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Another ritvik initiation (video)and the sastric proof why it can and should be done today

Hare Krsna–We have two items below-first is the video presentation of a recent devotee becoming initiated on behalf of Srila Prabhupada. Second item is the sastric proof as to why this is possible today and others can also  do it.
damaghosa das
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Below is a link to the video of the initiation ceremony of Abhirama Thakura Prabhu which occurred on September 18, 2021.
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cLPJGCBHgbk7Vfxebo7QLLVAtmscZQzr/view?usp=sharing
 
Since the video is over an hour long and the file size is almost 1.5GB, you can download the video first and then watch it after it is done downloading if you have a slow internet connection.
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Hare Krsna
Below we are trying to give an explanation as to how new bhaktas can become initiated in the present day by Srila Prabhupada- without iskcon, or any other institutional hierarchy.
 
First of all I want to point out that Prabhupada once said that todays Christians today can also become “Christians” or disciples of Jesus- if they accept his instructions. And this is 2000 years later !! So if Christians can accept and be recognized as disciples of Jesus Christ today why cant Srila Prabhupada with his millions of followers also become his disciples and do the same thing?
 
They can and here is the proof below from Srila Prabhupada himself.
 
May 24 1974 Rome
Prabhupāda: … Just like Lord Jesus Christ is a bona fide teacher, and he has given his teaching, his commandments. If you follow those commandments, then you are bona fide student. But if you don’t follow then you are not bona fide.
 
Richard Webster: And if you try to follow but fail or if you…
Prabhupāda: No, you must follow. You cannot fail. Just like Lord Christ says, “Thou shall not kill.” You must follow that. If you do not follow, then you are not Christian. It is not the question of that you could not follow or you are weak to follow. You must follow.
 
And how does one become a follower today of Prabhupada or Jesus?
 
Seattle Oct 2 1968
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Can a Christian in this age, without a spiritual master, but by reading the Bible and following Jesus’s words, reach the…
Prabhupāda:When you read Bible, you follow spiritual master. How can you say without? As soon as you read Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ, that means you are following spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being without spiritual master?
Madhudviṣa:I was referring to a living spiritual master.
Prabhupāda: Spiritual master is not the question of… Spiritual master is eternal.Spiritual master is eternal. So your question is without spiritual master. Without spiritual master you cannot be, at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept.As you say that “by reading Bible,” when you read Bible that means you are following the spiritual master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question without spiritual master. Is that clear?
 
And what is the result of following such a bona fide spiritual master- Either Jesus or Srila Prabhupada?
 
Seattle oct 18 1968
Prabhupāda: …The test of any scripture is how one is developing love of God. Phalena paricīyate. If you find that following some religious principles you are developing your love of God, then it is perfect.It doesn’t matter whether it is Bible or Koran or Bhagavad-gītā. It doesn’t matter.We have to see what is the fruit. If the fruit is that people are developing love of Godhead, then it is perfect.
Don’t try to understand whether this is good, this is good, this is bad, this is… No. Try to understand by the result.Just like the same way: if you see the fruit, then it is first class.
So it doesn’t matter whether it is Bible or Gītā. If you can develop love of Godhead by reading Bible, it is first class, and if you can develop love of Godhead by Bhagavad-gītā, it is first class. And if you do not, then either it is Bible or the Koran or Bhagavad-gītā, it has no effect for you.
 
So it is up to you. Not by comparison, but by your own activities.If you actually follow the instruction given by Lord Jesus Christ, you will also develop love of Godhead.There is no doubt. Similarly, if you follow the instruction of Kṛṣṇa, you will also develop. So it is up to you. You try to follow. If you do not follow, simply try to make a comparative study “This is good” or “This is bad,” “This is bad” or “This is good,” that is called śrama eva hi kevalam [SB 1.2.8]—simply laboring. Why comparative study? Just see how much you are developing love of Godhead, that’s all. Phalena paricīyate.
 
Now to the present day and solving the so called problem of getting initiated today by Srila Prabhupada thru his bona fide representatives.

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“Thus even if the devotees see the mischief-mongers, they do not accuse them for the sufferings inflicted. “

Hare Krsna-the below letters by SP to his disciples were meant to calm the fire of anger and dissension so many had towards each other at that time, and at the same time to keep them in the movement working for Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhus mission.
These letters and philosophical reasons are even more applicable today.
 
