… The same example: the child does not know how to utilize that hundred dollars note. He’ll simply spoil it. The best thing is to give it over, hand it over to the father. He knows how to use it. It is his property. Similarly this tyagena means to practice, to give everything to Krsna. Everything. Tyagena. Samena damena tyagena. This is the different steps of elevating yourself to Krsna consciousness. Tapasa brahmacaryena samena ca damena ca, tyagena satya-saucabhyam. Satya means truthfulness. One should know what is truth, ultimate truth, Absolute Truth. We are concerned with relative truths, but we have to know the Absolute Truth. Just like in the Bhagavata Vyasadeva is offering his respect, obeisances: satyam param dhimahi. “I offer my respect to the Supreme Truth, not to the relative truth.” We are concerned with relative truth, categorical truth, not the summum bonum. Saucabhyam: cleanliness. This is also required. Cleanliness. … So you are all initiated to become brahmana. You have become brahmana. Don’t become false brahmana. Real brahmana. It is not by birth; it is by education, by practice, by knowledge. So we are offering the sacred thread to the Americans and Europeans in the Western countries, and some of our Indian contemporaries, they are not very happy with my action. They are under contemplation that a brahmana can be, I mean to say, seen by birthright. No. No. Brahmana is by qualification. Brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. That is the verdict of Krsna. We are concerned with Krsna, not any other else. Krsna says, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah: “By division of quality and, guna, and work, one must have the symptoms, the quality of a brahmana, and work as a brahmana.” Not that… Quality will be tested by work. Suppose if you are engineer. You have got the quality of… But if you sit down at home, what is your value? You must be engaged in some engineer work. Suppose you are lawyer, and if you don’t go to the court and sleep at your home, then what is the worth of your studying law? Therefore guna-karma. One should not be simply qualified as engineer or lawyer, but he must work also, as engineer, as lawyer. Then he’s bona fide. Similarly, unless you work as a brahmana, simply saying that “I am a brahmana,” what is the value? Useless. They…, therefore Krsna says, guna-karma-vibhagasah. There must be quality and work also. So here we are qualifying the students to be raised in the brahminical platform, and they’re working also as brahmana. How they are working as brahmana? Because they’re fully engaged in Param Brahma’s service, Krsna’s service. Therefore they are brahmanas. Brahma janati iti brahmanah. Without knowing, nobody can render service. They are not rendering service in the ear. They are serving Krsna factually. Here is sitting Krsna with …can…? That is not possible. Therefore the process is being explained by Sukadeva Gosvami: tapasa. First thing is tapasya, austerity. Even it is painful… Austerity’s painful. Brahmacarya is painful. Because we want, unrestricted, to do everything. But no. As soon as it is regulated it appears to be painful. When it is practiced, it is not painful. One brahmacari in Indian city, in severe cold, he was sleeping in the open air, without any covering. And it was severe cold. But it was practice. During Magha-mela, many saintly persons come there on the bank of the Ganga, Ganges. This year we had our own camp; we have seen. The whole night they are sitting in the open air, without any covering. So practice. So practice means if you undergo austerity, tapasya, everything will be practiced. That is a Bengali proverb: sarire na mahasaya(?). Mahasaya is a word used in India, a very respectable gentleman, mahasaya. So this sarira, this body is mahasaya. Ya sa haye sa taicha(?). Whatever he’ll practice, it will be accustomed. So practice. So here this Krsna consciousness movement is bringing them to the practice. Therefore you find, so nice, boys and girls, they’re practiced. As soon as they’re neglectful to the practice—falls down. They cannot stay. Immediately goes out. So that is called austerity, tapasya. Practice. Practical life. So these are the processes.

