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I was just reading the following few pages today in the Make Vrndavana booklet comprised entirely of conversations with Srila Prabhupada. The below four quotes are only within a few pages of this book. There is so much information in Prabhupadas statements. These are about guru tattva… Please read ….

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Prabhupada: Sarva-sastre kaya, lava-matra sadhu-sange sarva-siddhi
haya. For me, personally, I had the opportunity to talk with my
spiritual master not more than ten times in my whole life, not more.
It may be less than that. But I tried to follow his instruction,
that’s all, although I was a grhastha.

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So in the above statement by Srila Prabhupada we hear him saying he was with or heard his guru maharaj not more than ten times, maybe less than ten times..

So how was Srila Prabhupada getting instructions (DAILY) from his guru? Over a span of many years (he met Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj around 1920, and he passed away in 1935. So over the course of 15 years he was with him less than 10 times. So if you want to average it out, to less than once a year assuming ten meetings of the two personalities. So in those few short times, he got some instructions, the main one we know was “if you get money print books”, and the other one was “preach to the english speaking people of the world, it will do good to you and them”. And I am sure there were a few more..

So my point here is this: How was Srila Prabhupada getting daily instruction, guidance, inspiration, etc from a guru he only met less than once a year?? Could you even run a mundane family/business/temple on one instruction a year? No of course not. It takes thousands…

And the instructions Prabhupada told us he got were mainly only the above two? Hardly much information for starting a world wide organization one would think? Where did all the extreme details about Krsna Consciousness come from that you will find in Srila Prabhupadas books ?? Did he just pull these out of the air? Concoct them?
And what about getting guidance AFTER Bhaktisiddhanta maharaj left his body?This is when he wrote his books.

Everyone knows, Prabhupadas books and purports are his “devotional ecstasies” and they came from Lord Krsna thru the mercy of his guru maharaj Bhaktisiddhanta Maharj-WHOM HE ONLY MET LESS THAN ONCE A YEAR.

So this whole idea of needing a “LIVING GURU” is rubbish.

What is “living” is not the physcial body

but the spiritual/vani/instructions which comes thru that body.

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Nothing is Necessary-just Krsna–

(Below we see how Srila Prabhupada explains the defects in out thinking process where we “think” so many things are “necessary”)

1.)July 14 1975 Philadelphia

Ravīndra-svarūpa: What is the advantage of a tree, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: You see how they are standing there for five thousand years. You cannot do it. You cannot do it even for five minutes.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Actually the trees are absolutely necessary for the survival of animals.

Prabhupāda: That is another thing. We say nothing is necessary, simply Kṛṣṇa is necessary. That is material conception: “This is necessary. This is necessary.” But Kṛṣṇa says, “Nothing is necessary.” Sarva-dharmān parityajya [Bg. 18.66]. You are simply planning and becoming entangled with so-called “necessary.“

Svarūpa Dāmodara: But that is on the spiritual platform.

Prabhupāda: You can create spiritual platform immediately. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān [Bg. 14.26]. If you fully engage yourself in devotional service, immediately you are above this material conception.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So the concept that the three modes of material nature, they’re working all species, so it’s not the…

Prabhupāda: They are directing. Just like in the jail there are different departmental management, similarly, this management is required because you are in the jail. If you don’t go to jail, the management may be closed. But you are thinking, “If I do not go to jail, how it will exist?” That is your business, say that “If we all become liberated, how this world will go on?” They say like that, as if it is very necessary.

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Los Angeles
25 January, 1969

My Dear Mr. Levine,

Please accept my blessings. I am so pleased to read your letter of January 21, 1969 and to learn of your sincere eagerness to serve Krishna in the best capacity of your talents. There is a Sanskrit proverb that says that there is not any better knowledge than to become a musician. Our Krishna Consciousness movement is practically based upon music and dancing. If by your exceptional qualities you can help in this movement, I think you have been sent by Krishna Himself to help me in this connection.

How to overcome all the nasty conditions of this Kali yuga-

SB 1.1.10

prāyeṇālpāyuṣaḥ sabhya

kalāv asmin yuge janāḥ

mandāḥ sumanda-matayo

manda-bhāgyā hy upadrutāḥ

“O learned one, in this iron age of Kali men have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky and, above all, always disturbed.”

