Hare Krishna Society

Amar Puri says:24. December 2021 at 6:22 pm

Respected Jitarati Prabhu,

Sadar Pranam. AGTSP.

First of all, allow me to clarify that we are on the same pace of understanding and in the agreement that the Hand written note of Srila Prabhupada on the letter of Shri Radhavallabha das Prabhu to Srila Prabhupada dt. August 31, 1976, not dated Sept.07,1976 which reads ; ” whatever he has done is alright I have faith in him “.

In Srila Prabhupada’s response:Letter to: Radhavallabha
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Vrindaban
7 September, 197676-09-07
Los AngelesMy Dear Radhavallabha das,Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letters dated August 25 and 31 and have noted the contents.Concerning the editing of Jayadvaita Prabhu, whatever he does is approved by me. I have confidence in him. Your changes which I have seen of the sanskrit synonyms is also approved by me. Tanmayataya refers to the fact that the trees and the father were absorbed in the same feelings……..

Both these letters can be read here at this link ;

https://prabhupadanugasworldwide.org/important-points-and-questions-on-21000-changes-in-srimad-bhagavatam-first-four-cantos/

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Mahesh Raja says: 27. December 2021 at 6:30 am

Jitarati Prabhu, can you comment on this:

https://krishnastore.co.uk/srimad-bhagavatam-set-original-first-edition-30-volume-h-krishna-502.html

Versus this:

List of articles published on unauthorized red 10 volume SB changes

1. Exposing the offensive changes in the so-called original Srimad Bhagavatam: The Red “not-original” Srimad Bhagavatam has so many pages,lines and verses cut off from the second and fourth cantos
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33156

2. Important points and unresolved questions on 21000+ changes in Srimad Bhagavatam (first four cantos) [They supporters could not answer a single question correctly, instead resorted to ill-name calling and personal attacks on their websites]
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33107

3. The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many important lines, pages and verses.
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33088

4. Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33247

5. Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre 1978)
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33244

6. Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33197

7. Detecting Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/detecting.html

This 10 Volume set cannot be called the original set as it has the same changes that are found in the links below(it is not the 1972 print). Also Srila Prabhupada had never instructed to take out the front covers of the books and merge them as 10 cantos.

Google drive with Srila Prabhupada’s first edition unrevised, non adulterated, original books.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nHm72gVwAeei95WDkSLf2aw5x-jRXDoF?usp=sharing
Another folder for Srimad Bhagavatam 1972 on-wards first edition original books:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1am9rKGII3wMrmkyxHp85hfjMjgnWGzT9?export?format=pdf

Note: To download/print the files containing changes: Click on the above link. Then click File -> Export/Print -> Side-by-Side view respectively.

Canto 1: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/UTXTvIzsNrmu
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/cupjyEEYuyGn
Chapters 9-12: https://draftable.com/compare/yllqQqNZSlgP
Chapters 13-16: https://draftable.com/compare/VCGEgShIgbNU
Chapters 17-19: https://draftable.com/compare/pMtvfQINaQtE

Canto 2: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/wwucNCVgfccF
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/iimgbZjLWGTk
Chapters 9-10: https://draftable.com/compare/VaeVzKEAplpN

Canto 3: (Over 4000 changes)
Chapters 1-5: https://draftable.com/compare/WBtcORNEGUtA
Chapters 6-11: https://draftable.com/compare/EZtdJyOoixCD
Chapters 12-16: https://draftable.com/compare/WMdbAnBHPWcF
Chapters 17-22: https://draftable.com/compare/PWktcoYEdibW
Chapters 23-26: https://draftable.com/compare/zTHMikJhqgiF
Chapters 27-31: https://draftable.com/compare/HIsgZlxBsjPM
Chapters 32-33: https://draftable.com/compare/MFPehjhLQCun