…continuously committing sinful activities, from time immemorial… You do not know when it began. Evolution, many births. Therefore this life is meant for rectifying all mistakes that we had committed in our previous life or in this life. How? By this process. Ksipanty agham. Agham means the resultant action of sinful life. Mahad api. Although it is very great, mahad api, how? Venu-gulmam, venu-gulmam ivanalah. Just like if you set fire to unwanted grass and creepers in the field. You set fire, and they will be all burned. Similarly, by this process, tapasa brahmacaryena, you can liquidate all of your sinful activities of life and you become purified. So the next process, another alternative process is being suggested by Sukadeva Gosvami.

kecit kevalaya bhaktya …dangerous, fog. Those who are… But as soon as there is sunrise, some way or other, everything finished. Similarly, some way or other, if you take to Krsna consciousness, all the sinful reaction of your life immediately finished like the fog. So, but… This process is accepted kecit, somebody, very fortunate. Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore said:

ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija

The Krsna consciousness is not for ordinary persons. It is meant for very, very fortunate persons. But simply by accepting one thing, Krsna consciousness, he finishes all business of brahmacarya, tyaga, yama, niyama, sama, dama, everything. So Sukadeva Gosvami is prescribing, kecit kevalaya bhaktya. Kevalaya bhaktya. Kevala-bhakti. There is no mixture. Kevala means only pure devotional service. What is that pure devotional service?

anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam anukulyena krsnanu- silanam bhaktir uttama

No other desire than to please Krsna. Not that “I have become a devotee. Now my income will increase,” or “I shall be…” That, that will come automatically. You want money to increase your income to become happy. But if you take to Krsna consciousness, automatically you’ll be so happy that you’ll neglect to collect money. That will automatically come. There is no need of separate endeavor. Happiness will come. Yam labdhva. Just like Dhruva, Dhruva Maharaja. He was so lamenting. Those who are recording, I mean, transcribing my tapes, how he was lamenting, that “How foolish I was that I took to devotional service with a desire for some material profit.” He was so much repentant. So that is, that is another profit of the devotee. For material profit, somebody goes to somebody, some boss, some rich man, some demigod, some powerful man. But a devotee does not go anywhere. He goes to Krsna only. Even if he has got material desires. That is the advantage. This advantage: that if you go to Krsna for some material advantage even, then day will come, you’ll forget that material advantage. …anything else from me”–he’s a rich man–ask him for millions of dollars or something like that. But instead of…, if you ask for your foolishness, that “Please give me some broken grains of rice…” So similarly, to go to Krsna and to ask some material benefit is exactly like this, to go to some rich man and ask from his “Please give me some broken grains of rice.” Why one should ask for material happiness from Krsna? Material happiness will roll on his feet: “Please take me, please take me.” These Krsna conscious boys and girls, in sixty centers, just see how they are materially opulent. They’re living in the best house. They’re eating best food. They’re in best consciousness. They have got the best hope. Everything best. Their feature of body is best. What you want material happiness more than this? They have got wife, children, happiness, home–everything–full. So material happiness is nothing to a Krsna conscious person. He gets automatically by the grace of Krsna. There is no need of asking for it. Simply be steady to ask Krsna, “Please engage me in Your service.” Anukulyena krsnanusilanam. How Krsna will be satisfied? Then your satisfaction will automatically come. Don’t bother for material happiness. Thank you very much.

750626SB.LA Lectures does not become old. Nava-yauvanam ca. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam ca. He is the oldest person because He has created everything, but He will never look old. You will never see Krsna’s picture as old man. These are the definition of God. God, nobody can be richer than Him, nobody can be stronger than Him, nobody can be more beautiful than Him, and nobody wiser than Him even. That proof we can see: Bhagavad-gita was spoken five thousand years ago, and still Bhagavad-gita is worshiped as the best book of knowledge. This is the proof. So God does not depend on anyone’s proof. But if you want to prove whether He is God, you can get. That you can get. Therefore we should accept Krsna as the Supreme God. It is stated in all sastras, ….