Now years later, we can partly see the philosophical reasons for these letters for now we have  most of the information needed to make informed decisions based upon the philosophy of Vaisnavism. One has to approach this with a cool head as Prabhupada used to say, in order to understand the proper course of our individual actions.
 
This article by Krsna’s grace, is in my humble opinion ,one of the best for proper understanding of overall Vaisnava behavior and action
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das
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Nov 5 1967 letter…
Please accept my blessings. Replying your letter dated Oct. 21, I quite appreciate your statement and I am happy that you have now taken care of the Gita Mss. I have already written to Hayagriva that the instructions which I impart are not dogmas. Our instructions are all based on sufficient logic and philosophy. The thing is that while conducting missionary activities it is quite natural that sometimes the situation may become very provocative, but we have to deal in these matters very carefully. The boy who spat upon the person of Kirtanananda must send a letter of regret and apology. That will be nice. You should always try to pacify the living entities in their rebellious propensities. These individual propensities are factual evidence for their becoming individual entities.
 
Note—Sometimes devotees say that the letters are not important because they deal mostly with someones individual situation and are not applicable to all. Yet here Prabhupada tells us his letters are not dogmas and they can apply to many others as well.
 
Nov 5 1967 letter...
We invite outsiders to come and hear our kirtanas but I think Kirtanananda might have been disturbing the peace of the Temple and therefore you all asked him not to enter the Temple. I do not know what had actually transpired but the incident is not very happy. If possible the boy who had spat upon Kirtanananda in the presence of Hayagriva must be requested to send a letter of regret and apology for the mistake he had done. I have already given you a list of good behavior for the devotees. The person who is a devotee must develop those good qualities. Kirtanananda’s attempt to defy me might have provoked all these undesirable incidences, but in the future we shall be very much careful to deal in such provocative situations; I can understand the provocation in this situation was set in motion by Kirtanananda’s uncalled for behavior. Hope you are well.
 
Note-Kirtnaandas “provacative” behavior started a long time ago and SP noted it.
 
 
Nov 18 1967 letter….
Please accept my blessings. Replying your letter of Nov. 9, I beg to inform you that Kirtanananda and Hayagriva’s recent standing is being directly dealt by me; at least Hayagriva is not as fanatic as Kirtanananda. His latest letter reveals that he is not out of Krishna Consciousness as we understand. The whole episode was generated by personal grudge. This personal grudge is not inhuman and as I have told many times, that individualism is the cause of personal misunderstanding. When such individualism is employed in the center of Krishna there is no harm even if there is personal misunderstanding. Personal misunderstanding exists even in the higher levels. There is competition of loving Krishna even in the party of Srimati Radharani. It is a kind of rasa to compete in loving affection centering around Krishna. We shall, therefore, try to bring back Hayagriva and Kirtanananda to their senses. After all we must understand that we are dealing with persons affected by Maya. Every one of us is under the influence of the external energy, Maya. The best way to get out of the clutches of Maya is to concentrate our attention in the loving service of Krishna. I understand that Hayagriva and Kirtanananda are continuing to chant Hare Krishna is their center. I hope therefore they will not go astray and the misunderstanding may be cleared up in due course of time. (Even amongst our God-brothers we have misunderstanding but none of us is astray from the service of Krishna. My Guru Maharaja ordered us to execute his mission combinedly. Unfortunately we are now separated. But none of us have stopped preaching Krishna Consciousness. Even if there was misunderstanding amongst the God-brothers of my Guru Maharaja none of them deviated from the transcendental loving service of Krishna. The idea is that provocation and misunderstanding may remain between one man and another. But our staunch faith in Krishna Consciousness may not allow any material disruption. Please therefore try to be sympathetic with any person even if they differ. The only qualification we have to scrutinize is if one is acting in Krishna Consciousness as far as one is able to do it.)
 
