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This is a short video presentation(above) about how Chinese wealth has been buying up properties in Canada and USA.

Below is a short version of my story- of how I dealt with rising housing prices-and satisfied Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krsna at the same time.

I have three adult children who all live in Seattle, just 75 miles down the road , south of the border,from Vancouver-and none of them right now are able to afford buying a house in Seattle either today or the near future because of what the market is doing by driving up housing prices thru the roof.

This has become a major problem for people in cities all over the world where concentrated and imported wealth drives out the lower and middle class people, who were the ones who developed these places in the first place.

Ironically,I also just looked at some pamphlets a couple days ago, put out by our local city (Sedro Woolley Wa) and our local county where it explains the average income and average house values. These figures are way below what goes on just 75 miles south of us in Seattle. Here, a house, a very nice house with some land around it, is affordable for the average workers income level. So according to the statistics from the county, this place, where we now live has seen a 70% increase in population in the last 10-20 years, most of it being lately. And the population now is just only 11,000 people. Compare that amount to the population of say Seattle for instance–they have around 3 million people all crammed into one smallish area that has one of the worst traffic problems in America.

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Sri Raghunandana Thakura tirobhava tithi [disappearance day] –

Thursday, July 27, 2017 =Mayapura, West Bengal, India time]

Gaura Goapl and Gopinath of Raghunandana Thakur, Shrikhand).

Srila Prabhupada and Sri Krsna dasa Kaviraja describe

the exalted position and gloriesof Sri Raghunandana Thakura

compiled by Narasimha dasa and Yasoda nandana dasa

kāśīte lekhaka śūdra-śrīcandraśekhara

tāṅra ghare rahilā prabhu svatantra īśvara

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Deity worship to keep us from becoming “transcendental frauds”

Sep t 17 1973 Bombay

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, we just fixed up the place. The day you arrived was the first day it was painted. Until then, it was not fit for anyone to come in. It was very nasty.

Prabhupāda: But you are living since a long time there.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have been living, but we have not invited others there.

Prabhupāda: No, you invite others or not, whether your program was going on?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, till then it wasn’t, Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Then it was simply a joint mess, that you go and collect and come and eat and sleep.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That is very dangerous. Then you will all fall down. If you make a joint mess, if you go and collect something and then eat and sleep, then everything will be… Therefore I do not want to keep separate. The temple worship means there will be regulative principles, that you will have to rise early in the morning, you have to attend class, kīrtana… These things, as soon as you give up all these things, zero. Then it will be like karmīs, as they are, hard labor, collecting money, and enjoying senses. That’s all. So that is the pitfall everywhere. In the church, temple, as soon as they get some nice income, then in the name of “priest,” “sādhu,” “sannyāsī,” they do the same thing. Therefore Gosvāmīs, they left everything. That is the danger of viṣaya, viṣaya touch. Viṣaya chāḍiyā se rase majiyā. As soon as we give up this śravaṇam, kīrtanam, then it becomes viṣaya. Viṣaya means materialism. There is no spiritualism. Kṣurasya dhārā, kṣurasya dhārā. Kṣura means sharpened razor. If you are careful, you cleanse very nicely. If you are not careful, immediately blood. Immediately. So the spiritual life is like that. As soon as you become little inattentive, immediately māyā captures, “Yes, come on.” Then everything failure. We have got the tendency to enjoy sense. So senses are strong. As soon as there is opportunity, the senses will take advantage immediately. Then your whole business finished, Choṭa Haridāsa, and rejected by Mahāprabhu, “Get out.” Even associate of Caitanya Mahāprabhu failed, personal associate. So there is chance of falling down even from the personal association of God. Jaya-Vijaya, they had to become demons. So these are the… If we do not follow strictly our regulative principles, routine work, then the whole scheme will be failure. Then, instead of Christianity, it will be “churchianity.” You know this word, “churchianity?” You know? Yes. Everywhere this churchianity is going on. And the real aim is how to enjoy sense, under different cover. That is going on all over the world. Therefore it has come to that Rajneesh. Ramakrishna Mission, Rajneesh mission. Vivekananda has given preached, Yata mata tata patha, Rajneesh also, a mata. They have got also followers. Everyone can manufacture his own way of religion. So sense enjoyment, there is free field. This material world means sense enjoyment. But spiritual life means no sense enjoyment, tapasya. Tapo divyam. Sense enjoyment is there even in the hogs. Then where is the difference between man and hog? The man means the more he has denied sense enjoyment, he is advanced. Otherwise the spirit of sense enjoyment there is in the hogs. That is the difference. Nāyaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛloke kaṣṭān kāmān arhate viḍ-bhujāṁ ye [SB 5.5.1]. These ordinary men, they are working so hard, but what is their aim? The aim is sense enjoyment. So keeping the point, sense enjoyment, in view, there is no difference between hogs and human beings. Because they are also working day and night, hogs. A particular animal has been mentioned in the śāstra. Nāyaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛloke. This ayaṁ deho nṛloke, in the human society, is not meant for working so hard simply for sense enjoyment because this spirit is visible even in the hogs. Then what it is meant…? Tapaḥ. Tapasā brahmacaryeṇa [SB 6.1.13]. That is the point. Śamena, damena. Satya-śaucābhyām. Everything is there. And there are different types of sense enjoyment: rūpa, rasa, gandha, śabda, sparśa, six kinds. And each sense, there is an object of sense enjoyment. There is eyes, oh, beautiful woman, sense enjoyment. Maithunam, sex life, there are eight kinds of sex. If one thinks within the mind about sex enjoyment, that is also sex. So anyway, that is the danger, keeping a separate department for money collecting. Then it will turn: “Collect money, eat nicely and sleep nicely.” And to live in the temple, at least, one is forced to rise early in the morning, take bath, to have darśana. They’ll get regulated life. Therefore this temple worship is needed because we are so impure.