…750626SB.LA Lectures 226799/530501 Therefore we should accept Krsna as the Supreme God. It is stated in all sastras, and Arjuna also, who listened Bhagavad-gita from Krsna, he also accepted. After hearing Bhagavad-gita, he said, param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan, purusam sasvatam adyam. So our process is to follow the predecessor. The Arjuna, he accepted. Not only Arjuna. “Arjuna may be His friend. He might have accepted his friend as God.” No. Krsna is accepted by the greatest learned scholar, Vyasadeva, and greatest saintly person, Narada. That is Vyasadeva writes in his Srimad-Bhagavatam that “I have given description of different incarnation of God.” He has given so many incarnation. At last, he concludes that “Although Krsna came as incarnation, but He is not incarnation. He is the incarnate. From Him, all incarnations come.” Ete camsa-kalah pumsah krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. As soon as you say “incarnation,” the next question will be, “Whose incarnation?” That Vyasadeva explains, that Krsna’s incarnation Krsna is not incarnation. Krsna is personally the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is the statement of Vyasadeva, the most learned. He is accepted the most, actually. Who can be more learned than Vyasadeva in this material world? Nobody. You can see his writing, Bhagavatam, how exalted, scholarly. Nobody can write such verses at the present moment. It is not possible. Each and every word is full of meaning and so nicely set up. Therefore it is said, vidvan cakre satvata-samhitam: “The vidvan, the most learned Vyasadeva, has given us the satvata-samhita.” So if we want to know, everything is there; but to understand, that will require a separate brain. That is recommended here. You create your brain. Tapasa, first of all austerity. You cannot create your brain by doing nonsense things. That is not possible. You have to control: samena damena, tapasa brahmacaryena. These are the process to create a brain to understand God. Otherwise it is useless.

710730SB.LON Lectures Therefore, this human form of body is especially meant for creating a favorable situation so that when we pass through this body or we leave this body and we accept another body, we’ll get exact a body like Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness movement. We are trying to change the consciousness of the people so that this preparation will help him to get exactly a body like Krsna in next life, and he may dance with Krsna in rasa dance. That is our propaganda. Body you’ll get. That’s a fact. Just as you are getting one body after another in this life, similarly, tatha dehantara-praptir, similarly another change of body. Dhiras tatra na muhyati. Those who are in the knowledge, they’re not surprised. They know what kind of body. “My father left this body; now he has accepted another body.” He can understand what kind of body he has. How? Just like when you see a friend going away to other place by plane, you know, “This plane is meant for…” Just like I came from New York yesterday to London. So everyone knows that I have gone to London. How? They are not seeing me, but from the evidences of the ticket, of the aeroplane and everything, they know certainly, “Swamiji has gone to London.” Similarly, if you know the things right, you can know also “Where this man is going after death.” How you gan know? That is also stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Urdhvam gacchanti sattva-stha: “Those who are situated in the modes of goodness…. That is Vedic civilization.

710801SB.NY Lectures But as you make progress in service, you’ll find it pleasing, not disgusting. That is the taste that you have developed. When you do not feel disgusted in the service, in executing the service of the Lord, that means you have made progress. That material service becomes disgusting. Just like for example, here is Krsna’s name, “Hare Krsna.” Throughout one’s life, twenty-four hours, he’s chanting Hare Krsna. But it is not disgusting. But take any material name and chant it three times, you become disgusted. This is a fact. But these boys, these girls, throughout, throughout their life will go on chanting Hare Krsna, will never be disgusted, but they will chant more and more. So this is priti. The more you chant, the more you become attached: “Let me chant more.” Not disgusted, but “Let me chant more.” This is called priti. Similarly, any service of the Lord. This is service by sravanam and kirtanam.