July 28 1969 letter
So far as your question about controversy amongst the disciples of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja, that is a fact. But this controversy is not material. Just like in a national program, different political parties are sometimes in conflict and make propaganda against each other, but their central point is always service to the country. Similarly, amongst the disciples of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati there may be some controversy, but the central point is how to preach the mission of His Divine Grace. If the central point is fixed up then there is no harm in such controversy. Every individual being must have his opinion; that is the significance of individuality, but all such differences of opinions must coincide in Krishna. In the battlefield of Kuruksetra were Arjuna and Bhisma who were fighting with one another, and because Krishna was on the side of Arjuna, sometimes Bhisma pierced the body of Krishna also with arrows. But still they remained the greatest devotees of the Lord, and Krishna accepted the friendship of Arjuna just as He accepted the inimical arrows of Bhisma in the same loving spirit. So you do not be disturbed by such controversial points. Better you engage your mind very seriously in the matter of the service entrusted upon you. That will make you progressive in Krishna Consciousness.
 
Note-These two are very instructive letters by Srila Prabhupada regarding how to deal with individuality amongst Godbrothers. He tells us that even in the Gaudiya matha, despite their disobeying their guru Srila Bhaktisddhanta Maharaja, Prabhupada considered that they were still engaged in the loving service of Krsna. So this is an important instruction when we deal with others who do not share the same “understanding” as we.

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Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura: Appearance day Sunday 19th Sept Sridham Mayapur time

Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura: Appearance day Sunday 19th Sept Sridham Mayapur time.

Bhaktivinod Thakur

    Sri Sacidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura appeared in 1838 in a wealthy family in the Nadia district, West Bengal. He revealed that he is an eternal associate of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu by his extraordinary preaching activities and prolific writing. Living as a, mahabhagavata Vaisnava, he stayed in the grhasta ashram until the last few years of his life. Then he renounced everything, accepted babaji, and entered samadhi, totally absorbed in the loving service of Gaura-Gadadhara and Radha-Madhava.
 
   “He had a responsible government position as the District Magistrate (high court judge), maintained a Krishna conscious family, and wrote almost one hundred books on Krishna consciousness. At the same time, he served the Supreme Lord in so many ways. That is the beauty of his life. After a full day of government service he would sleep four hours, get up at midnight and write until morning. That was his daily program.” (Srila Prabhupada)
 
   Thakura Bhaktivinoda took Vaisnava diksa from Sri Vipinvihari Goswami in the line of Sri Jahnava Mata. Afterwards, he received spiritual inspiration and direction from Srila Jagannatha Dasa Babaji. Holding an exalted government post, vast erudition, and spiritual accomplishment never disturbed Bhaktivinoda Thakura. He remained prideless, always humble, friendly to all. Charity seekers at his home always left happy and satisfied. A well-wisher to everyone, he never kept grudges, even with opponents to his preaching. In fact, he never spoke a word that would hurt another’s feelings. 

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Sri Vamanadeva avatara jayanti – Srila Jiva Goswami Tirobhava tithi Tuesday, September 10, 2019 [Mayapura, West Bengal, Bharata Bhumi]

Subject: Sri Vamanadeva avatara jayanti –
Srila Jiva Goswami avirbhava tithi [appearance day] Saturday, September 18, 201 [Mayapura, West Bengal, Bharata Bhumi time]
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Srila Prabhupada glorifies Sri Vamanadeva and Srila Jiva Goswami Prabhupada
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These questions are not to be discussed in public. These are very higher understanding-SP