Canto 4: (Over 5000 changes)
Chapters 1-6: https://draftable.com/compare/ushTtFMkmfIq
Chapters 7-10: https://draftable.com/compare/AkqAwNZEppIn
Chapters 11-16: https://draftable.com/compare/MQvlEISQSJVR
Chapters 17-21: https://draftable.com/compare/OjFXdGtBAdNz
Chapters 22-23: https://draftable.com/compare/dEfZIREardwX
Chapters 24-26: https://draftable.com/compare/NfFVFBiJXaSG
Chapters 27-29: https://draftable.com/compare/QzYaMiIksWiK
Chapters 30-31: https://draftable.com/compare/uNPTJpGUBUdi

2. Important points and unresolved questions on 21000+ changes in Srimad Bhagavatam (first four cantos) [Their supporters could not answer a single question correctly, instead resorted to ill-name calling and personal attacks on their websites]:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33107

3. The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many important lines, pages and verses:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33088

4. Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS):
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33247

5. Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre-1978):
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33244

6. Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33197

7. Detecting Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books:
https://harekrishnasociety.org/detecting.html

This 10 Volume set cannot be called the original set as it has the same changes that are found in the links below (it is not the 1972 print). Also Srila Prabhupada had never instructed to take out the front covers of the books and merge them as 10 cantos.

Canto 1: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/UTXTvIzsNrmu
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/cupjyEEYuyGn
Chapters 9-12: https://draftable.com/compare/yllqQqNZSlgP
Chapters 13-16: https://draftable.com/compare/VCGEgShIgbNU
Chapters 17-19: https://draftable.com/compare/pMtvfQINaQtE

Canto 2: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/wwucNCVgfccF
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/iimgbZjLWGTk
Chapters 9-10: https://draftable.com/compare/VaeVzKEAplpN

Canto 3: (Over 4000 changes)
Chapters 1-5: https://draftable.com/compare/WBtcORNEGUtA
Chapters 6-11: https://draftable.com/compare/EZtdJyOoixCD
Chapters 12-16: https://draftable.com/compare/WMdbAnBHPWcF
Chapters 17-22: https://draftable.com/compare/PWktcoYEdibW
Chapters 23-26: https://draftable.com/compare/zTHMikJhqgiF
Chapters 27-31: https://draftable.com/compare/HIsgZlxBsjPM
Chapters 32-33: https://draftable.com/compare/MFPehjhLQCun

Google drive with Srila Prabhupada’s first edition unrevised, non adulterated, original books.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nHm72gVwAeei95WDkSLf2aw5x-jRXDoF?usp=sharing

April 22 1974 Hyderabad conversations/mock debate with Srila Prabhupada

“That is the point. If you love God, then why you disobey His order?”

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Prabhupāda: …principles? What we should inform to the people in general?

Pañcadraviḍa: I try to remember that Lord Caitanya, He informed that the purpose of all Vedic literatures is to acquaint people with their relationship which they have forgotten with God, to teach them how to engage themself in that relationship and to understand that the goal is to come to pure love of God…..

Prabhupāda: No, they will say that “We have not forgotten God. We go to church regularly.” And the Mohammedans will say that “We go to mosque. So why we have forgotten God?”

Pañcadraviḍa: Going to church or mosque… When we are speaking to the people, we don’t discourage that they change their religion or anything.

Prabhupāda: No. You, your charge is that they have forgotten God. They will answer that “We have not forgotten God. We are going to church, we are going to our mosque. Why we have forgotten God?”

Pañcadraviḍa: Because they are not serving Him… [break] …relationship. They are not actively serving Him. They are engaging themselves… We see practically that some people say they are theists…

Prabhupāda: Then what is the meaning of service?

Pañcadraviḍa: Service means a relationship of serving out of love. So people are simply serving their stomach or…

Prabhupāda: “So if I haven’t got love, then why I am coming to church?“

Satsvarūpa: Well, we’re educating them what is God. They go to church, but they don’t know. “What is your idea of God?” We ask them.

Prabhupāda: “Whatever it may be, when I offer my prayers, I remember there is some God. I may not have clear idea. I have got my own conception of God.” So what is the answer?

Satsvarūpa: Well, there are symptoms if you… We don’t discourage, as Pañcadraviḍa Mahārāja says, but if you are following God, the best religion is that which develops love of God.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is answered. “If I haven’t got love for God, then why I am coming to church?”

