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Sri Murari Gupta

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Cosmic Conspiracy: Reality vs Illusion

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Universal Citizens Forum — Srila Prabhupada

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If a previous ācārya has already written about something, there is no need to repeat it for personal sense gratification

ei līlā varṇiyāchena dāsa vṛndāvana

ataeva saṅkṣepa kari’ kariluṅ varṇana

SYNONYMS

ei līlā—this pastime; varṇiyāchena—has described; dāsa vṛndāvana—Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura; ataeva—therefore; saṅkṣepa—briefly; kari’—doing; kariluṅ varṇana—I have described.

TRANSLATION

This incident has been described in detail by Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura. Therefore, I have described it only in brief.

PURPORT

This is a matter of etiquette. If a previous ācārya has already written about something, there is no need to repeat it for personal sense gratification or to outdo the previous ācārya. Unless there is some definite improvement, one should not repeat.: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/12/150

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Several QAs with Srila Prabhupada

Several QAs with Srila Prabhupada
Letter to Caturbhuja — Los Angeles 9 May, 1973: May 09, 1973

My Dear Caturbhuja,

Please accept my blessings. I beg to aknowledge receipt of your letter dated April 27, 1973. Thank you very much.
In answer to your several questions, first; what is meant by conditioned sould? Conditioned soul means one who has accepted something illusion as reality. Conditioned means that due to imperfect desires the spirit soul becomes dependent on material conditions for his satisfaction.

Your second question; how does he become conditioned when the jivatma is eternal full of bliss and knowledge? The answer is that it is not the soul itself that becomes mixed with matter but it is his consciousness that becomes absorbed in trying to enjoy the matter. Out of desire to lord it over, the jiva soul forgets that he is eternal, full of knowledge and full of bliss and identifies with the material energy. So it is the consciousness of the conditioned soul that is affected.

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Srila Prabhupada: Already successful – No successor required

Srila Prabhupada: Already successful – No successor
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Will the power of the kṣatriyas will be in the hands of the Kṛṣṇa conscious persons sometime during this Kali-yuga?

Will the power of the kṣatriyas will be in the hands of the Kṛṣṇa conscious persons sometime during this Kali-yuga?

Morning Walk — March 11, 1975, London:
Devotee (1): Śrīla Prabhupāda, will the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will take over the world eventually?

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Devotee (1): Is going to take over the world eventually some time during the Kali-yuga, in this Kali-yuga?

Prabhupāda: No, that is not possible, because only the fortunate persons will take.

Devotee (1): I mean, but will the power of the kṣatriyas will be in the hands of the Kṛṣṇa conscious persons sometime during this Kali-yuga?

Prabhupāda: Provided you become very expert to preach. Unless you preach, how they will take? (break)