Room Conversation about nature of the jiva soul
London August 17 1971
 
Prabhupāda: They will be visible in due course of time.
Śyāmasundara: What he was telling me was that the table itself has a jīva soul, that the table is a person.
Prabhupāda: No no.
Revatīnandana: So that’s what I was asking. ‘Cause I said, “Does the table have a jīva soul?” I was trying to ask that question.
Śyāmasundara:That’s what completely threw me off. I thought, “Oh…” That means the table is a person, this is a person, this is a…
Prabhupāda: A particular jīva soul was in that body. Then it is also proved that every jīva soul is individual. Although they are living combinedly, everything is individual.
Revatīnandana: Well, doesn’t… That’s all right then. Now the…
Prabhupāda: But that one jīva soul was prominent. He was visible. Others were in dormant condition. This proves that every individual soul is separate from the other; still, they can remain together. Just like the sunshine, they create… a small shining particles, combined together, molecules. So everything is combined spirit particles.
Haṁsadūta: Everything that we see around us, everything.
Prabhupāda: Everything. Sarvam idam khalv idaṁ brahma. Everything is Brahman. But when they are covered, that is called material exis...
Śyāmasundara: Each jīva is…
Prabhupāda: Just as sunshine is not covered, it is called cloudy. But this light, whatever light you are seeing, that is also sunshine. That is not different from the sunshine. And above the cloud, there is bright. So matter means when it is covered by something, it is matter. That covering is unconsciousness. That covering is also created of the sunshine, by the same energy. And then, by the same energy it is dissipated also. So the conclusion is living being, when it is covered by ignorance, that is material.
Revatīnandana: But this, the body itself is sort of a manifestation of ignorance.
Prabhupāda: Yes. When the ignorance is gone, then you have got spiritual body.
Revatīnandana: Then I know that I am not this body. Then I know that I am not this body. Now, the question is…
Prabhupāda: Then I am not ignorance.
Revatīnandana: Then there is some distinction, between the nature of the soul and the nature of the body.
Prabhupāda: That distinction is inconceivable. You cannot make clear distinction. Therefore it is called acintya.
Revatīnandana: The distinction between the soul and the body?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything. We distinguish matter and spirit. That distinction is inconceivable by you. You cannot make a clear distinction. Therefore it is called acintya bhedābheda tattva, inconceivable one and different, simultaneously.

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Srila Prabhupada re The beauty of Radharani

Srila Prabhupada explains the beauty of Radharani
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“Among the gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhikā is the foremost. She surpasses all in beauty, in good qualities, in good fortune and, above all, in love.” 

(Caitanya-caritāmṛta Ādi 4.214)

“The beauty of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī’s eyes forcibly devours the beauty of newly grown blue lotus flowers, and the beauty of Her face surpasses that of an entire forest of fully blossomed lotuses. Her bodily luster seems to place even gold into a painful situation. Thus the wonderful, unprecedented beauty of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is awakening in Vṛndāvana.” (Caitanya-caritāmṛta Antya 1.169, Purport)

“The beauty of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is described as follows: ‘Her eyes defeat the attractive features of the eyes of the cakorī bird. When one sees the face of Rādhārāṇī, he immediately hates the beauty of the moon. Her bodily complexion defeats the beauty of gold. Thus, let us all look upon the transcendental beauty of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī.” (Nectar of Devotion, Chapter 44)

“In the Vidagdha-mādhava, Second Act, verse 31, Kṛṣṇa tells His friend, ‘My dear friend, what a wonderful thing it is that since I have seen the beautiful lotus eyes of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, I have developed a tendency to spit on the moon and the lotus flower!’ ” (Nectar of Devotion, Chapter 50)

“There is no comparison to Radharani’s beauty and the luster of Her transcendental body. The so-called beauty of the moon has fallen on the ground in the presence of Radharani’s beauty.” (From Vrindavana by Srila Narottama das Thakura)

“Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī’s affection, Her exquisite beauty and good behavior, Her artistic dancing and chanting and Her poetic compositions are all so attractive that they attract the mind of Kṛṣṇa, who attracts the mind of everyone in the universe.” (Caitanya-caritāmṛta Madhya 17.212)

“Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī has stated that devotional service attracts even Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa attracts everyone, but devotional service attracts Kṛṣṇa. The symbol of devotional service in the highest degree is Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa is called Madana-mohana, which means that He is so attractive that He can defeat the attraction of thousands of Cupids. But Rādhārāṇī is still more attractive, for She can even attract Kṛṣṇa. Therefore, devotees call Her Madana-mohana-mohinī—the attractor of the attractor of Cupid.” (Nectar of Devotion, Chapter 1)

“Srimati Radharani is the most beautiful, and She always enchants Krishna, but at the same time, Krishna is always the Enchanter of Radharani. This reciprocal attraction of Radharani and Krishna is the basic principal of Lord Caitanya’s philosophy.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, May 22, 1969)

“In the Caitanya-caritāmṛta it is said that when Kṛṣṇa comes before Rādhārāṇī, She becomes so much engladdened by seeing the beauty of Kṛṣṇa that She becomes more beautiful. And as soon as Rādhārāṇī becomes beautiful, Kṛṣṇa becomes engladdened and He becomes more beautiful. So unlimitedly there is competition of becoming more beautiful, duhe lage hurai… That is the statement. Competition. Because in the spiritual world everything is unlimited. So unlimitedly, both of Them becoming beautiful and both of Them enjoying unlimitedly. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.”  (Srila Prabhupada Lecture, New Vrindavan, September 6, 1972)