Pañcadraviḍa: If you have love for God, why you are coming to church?

Prabhupāda: No. “Because I have got love for God, therefore I am coming to church. At that time I could have earned some money.“

Pañcadraviḍa: But we’re also teaching that this love, love is not just based on sentimentality. Love is also practical. Just like in this world, when there is relationship between man and woman, there is a practical exchange of love. It is not simply that love is only based on words. Also one is based on actions. We can judge how much a man is developing love by what his activities are.

Prabhupāda: “So what you have found in me that you have concluded that I have no love for God. What you have seen in me?”

Pañcadraviḍa: I have not concluded that… When I speak with a person, I do not say, “I have concluded that you have no love of God.”

Prabhupāda: “You say. That you have charged, but on what account you say like that? What I have done?”

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Aug 5 1976 French farm-New Mayapura

Bhūgarbha: He doesn’t think he’ll be able to follow the life of the Vaiṣṇavas, because our life is too difficult.

Prabhupāda: That attitude will help him. That humbleness, that “I cannot follow,” that will help.

Bhūgarbha: He says he has a tendency more of a jñānī, and his training has been according to Śaṅkarite and also Buddhist lines. But still he appreciates very much bhakti, and he is very happy to meet the devotees, and at the same time he’s very depressed to meet all these intellectuals who know so many things but cannot understand anything.

Prabhupāda: Without becoming jñānī, nobody can become bhakta. Without knowledge, if one has become bhakta, he’s sentimentalist. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, find out this verse. Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām [Bg. 18.54]. brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām

(French translation read) So without becoming fully in knowledge, nobody can become devotee.

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Below we have the definitive statements by Srila Prabhupada as to WHO if the real guru.

Some will accept and understand this and many will never get it

The bona fide spiritual master must be able to see Krsna and talk with Him-face to face. This is not some figurative idea but the actual reality.

Srila Prabhupada….”Yes. A spiritual master must have seen Kṛṣṇa.Without seeing, he cannot be spiritual master.But how Kṛṣṇa can be seen? Kṛṣṇa can be seen by love. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena [Bs. 5.38]. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti. Just like if you are in love with somebody, you can see him constantly—he is always on your eyes, anyone you love—so similarly, Kṛṣṇa also can be seen by development of love. Otherwise how we can see Kṛṣṇa? He is so great, unlimited. Your eyes, your senses, are all limited. You cannot see the unlimited by your limited sense perception. But you can see… Not you can see, but svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ.When you are developed in the sense of love of Godhead, then He reveals unto you. Therefore you can see. “

Srila prabhupada’s Lecture : Bhagavad-gita 4.34-39 — Los Angeles, January 12, 1969

Srila Prabhupada…”So this adhokṣajam, Kṛṣṇa, we have to worship. Adhokṣaja. So we cannot see if it is beyond our sense perception. How we can worship Him?Therefore you have to take shelter of the spiritual master who has seen Him.“Srila Prabhupada’s Lecture : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.25 — Los Angeles, August 28, 1972

Srila Prabhupada…”When the devotee sees the Supreme Personality of Godhead by his meditation, orwhen he sees the Lord personally, face to face, he becomes aware of everything within this universe.Indeed, nothing is unknown to him.Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a devotee who has seen the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”

The Demigods and Demons Declare a Truce : SB 8.6.9 : Srila Prabhupada’s PURPORT :

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July 14 1976 interview with reporter-guru must see God face to face-not figuratively

Interviewer: But in the same way that Kṛṣṇa says He’ll provide for your needs you still must work to achieve whatever Kṛṣṇa is giving you.

Prabhupāda: Yes. You work for Kṛṣṇa. You have to work to get your necessities.

Interviewer: In the same way I’m curious with respect to the way Kṛṣṇa communicates with you, whether it’s in a similar kind of way that He gives you your necessities.

Bali-mardana: In other words, when you decide that someone is to be in charge of a particular temple does Kṛṣṇa tell you that this person should be in charge.