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Becoming Guru in ISKCON

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Becoming Guru in ISKCON

Back To Prabhupada, Issue 68, Vol 1, 2021GBC member and ISKCON Minister of Communications Anuttama Dasa (“AD”) gave an interview in which he explained the GBC’s system for “creating” GBC gurus. All quotes in shaded boxes are taken from this interview published on 28/7/20. Emphases added.Everyone become guruSrila Prabhupada stated:“Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu…Yare dekha, tare kaha ‘krsna’-upadesa: “You become guru. No qualification required. […] Anyone can do it, even a child. […] Three words: Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead; surrender unto Him; and chant Hare Krsna. Your life will be successful. […] Everyone can become guru by simply teaching these three words.”
(Room Conversation, 26/1/77)Srila Prabhupada makes it clear that Lord Caitanya’s order for everyone to “become guru” requires one to have no qualification and thus even a child can do it, because it only requires one to simply state 3 things: Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, surrender unto Him, and chant Hare Krsna. These are the same basic preacher gurus, or simple siksa gurus, mentioned in the article on pages 4-5. Thus, since to become guru requires no qualification, such that even a child can do it very easily, one does not require special training to become such a guru. However, to be a GBC guru requires a special training program:”we’ve instituted training for people before they can become a guru […] we create systems to lift up those people and help them in their service and help them perform that service for their guru. […] when they [the public] hear that they go ‘Wow. Actually I’ve never heard of an organization with gurus that has training for gurus.'”Thus, the GBC is not creating the gurus Srila Prabhupada actually ordered, which require no qualification, never mind a special guru training program.Not bona fide diksa gurusRather, this training program is supposedly for creating diksa gurus – or those who initiate disciples and take responsibility for delivering them back to Godhead – as successors to take Srila Prabhupada’s position as ISKCON’s diksa guru. However, Srila Prabhupada never gave any orders for such a guru.Under the GBC’s guru system, “technically” someone who could be an “idiot” can become a guru, and the gurus can make mistakes because they have “flaws”:”technically I could become a diksa guru […] people might come up and say ‘he’s an idiot, don’t let him do it’, but technically there’s no barrier […] that doesn’t mean because I start being a guru tomorrow I’m perfect in the sense I’m never going to do anything wrong. You know, I’m a human being, I’ve got flaws […]”However, Srila Prabhupada teaches that a bona fide diksa guru must be liberated and does not commit mistakes:“Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer must be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Krsna, or His bona fide representative the spiritual master, can re-lease the conditioned soul.”
(Bg., 7.14, purport)“Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws […]”
(SB, 1.3.24, purport)Need to protect GBC gurus”We say well, yeah, because guru is meant to be as good as God […] And at the same time we need to have checks and balances and we need to have systems in place to protect our leaders. Like brahmacari […] That doesn’t mean we don’t have systems in place to make sure the brahmacaris go to mangala-arati […]”Echoing the points just made, AD accepts that the diksa guru is meant to be “as good as God”. However, AD then goes on to justify the GBC’s guru training program by comparing the GBC gurus to regular brahmacaris, who need systems in place to make sure they “go to mangala-arati”, and thus the GBC gurus also need “checks and balances” and “systems” to “protect” them. But brahmacaris are not meant to be “as good as God”, whilst real diksa gurus, because they are “as good as God”, do not require to be supervised to be protected:“An authorized spiritual master is as good as Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. If Hari is free to act as He likes, the empowered spiritual master is also free. As Hari is not subject to the criticism of mundane rules and regulations, the spiritual master empowered by Him is also not subjected.”
(Cc., Madhya-lila, 10.136)Need to protect discipleTherefore, due to these flawed GBC gurus, there is a corresponding training program for the would-be disciples of the GBC gurus, and one part of the training program deals with what to do if the guru “has a difficulty”:”we even talk about what to do if your guru has a difficulty. We’re open about these things”The interviewer asks how there can even be a need to “train” a guru when the guru is supposed to be an “enlightened person”. AD explains that the training program is required to try to rein in potential false gurus because:”disciples and followers have just had their hearts broken and their spiritual life crushed, and they go away faithless. So, you know, it’s Kali-yuga, we have to protect people, protect their faith.”Thus, AD is stating that the GBC is supporting a situation whereby fallible gurus are allowed to run rampant at the risk of crushing people’s spiritual lives, and this “guru training” is an attempt to try to protect people from these wobbly “Kali-yuga” gurus.ConclusionThe GBC’s “guru training” program to create diksa guru successors to Srila Prabhupada is not authorised. Nor is it even based on the concept of a bona fide diksa guru. Rather, it is based on the idea that ISKCON’s GBC guru system enables one to pretend to be “as good as God” without actually needing to be on this level, and therefore training and supervision is required to help pull off this fraud.One could of course instead just accept Srila Prabhupada as one’s diksa guru, since he actually is “as good as God”, and it was what he ordered should happen in ISKCON.
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Lotus feet of Nityananda, Krishna, and Radha.
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6 proofs

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6 Proofs

SUMMER 2005
 

The great Guru hoax: Parts 1 and 2

By 1977, Srila Prabhupada had built ISKCON into a confederation of many dozens of temples, farm communities and restaurants, and accepted 10,000 disciples. He had also authored dozens of books of spiritual knowledge of which over 150 million had been distributed in all the major languages of the world. Shortly before his passing he issued a directive to all ISKCON centres and Governing Body Commissioners (GBC the senior managers running the movement) to be implemented immediately in ISKCON.
The directive, which is reproduced here , sets out a system by which Srila Prabhupada would continue to accept disciples without the need for him to be physically present on the planet. As you will read in the directive, he names 11 senior secretaries who were entrusted with accepting new recruits into the movement as direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada. The directive clearly states:

“The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative.”

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  • Myth: Tamal Krishna Goswami authored July 9th 1977 directive, and Srila Prabhupada just signed it; so TKG’s explanation of the directive, which he gave later, should be followed.
  • Myth: According to July 9th directive, names of new disciples were to be sent “to Srila Prabhupada,” so this contradicts the idea of a permanent ritvik system.
  • Myth: Ritvik initiation system was introduced in ISKCON because Srila Prabhupada was ill, so July 9th, 1977, directive was meant to set the system up just temporary- only for the period of Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence.
  • Myth: If one can take shelter of Srila Prabhupada now, then one can become a diksa disciple of some previous acarya like Rupa Gosvami or Narada Muni.
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Fundamental Articles

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Study Guides

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Srila Prabhupada Siddhanta Book

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Krishna Consciousness Fundamental Documents

  • Srila Prabhupada's July 9th, 1977 Letter
  • Analysis of Srila Prabhupada's July 9th Letter
  • Constitution of Association
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Atma (Soul)

  • The Soul and Karma
  • The soul and consciousness
  • The majority of souls are in the spiritual world
  • How the soul goes from one body to the next

Science and Darwinism

  • "Atheists–Blind Bluffers"
  • "Death Is God"
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  • Stop Demonism
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Varna-Asrama