“In the Lalita-mādhava, Rūpa Gosvāmī explains that the movements of Kṛṣṇa’s eyebrows are just like the Yamunā, and the smiling of Rādhārāṇī is just like the moonshine. When the Yamunā and the moonshine come in contact on the bank of the river, the water tastes just like nectar, and drinking it gives great satisfaction. It is as cooling as piles of snow.” (Nectar of Devotion, Chapter 44)

“In the words of Vaiṣṇava poets, it is said that the Lord’s beauty is so enchanting that it defeats hundreds of thousands of Cupids. He is therefore called Madana-mohana. It is also described that the Lord sometimes becomes mad after the beauty of Rādhārāṇī. Poets describe that under those circumstances, although Lord Kṛṣṇa is Madana-mohana, He becomes Madana-dāha, or enchanted by the beauty of Rādhārāṇī. Actually, the Lord’s beauty is superexcellent, surpassing even the beauty of Lakṣmī in Vaikuṇṭha. The devotees of the Lord in the Vaikuṇṭha planets want to see the Lord as the most beautiful, but the devotees in Gokula or Kṛṣṇaloka want to see Rādhārāṇī as more beautiful than Kṛṣṇa.”   (Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 3.15.42, Purport) Srila Prabhupada explains  The beauty of Radharanicompiled by APdmapani dasa

“Kṛṣṇa is the most beautiful, Rādhārāṇī is the most beautiful. Couple, young couple. Our object of worship when we see how nice Rādhārāṇī, how nice Kṛṣṇa, beauty. Yes. Wherefrom the beauty worship has come in this material world unless there is beauty in the original form, Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī? So, God cannot be nirākāra (without form). Otherwise, why this beauty worship has come?”   (Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Bombay, October 13, 1973)

“Rādhe jaya jaya madhava-dayite. How She is? Gokula-taruṇī-maṇḍala-mahite. Taruṇī, taruṇī means young girls. You’ll see the pictures, they are all young girls. But of all the young girls, She is the most beautiful. She is enchanting to the young girls also. She is so beautiful. Gokula-taruṇī-maṇḍala-mahite. Dāmodara-rati-vardhana-veśe. And She always dresses Her so nicely that Dāmodara, Kṛṣṇa, becomes attracted by Her beauty. Hari-niṣkuta-vṛndā-vipineśe. And She is the only lovable object of Kṛṣṇa, and She is the queen of Vṛndāvana. This queen of Vṛndāvana.”

(Srila Prabhupada Radhastami Lecture, Montreal, August 30, 1968)

“Madana means Cupid. Cupid enchants everyone. Cupid. And Kṛṣṇa enchants Cupid. Therefore, His name is Madana-mohana. He’s so beautiful that even Cupid is enchanted by Him. But again, on the other side, Kṛṣṇa, although He’s so beautiful that He enchants the Cupid, still He is enchanted by Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. Therefore, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī’s name is Madana-mohana-mohinī. Kṛṣṇa is the enchanter of the Cupid, and Rādhārāṇī is the enchanter of that enchanter. So these are very high-grade spiritual understanding in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not fiction or imagination, concoction. They are facts. They are facts. And every devotee can have such privileges if he is actually advanced.”   (Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Los Angeles, April 23, 1973)

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The Bona fide guru can be present wherever the disciple wants–SP

Hare Krsna-below are many statements by Srila Prabhupada regarding the Absolute nature and potency of the Lords pure devotee. Kindly consider them in light of many many present day mis-conceptions.
“Just as Krishna can be present simultaneously in millions of places. Similarly, the spiritual master can be present wherever the disciple wants. A spiritual master is the principle, not the body. Just like a television can be seen in thousands of places by the principle of relay monitoring.”
 
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, May 28, 1968)
 

June 8 1976
Bharadvāja: I understand, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that the pure devotee can be as pervasive as Supersoul?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Bharadvāja: By the mercy of Supersoul, he can be present in many places at once?
Prabhupāda: Yes. By the grace of Kṛṣṇa, a devotee can become anything.
Duryodhana-guru: So in other words that means the pure devotees can be omniscient?
Prabhupāda: Everything. God is omniscient, so a pure devotee can become omniscient by the grace of God.