The people in this age are very short-lived and slow in understanding spiritual life.

Hare Krsna-The above verse is a short summary of conditions and mankind himself in this present age of Kali. Even though we are all fool number one, still we all think we know something of everything. Especially when it comes to spiritual life. Therefore Krsna, has sent us His pure devotee Srila Prabhupada who is giving us the short cut but concise and effective path in this degraded age of how to go back to home back to Godhead.

The five purports below give us a summary of how fallen we are.

The final answer of what to do is at the end of the below quotes.

1.)Feb 20 1973 Aukland

Their first qualification is their life is very short, short span of life. Then the next, mandāḥ, lazy. They do not know, ill-educated. They do not know what is the aim of life. Mandāḥ or slow. Sumanda-matayo, and if one is really, not really, but superficially so-called spiritually they will capture some baba, some god, some yogi, some bluffer, and they will follow them. Sumanda-matayo. So many religious sects have come out but originally there is this Vedic religion. But after that, so many religions they have come, so they have got history. I know this Christian religion, Mohammedan religion, Buddhist religion, Jain religion, this religion, that religion, this ism, that ism, they are all history. History. It is limited, within the limit of time. But this Vedic religion has no beginning or end. Therefore, Sumanda-matayo, they will theorize, “In our religion it is said this.” “Oh, whatever your religion may be, but the real purpose of religion is to understand God. How far you have understood God?” That is practically nil. But the formulas and dogmas and this and that they’re full of. Sumanda-matayo. Mandāḥ sumanda-matayo manda-bhāgyā [SB 1.1.10]. And almost everyone is unfortunate. They haven’t got even means to accommodate the bare necessities of life—eating, sleeping, mating. They’re also deficient. mandāḥ sumanda-matayo manda-bhāgyā hy upadrutāḥ. And above all these there is always disturbance. Sometimes war, sometimes famine, sometimes earthquake, sometimes this, overflood… Now in this condition of life how you can take up very serious type of self-realization, that is not possible.

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Srila Prabhupada presents the glories of Sri Gadadhara Pandita

compiled by Yasoda nandana dasa

gadādhara-paṇḍitādi–prabhura nija-śakti

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Disappearance day of Sri Vrindavana dasa Thakura,

April 21, 2017 Thursday

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June 11 1974 Paris

Prabhupāda: Yes. Śakuni, yes. They’re vultures, and their civilization is vulture-eater. The animal-eaters, they’re like jackals, vultures, dogs. They’re similar to these animals, the animal-eaters. It is not human food.Here is human food. Here is civilized food, human food. Let them learn it. Uncivilized, vultures, rākṣasas, and they’re leaders. Therefore, I say all fourth-class men, they are leaders. Therefore the whole world is in chaotic condition. We require first-class men to lead. We are first-class men. Take our advice, and then everything will be all right. We are creating first-class men. What is the use of fourth-class men leading? All fourth-class men. If I say so frankly, people will be very angry. All fourth-class men. Basically, they’re all fourth-class men. … So the human being, having higher intelligence, they should learn how to control the senses. This is human life. Human life means controlling. I give this example. Just like in the… In your country, there is no such shop. In our country, the confectioner’s shop is on the roadside, very nice. You have seen in India. They have prepared very nice, nice preparation and exhibited. People come and purchase. So animals, cows, as soon as they take some opportunity, they push their head and take something. Get away.

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Now, the animal, the cow is passing, and a human being is also passing. But the human being, although he’s hungry, he likes to take some of the preparation, but he’ll not do like that animal. He knows that “I have no money. So I shall have to restrain my tongue.” That is human being.

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“There are two verses in the Canaka Sloka how a family or an institution can be glorified or burned into ashes by one person. The Canaka Pandit says that if there is one tree in the forest producing nice aromatic flower,[Srila Prabhupada] that one tree can glorify the whole forest by the flavor of its flower. Similarly if there is one tree in whose cavity there is a little fire, that one tree can burn into ashes the whole forest. So this simile is applicable anywhere. In a family if there is one good boy, he can glorify the whole family and similarly if there is bad boy he can turn the whole family into ashes. Similarly in this institution if there is a bad disciple he can burn the whole institution into ashes.”