  • Dasyu dharmabhih-as predicted-govt men will be plunderers of all in this age-SP
  • First Solve the economic problem-then social, religious, political all solved-SP
  • ON BECOMING SELF INDEPENDENT-SP
  • The Transcendental Appearance of Lord Vamana Dev-Varnashram also explained
  • Positive Alternative – Join us and live the good life!
  • Photo Essay-Your Morning Oatmeal-from field to bowl
  • The Immense Value of Growing Your Own Food
  • Transcendental Field Trip
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Editorials

  • Proposal for Starting a Preaching Center
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  • OUR LIVING GURU
  • Church of "Arddha Kukkuti Nyaya"
  • Reply to Rocana dasa's speculation about chanting mantras and preaching in South India
  • An Open Invitation

By Mahesh Raja

  • Formalities
  • Eighty-eight miles
  • P R A S A D A M
  • The Prediction
  • Disciplic Succession
  • Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah
  • WHEN I Order
  • Diksa Given to Madhyama-adhikari is Not a Formality
  • WHO IS SRILA PRABHUPADA'S DISCIPLE?
  • Writing From The Transcendental Platform

By Damagosha dasa

  • One MOON-is what Prabhupada wants
  • 25 very potent warnings from Srila Prabhupada
  • Srila Prabhupada and the Deprogrammers
  • Belonging to Krsna's Family
  • Sunday Morning With Srila Prabhupada
  • Real Necessity
  • The total madness of Kali-yuga
  • The Immense Value of Growing Your Own Food
  • "That was my asset- His blessing!"
  • How Changes Take Place in Prabhupada's Hare Krishna Movement
  • Please Prabhu
  • Glories of Lord Nityananda Prabhu Avadhuta
  • Hare Krishna Society Washington State
  • For Your Viewing Pleasure

By Radha Krsna dasa

  • Some Obey Him
  • RITVIK SUMMARY Elementary, My Dear Watson
  • The Greenhorn Factor

By Narasimha dasa

  • Dark Energy and the Land of Light
  • Evolution of Cartoon Science
  • The Key to Transcendental Knowledge: Shushruma Dhiranam
  • Lessons From Kishkinda: All Things Must Pass
  • Transcending the Curse of Material Existence
  • Udupi Krishna Kshetra and Traditions of Vaisnava Culture
  • Avoiding Useless Debate and Misleading Association
  • Srimad-Bhagavatam Class (Topic: Attentive Chanting)
  • Transcending the Curse of Material Existence
  • Hear, Sing and Accept Prabhupada's Approved Editions
  • Evolution of Cartoon Science
  • The Curious Story of A1 Milk
  • Guru Evolution
  • Siksa-Diksa Reply
  • A Reply to Sri Rama das
  • HKS Ashland, Oregon
  • A Rebuttal of the GBC’s False Doctrine
  • Law Books for Mankind: The Final Authority

By Yasodanandana dasa

  • RE: Facebook and Other Social Networking Sites
  • Authority of the Acarya
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  • THE LILAMRTA REVIEW
  • THE TRADITION OF DEBATE
  • Gaudiya Vaisnava Biographies Time, Place and Circumstance

By Gauridas Pandit dasa

  • ~ The Golden Avatar ~
  • "Do Not Change My Words!"
  • No Response From The GBC

By Hasti Gopala dasa

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  • Regarding Jayadvaita's Smoke and Mirrors
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Book Changes and Book Distribution

  • "Just by reading my books they are initiated."
  • A Glimpse Into Some of the Changes to Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad-Gita As It Is
  • A Question Of Authority
  • Alternative Book Distribution- You don’t have to go to the parking lots.
  • An Appeal to Jayadvaita Swami
  • Arsha Prayoga – Resistance To Change
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  • Book Changes and BBT Oversight
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  • HIDDEN CO-AUTHORS
  • More On Book Changes
  • Never before released book changes list
  • Never before released book changes list
  • Oh, it is a very great mistake.
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  • Rascals are concerned with the grammar
  • Scholars Review Srila Prabhupada's Books
  • Srila Prabhupada's desire to have the revised books be returned the original way (first edition)

Vapu/Vani

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  • What I have given…
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  • Guru Evolution
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  • Ritvik Srila Prabhupada's Way
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  • Śrīla Prabhupāda on “Prabhupāda said.”
  • Keeping the acarya in the center
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  • Who is that rascal?
  • The Position of Imitation Spiritual Masters
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  • Srila Prabhupada's System for Initiations part two
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  • How The Parampara Is Lost
  • Inciting Hatred For Ritviks
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  • Srila Prabhupada's Ritvik System is authorized
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  • GBC Suppressed The Truth
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Festivals/Events

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Acaryas-Pure Devotees

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Srila Prabhupada's Srimad Bhagavatam Classes Summary

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  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: I
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: II
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: III
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: IV
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  • Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: III
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