Interviewer: Or do you by judging him say this person is qualified.

Prabhupāda:Yes, because a devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and He gives order.

Interviewer:It’s a more direct communication.

Prabhupāda:Yes. And He gives order.

Rāmeśvara:Because intelligence, our philosophy is that intelligence comes from Kṛṣṇa. So if I have some…

Interviewer: And your philosophy is that your daily necessities come from Kṛṣṇa as well.

Rāmeśvara:Yes, try to understand. Suppose my intelligence sees that this person is qualified, that means Kṛṣṇa has told me.

Prabhupāda:No, not necessarily, Kṛṣṇa will tell directly. A devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa tells him, “Do like this.” Not figuratively.

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Below we have the definitive statements by Srila Prabhupada as to WHO if the real guru.

Some will accept and understand this and many will never get it

The bona fide spiritual master must be able to see Krsna and talk with Him-face to face. This is not some figurative idea but the actual reality.

Srila Prabhupada….”Yes. A spiritual master must have seen Kṛṣṇa.Without seeing, he cannot be spiritual master.But how Kṛṣṇa can be seen? Kṛṣṇa can be seen by love. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena [Bs. 5.38]. Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti. Just like if you are in love with somebody, you can see him constantly—he is always on your eyes, anyone you love—so similarly, Kṛṣṇa also can be seen by development of love. Otherwise how we can see Kṛṣṇa? He is so great, unlimited. Your eyes, your senses, are all limited. You cannot see the unlimited by your limited sense perception. But you can see… Not you can see, but svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ.When you are developed in the sense of love of Godhead, then He reveals unto you. Therefore you can see. “

Srila prabhupada’s Lecture : Bhagavad-gita 4.34-39 — Los Angeles, January 12, 1969

The Demigods and Demons Declare a Truce : SB 8.6.9 : Srila Prabhupada’s PURPORT :

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July 14 1976 interview with reporter-guru must see God face to face-not figuratively

Interviewer: But in the same way that Kṛṣṇa says He’ll provide for your needs you still must work to achieve whatever Kṛṣṇa is giving you.

Prabhupāda: Yes. You work for Kṛṣṇa. You have to work to get your necessities.

Interviewer: In the same way I’m curious with respect to the way Kṛṣṇa communicates with you, whether it’s in a similar kind of way that He gives you your necessities.

Bali-mardana: In other words, when you decide that someone is to be in charge of a particular temple does Kṛṣṇa tell you that this person should be in charge.

Interviewer: Or do you by judging him say this person is qualified.

Prabhupāda:Yes, because a devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and He gives order.

Interviewer:It’s a more direct communication.

Prabhupāda:Yes. And He gives order.

Rāmeśvara:Because intelligence, our philosophy is that intelligence comes from Kṛṣṇa. So if I have some…

Interviewer: And your philosophy is that your daily necessities come from Kṛṣṇa as well.

Rāmeśvara:Yes, try to understand. Suppose my intelligence sees that this person is qualified, that means Kṛṣṇa has told me.

Prabhupāda:No, not necessarily, Kṛṣṇa will tell directly. A devotee always consults Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa tells him, “Do like this.” Not figuratively.

Interviewer:Does that apply then to other kinds of decisions and other kinds of activities as well?

Prabhupāda:Everything. Because a devotee does not do anything without consulting Kṛṣṇa.

Bali-mardana: But that applies to a very greatly elevated soul, that is not an ordinary person.

Prabhupāda:That is,therefore the minor devotees, they consultthe spiritual master. That is our process. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **.

Rāmeśvara:I see, I was trying to explain the minor devotees.

Interviewer: No, I was talking about…

Rāmeśvara: You’re talking about the topmost level.

Interviewer: Yes.

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Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading

first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )

Compiled by Yasoda nandana dasa

“WE MUST READ WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS. ABOVE IMAGE SHOWS SRILA PRABHUPADA READING THE 1972 SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM FIRST CANTO. NO MORE ARGUMENTS AFTER SEEING THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF TAKING PLEASURE IN READING THE FIRST EDITIONS.”

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