730222SB.AUC Lectures Prabhupada: Do something for Krsna? Devotee (1): For Krsna. But he begins to realize it’s still tinged with a lot of personal gratification… Prabhupada: Therefore he should consult spiritual master. The guide is there. Then it is all right. He should take sanction from Krsna or Krsna’s representative. If he wants to do something, that’s good, but whether that doing is right or wrong you have to know it from Krsna or His representative. Is it clear or not? Yes. Devotee (1): How can one reach the point where he knows that a particular type of service… Sruta-kirti: How can one reach the point where he knows a particular type of service… Devotee (1): …will please the spiritual master? Madhudvisa: He wants to know how to find out how to please the spiritual master with one service. Prabhupada: The spiritual master has given you so many things to do. Do it. First of all finish that. First of all finish sixteen rounds, observe the regulative principles. First of all… First of all finish this duty. And neglecting this duty, what you can do further? If you cannot finish sixteen rounds chanting, you cannot observe the regulative principles, then what else you can do? First of all finish this duty. Be expert in finishing, executing these duties. Then ask for another duty. And if you finish these duties, automatically Krsna will give you intelligence. Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam. One who is actually engaged in the service of the Lord, buddhi-yogam dadami tam, “I give him intelligence.” Krsna will give you intelligence. You will be able to talk with Krsna from within if you become sincere. If you cannot execute the preliminary duties, then how you can execute further duty? There is no question. Madhudvisa: This is a problem, I think, with many devotees. They have a difficulty distinguishing between their own speculation and the inspiration… Prabhupada: Then they should stop speculation. That is their first duty. Devotional life means stop speculation. Madhudvisa: Well, what is inspiration then? Prabhupada: Inspiration? That inspiration is there. That is very good, that “I shall do something for Krsna.” So whatever duty is assorted to you or allotted to you, you first execute that duty. Devotee (2): How important is formal initiation? Prabhupada: Formal initiation means to accept, officially, to abide by the orders of Krsna and His representative. That is formal initiation. Officially accept, “Yes, sir, I shall accept. I shall do whatever you say.” This is initiation, official acceptance of the job. That’s all. Now, you formally accept, and if you do not do the duties, then where is the question of other function? There is no question. Initiation means this is the beginning of accepting the orders of Krsna and His representative to carry out. This is the beginning. That is initiation. Just like if you enter in an office establishment, so you accept the terms of service. That is initiation. Then you go on serving, you become promoted, you get salary increase. You become recognized. You become officer. You become big officer, like that. That very word initiation suggests, “This is the beginning.” Diksa, diksa. Di… Divya. There are two words, divya-jnana. Divya-jnana means transcendental, spiritual knowledge. So divya is di, and jnanam, ksapayati, explaining, that is ksa, di-ksa. This is called diksa, diksa, the combination. So diksa means the initiation to begin transcendental activities. That is called initiation. Therefore we take promise from the disciple that “You chant so many times,” “Yes, sir.” “You observe these rules and regulations,” “Yes, sir.” That is initiation. He has to observe; he has to chant. Then everything comes automatically. In the beginning he is faulty; then how he can make progress? There is no question of in…, what is called? What you were asking? Madhudvisa: Inspiration. Prabhupada: Inspiration. What is that inspiration? If you have got inspiration, first of all execute this. Inspiration there is. Because we are, by nature, we are servant of Krsna, we want to serve. But that should be regulated. That should be regulated. That is initiation. Yes? Madhudvisa: Srila Prabhupada, you were speaking about Sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam, that any one of these principles, if executed, is sufficient. Now, some devotees may take this to mean that they simply can chant Hare Krsna and don’t have to do anything else like temple duties or readings or… Prabhupada: That means he is not chanting Hare Krsna. Because if he is actually chanting Hare Krsna, he must be enthusiastic to serve Krsna more and more. This is an excuse. Utsahan dhairyat tat-tat-karma-pravar… He must be very enthusiastic. Therefore we have limited. If you are chanting Hare Krsna, if you are so advanced, then chant Hare Krsna twenty-four hours. But he will sleep. (makes snoring noise) (laughter) So in the name of chanting Hare Krsna, you will sleep. And if you are actually chanting Hare Krsna, you will be enthusiastic, “Oh, I shall serve. I shall…” That is effect. Phalena pariciyate. We have to see by the result. He should be enthusiastic more and more. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. It will increase. The service attitude will increase. Therefore we have given all the nine items sometimes here, sometimes there, sometimes here, but all Krsna’s. Actually recommended, all the nine, but even one is accepted sincerely, that also give perfection. That is another thing. But actually, we should accept all the nine items: Sravanam kirtanam visnu smaranam pada-sevanam, arcanam… And All right. Yes? Devotee (3): How is it possible that Tulasi-devi is a pure devotee, what we might call a plant? Prabhupada: That you cannot know in your impure state. You just become pure. You will understand. (laughter) Just like a physician, he can understand another physician, what is his position. The layman, what he can understand? If you say, physician, “Oh, how I can understand this physician?” How you can understand? You are not a physician. You become a physician, then you will understand what kind of physician he is. So when you become devotee, you will understand what kind of devotee is Tulasi. So long you are not devotee, you cannot understand. Don’t expect. Therefore we have to accept the authority. That is beginning. Sastra says, “Tulasi is the greatest devotee of Krsna.” We have to accept, that’s all. Authority. How she is so great devotee, that you will understand when you become a devotee. You come to the platform; then you will understand, not before. Now chant. (kirtana) (Prabhupada leads prema-dhvani) (end)