“There is no difference between me and my picture. Therefore we

should honor and keep pictures in that spirit. If we throw pictures
this way and that way, that is offence. The name and picture are as good as the person in spiritual world. In the material world either picture or person, everything is illusion.”  (Srila Prabhupada Letter, September 4, 1972)

 

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Radharani Talks to a Bumblebee

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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 Radha Astami [Mayapura, West Bengal, Bharata Bhumi]
Subject: Radharani Talks to a Bumblebeecompiled by Padmapani dasa

https://www.prabhupadaconnect.com/Radharani-Talks-to-a-Bumblebee.html

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Srimati Sita Thakurani Avirbhava Tithi [appearance day] – Saturday, September 11., 2021 [Mayapura, West Bengal, Bharata Bhumi time]

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“Kṛṣṇa is always prepared to accept you”

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“Kṛṣṇa is always prepared to accept you”compiled by Balarama dasa, Australia

Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Ādi-līlā 7.108 Audio for this lecture: https://prabhupadavani.org/transcriptions/670218ccsf/

San Francisco, Feb. 18, 1967

Excerpts:

“Bhaktijana: But Kṛṣṇa will always be there if we want to go back?

Prabhupāda: Eh? Kṛṣṇa is always prepared to accept you. He’s always prepared. But because He has given us independence, we misuse it and we fall under the clutches of māyā. That is our misfortune. We create this misfortune, and we can create our good fortune. “Man is the architect of his own fortune.” So if you become Kṛṣṇa conscious, it is to your good fortune. If you become māyā conscious, it is to your bad fortune. You are the creator.

Bhaktijana: When the souls that were never conditioned at all…, do they also have the independence?

Prabhupāda: Yes, but they have not misused. They know that “I am meant for Kṛṣṇa’s service,” and they are happy in Kṛṣṇa’s service.

Bhaktijana: Could they ever misuse it?

Prabhupāda: Yes, they can misuse it also. That power is there. Yes?

Devotee: Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Kṛṣṇaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back.

Prabhupāda: No! There is possibility, but he does not come. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it again if you are really intelligent. So those who are going back to Godhead, they become intelligent. Why going back to Godhead?

Just like we are in renounced order of life. So we have renounced our family life after thinking something. Now, if somebody comes, “Swāmījī, you take thousand millions of dollar and marry again and become a family man,” I’ll never become, because I have got my bad experience. I’ll never become.

So if one is intelligent enough, if he has got actually the bitter taste of this material world, he’ll never agree. He’ll never agree. But those who have not advanced to such knowledge, oh, they think, “Oh, this material enjoyment is very nice. Let me taste it and let me do business in my sannyāsī life, and stealthily and privately, let me enjoy.” These things are going on. That means they have no taste. They come to hospital-making or this philanthropy. This come again.

Bhaktijana: Has my soul ever been liberated?

Prabhupāda: That you know. I do not know.

Bhaktijana: If I was once liberated…

Prabhupāda: You are liberated. You are liberated. Simply just a cloud has covered you. Drive away the cloud. There is no question that you were ever. You are ever-liberated. That, the sky is always spiritual, but it is sometimes overcrowded with cloud, this māyā. This is called māyā. Actually, you are not conditioned. You are thinking. Just like in the dream you are thinking that tiger is eating you.

You were never eaten by tiger. There is no tiger. So we have to get out of this dream. Don’t you sometimes dream that tiger is eating you? Is there any tiger? You are simply thinking. So if you keep in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that nonsense thinking will go away. Therefore we have to keep ourself always in Kṛṣṇa-thinking, so that this dream will never come. If you are always awakened, then dream never comes. So keep yourself always awakened by Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

All right. Distribute prasādam. [end]”

Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Ādi-līlā 7.108

San Francisco, Feb. 18, 1967

Audio for this lecture: https://prabhupadavani.org/transcriptions/670218ccsf/

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Subject: “There are many karmīs in the dress of devotees”

Srila Prabhupada: SB 8/9/28 Purport.

“..There are many karmīs in the dress of devotees, but the Supreme Personality of Godhead can detect their purpose. The karmīs want to use the property of the Lord for their selfish sense gratification, but a devotee endeavours to use the Lord’s property for God’s service. Therefore a devotee is always distinct from the karmīs, although the karmīs may dress like devotees…”

: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/9/28

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