(Srila Prabhupada Letter to Bali Mardan, August 25, 1970)

But the good news is this:

Oct 30 1976 letter-

They are now feeling the weight of this movement. Formerly they thought these people come and go, but now they see we are staying. Now we have set fire. It will go on, it cannot be stopped. You can bring big, big fire brigades but the fire will act. The brainwash books are already there. Even if they stop externally,internally it will go on. Our first class campaign is book distribution. Go house to house. The real fighting is now. Krsna will give you all protection. So, chant Hare Krsna and fight.

Formerly the cheating and criminal leaders of Iskcon thought the “ritviks’ would come and go, even banned some of us from our spiritual masters temples, but now they see we are not only staying but increasing in numbers and that the vast majority of devotees in and out of iskcon want Prabhupadas Original books, not the changed ones ! And this totally infuriates them, but they can do nothing about it. Prabhupada once said the temples may come and go, but these books will remain and do everything!

The fire will act internally as Srila Prabhuapda mentions above. You cannot kill desire- by a fire brigade or managerial repression. As the general mass of devotees wake up, they will see what happened to the Original Hare Krsna Movement and what is now being done to correct all the problems.

Hare Krsna

damaghosa das

1. April 28 1969 —The Power of Liberation comes by the association of devotees

Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram. If you accept this way of life, then your spiritual life will be open. Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimukteḥ [SB 5.5.2].

Vimukteḥ means… Vimukti. Mukti means liberation, and, adding the word, vi… Vi means specifically liberation. …So mahat-sevāṁ dvāram, if you associate with great souls… Our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to produce some great souls. If people get opportunity to associate with great souls, then automatically his path of liberation will be open. Mahat-sevāṁ dvāram āhur vimukteḥ [SB 5.5.2]. And tamo-dvāraṁ yoṣitāṁ saṅgi-saṅgam. And if you associate with persons who are simply interested in sense gratification, then you must know that your door for going into the darkest region of ignorance is open. Two doors: one door to the path of liberation, and one door to the path of darkest region of ignorance.

2.Dec 7 1973 LA- Perfection is serving Krsna with devotees, not alone

But think of Kṛṣṇa, is it very difficult task? Very simple, very easy, even a child can do it. Here is Kṛṣṇa. You can think of. So you go on thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, you will be attached. You will be attached. You will be attached. Ādau śraddhā tataḥ sādhu-saṅgaḥ [Cc. Madhya 23.14-15]. And thinking of Kṛṣṇa in association of the devotees. Not alone, then you will go to hell. Alone will not do. Association is so strong that anyone who is coming to our association, we…, not that we are everyone teaching, but by association, he wants to become devotee. By association, automatically. So the association is so powerful. Therefore Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says,he is praying, “My dear Lord, this is my ambition, birth after birth.” What is that? “That to be engaged in the service of the ācārya guru, and in the association of devotees. This is perfection.” Janame janame haya ei: “This is my desire. I don’t want to stop my birth, but simply I want that I may take birth—it doesn’t matter—but bhakta-sane vāsa, let me live with the devotees.” That is the…Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says,he says that “If I forget You and take by birth as Lord Brahmā, I don’t want it. I don’t want it.” What is the use of taking a birth like Brahmā? “But I shall like to take my birth as even a small insignificant insect, where a devotee is there.” This is the ambition of devotee. . So Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that “I will not prefer a birth like Brahmā if I forget You. But I will prefer to become an insect if I remain with Your devotee.” Because if one remains with a devotee, he will not forget Kṛṣṇa. That is the advantage

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Hare Krishna Society

Prabhupada explains his history with his guru and guru tattva principles

We say nothing is necessary-just Krsna

Kill guru become Guru

Sanskrit proverb says no better knowledge than to become a musician

How to overcome all the bad effects of this degraded age

Sri Gadadhara Pandita tirobhava tithi [disappearance day ]Wednesday April 26, 2017 [Mayapura, West Bengal, India time]

Srila Prabhupada glorifies the unique position of Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakur

SP explains that a human who cannot control his senses is an animal

SP sums up why original iskcon was destroyed and how it will be saved

Devotee Association is the only way to advance