750627SB.LA Lectures So we have been discussing for the last few days how to become free from the reaction of our sinful life. That is real problem. But people, they have no knowledge what is life, what is sinful life, what is pious life, why we are put into this condition that “We have to do this; we haven’t got to do that.” This is real philosophy of life. The asuras, as we were discussing in this morning walk, they do not know it. Asuras… Pravrttim ca nivrttim ca na vidur asurah janah. We are living… In the ordinary life also, we live a little carefully so that we may not fall sick. For that purpose there is very vigilance in the immigration department that in Australia we had some nice mangoes brought from Bombay, and they did not allow to take it. They thought this mango is more dangerous than the dry meat. They will allow importation of dry meat, three hundred years old, (laughter) put into the regrigerator, and that is imported. That is not infectious. But mango, very nice mango, fresh mango–we started in Bombay at night, and we came in the morning, it has become poisonous. So we are so much precautious that not any germs, infectious disease, may enter. That is there. But what is that infection which has caused me to accept this material body again and again? That they do not know. That they do not know. They do not believe in the next life, and therefore asurah janah. This is, the symptom or characteristic of the asurah janah. You should be precautious. That is natural. We become precautious, that “We should not do this so that I may not fall sick.” But we do not know what is our real sickness. That we do not know. That is being presented by Krsna in the Bhagavad-gita, that “This is your sickness, real sickness.” What is that? Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. You are trying to be unaffected by all kinds of sickness, but your real sickness is this material disease: you take birth, you die, you become old, and you suffer from diseases. This is your real sickness. But who is caring for this? Where is the scientist who are investigating how to stop death, how to stop birth. They are, of course, investigating how to stop birth, but still, birth is going on. This sort of stopping births, by killing the body, is not stopping because the body is not the person. The real person is within the body, within the body. Dehino ‘smin yatha dehe. We have explained. That they do not know. They are taking… No. By killing the body or by protecting the body,

…that is not the solution. The solution is that the living entity has infected itself with the material disease. It has to be cured. That is the whole purpose of Vedic civilization, how to cure your material disease. …Sukadeva Gosvami suggested, prayascittam vimarsanam. Vimarsanam means to become sober and think that “Why I cannot check my desire to do sinful activities?” Then he suggested, to come to that understanding he requires good brain. Ordinary brain, they cannot understand that “Why I am forced to act sinfully although after doing that I suffer? I have committed theft. I am suffer…, I go to jail. Again I come out.” So therefore it is called vimarsanam. So for vimarsanam–means to become sober–you require practicing the tapasya. That is also, we have discussed.

tapasa brahmacaryena samena ca damena ca tyagena satya-sauchym yamena niyamena va

A series of practice. Then the brain will be clear. So this process also–not very safe. The example has been given that ksipanty agham mahad api venu-gulmam ivanalah. It is something like burning, setting fire into the dry grass. And superficially it appears that all the grasses are now burned into ashes; there is no possibility of coming out. No. Therefore this very word is there, iva analah. Although superficially, outside, it appears that everything is burned, but the root remains there. The root remains there, and as soon as there will be facility or there will be rainy season, the same grasses and twigs and other things will come out again, new growth. That is… Even after so much tapasya… There are many instances. Just like Visvamitra Muni. Visvamitra Muni was a king. He wanted to become a brahmana, and he practiced mystic yoga for many years. Still, he became a victim of a woman, Menaka. He was meditating, closing eyes, and Indra sent this woman, Menaka. And simply by hearing the sound of the bangles, ching, ching, ching, “Oh, there is woman. Yes, very nice,” (laughter) all mystic yoga finished. Then he begot one daughter. That…, her name is Sakuntala, the famous beautiful daughter. So that history is there. So the root of our material enjoyment cannot be taken away, cannot be uprooted by… The first process is called karma, and the second process is called jnana, and the next, it is suggested, bhakti. So he is suggesting that kecit. People are more inclined to take to the… Those who are absolutely in the rotten condition of life, not for then, but those who are little above the rotten condition… Animals. Rotten condition of, means like animals, cats and dogs. Above them, human life, they take to pious activities or meditation or mystic yoga process, just to purify. So these processes are not sufficient. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami is suggesting next, kecit. That kecit word is very significant. Kecit means somebody, somebody. Who are the somebody? Kecit kevalaya bhaktya, pure devotional service. And how they become? Vasudeva-parayanah. They become Krsna conscious. Krsna conscious person or vasudeva-parayanah, the same thing. Vasudeva means Krsna, that “Simply I shall worship Krsna,” kevalaya, “nothing else.” This firm conviction and steadiness will save you without any doubt, this conviction. Vasudeva-parayanah. Then what is that vasudeva-parayanah? That is also not very easy thing. Krsna, Vasudeva, says, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate. Vasudeva-parayanah and jnanavan mam…, the same thing. When one is fully in awareness what is what, then That awareness also comes–bahunam janmanam ante, after many many thousands of births, bahunam janmanam ante, jnan…, when he is actually jnanavan, that “What I am, what is my duty,” that is actually jnanavan mam prapadyate. So vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhah. After many, many births, when he comes to this, understand that “Vasudeva, Krsna, is everything. So let me. Krsna also asking me to surrender. Let me do it immediately,” that is called vasudeva-parayanah. In another place, Bhagavata, it is said that,

vasudeve bhagavati bhakti-yogah prayojitah janayaty asu vairagyam jnanam ca yad ahaitukam

Those who have become vasudeva-parayanah and engages himself in the service, for them, janayaty asu vairagyam, very soon they become detestful to all this material way of life. That is the test. How much one has advanced in Krsna consciousness, one can test himself that “How much I have become detestful, all this material way of life?” Everyone can test himself. If he has got still some inclination, then he is not fully Krsna conscious. He has to work very hard, how to become fully Krsna conscious, chant Hare Krsna. Then it is possible. So that is called vasudeva-para. Vasudeva-parayanah is not so easy. Therefore it is said, kecit. Kecit means “maybe somebody.” It is not for all. And Krsna also says in the Bhagavad-gita… Who is vasudeva-parayanah? Who knows Vasudeva, who knows Krsna. So He says, manusyanam sahasresu: “Out of millions of persons,” manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye, “somebody is trying to make his life perfect.” Everyone is being carried away by the waves of this material nature: “Eat, drink, be merry and enjoy.” But that is not siddhi. That is imperfection. If you are carried away by the waves of these material necessities, then it is not siddhi. One has to become siddha. Siddha means one who understand that “What I am and what is my duty.” That is siddha, perfect. Not… That is the beginning of perfection. So manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhate. That siddha, perfection of life, is also not for everyone. Somebody out of millions. And Krsna said, yatatam api siddhanam: “Those who are siddhas, those who have attained perfection, if they are trying to understand Me, maybe one or two may understand.” Yatatam api siddhanam kascit vetti mam tattvatah. Therefore it is said that to become vasudeva-parayanah that is very very rare. Therefore it is said kecit, “somebody out of many millions.” So one may ask, “If it is so difficult to become Krsna conscious, so how so many people are becoming Krsna conscious? They are not genuine? They are all false? If it is said kecit?” No, they are not false. They are amongst these kecit, amongst those rare persons, those who have become Krsna conscious. How? It is due to Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has descended to distribute Krsna. That is His mercy. So by the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, so many people are becoming vasudeva-parayanah. But otherwise, it is not possible. Therefore we first offer our obeisances to Guru-Gauranga, by whose mercy we get Krsna. This is the system. Adau gurvasrayam. Now, Caitanya Mahaprabhu is so kind. Rupa Gosvami could understand, could understand.

namo maha-vadanyaya krsna-prema-pradaya te krsnaya krsna-caitanya namne gaura-tvise namah

He understood, confidential devotee, Rupa Gosvami, “O my Lord, You are the same Krsna. Now You have appeared as Krsna-Caitanya, and Your business is to distribute love of Krsna, not only Krsna, but love of Krsna.” So this is Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mercy that you are becoming Krsna conscious. Otherwise, it is not so easy thing; very, very difficult. Kecit kevalaya bhaktya. So stick to this principle. Chant sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. By their favor, by their mercy, we can chant Hare Krsna. And as soon as we chant Hare Krsna, we are vasudeva-parayanah. There is no more fear. That is required. So you stick to this principle, do not forget. We have already given our ways and instruction. So don’t deviate from it. Then everything is perfect and your life is successful. Thank you very much. (end)