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Hare Krsna-

For those of you who did read my previous article (Are All Krsna Kirtans the same?) here is more proof from a devotee who personally witnessed Srila Prabhupada’s reaction to devotees going to Sridhara Maharajs matha in Navadvipa.

Dear Prabhu.

Pamho,Agtsp.

Early on in my spiritual life,I consider my self to have been very fortunate that I had been able to spend 82 days with Srila Prabhupada.

During that golden time I remember very clearly so many of Srila Prabhupas instructions.Especially his instructions about not associating with anyone from the Gaudia Math.

In 1974 ,along with Balaram and Ugrasrava,I attended the Mayapur Gaura Purnima festival.Each day Achuytananda (Maharaja) would take us out on Parikram to all the holy places.In those days we went on Pakrikram daily,not like at present where they go out,and camp out all week.

One day Achuytananda took us on Parikram over to Navadwip and after visiting a few holy places we ended up at Sridar Maharajas ashram.

We were greeted by Sridhar Maharaja ,and then he gave a talk.I couldn,t understand a word he said as his English was hard to understand.Then the Math served us lunch prasad.One thing I will never forget,because they served Bengali style HOT sweet rice. The first time I had hot sweet rice and it was so relishable.

On returning to our temple,Achuytananda reported to Srila Prabhupada about the days Parikram.

Previously Achuytananda had arranged to go to Sridars ashram,but he never told Srila Prabhupada.

When told that we had gone to Sridhars ashram,Srila Prabhupada was furious.He asked,what did Sridhar say ?

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“As long as one is under the clutches of māyā in the material energy, one has to engage in sinful activity. Bhagavad-gītā describes such people as duṣkṛtinaḥ, which indicates that they are always engaged in sinful activity. One who is liberated in this life does not commit any sinful activities. Sinful activity involves illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. Another symptom of a liberated person is vijara, which indicates that he is not subjected tothe miseries of old age. Another symptom is vimṛtyu. A liberated person prepares himself in such a way that he does not take on any more material bodies, which are destined to die. In other words. he does not fall down again to repeat birth and death. Another symptom is viśoka, which indicates that he is callous to material distress and happiness. Another is vijighatsa,which indicates that he no longer desires material enjoyment. Another symptom is apipātā, which means that he has no desire other than toengage in the devotional service of Kṛṣṇa, his dearmost pursuable Lord.

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The Govindam Prayers (just some of them)

From Śrī Brahma-saṁhitā
By His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura

This collection is taken from the fifth chapter of the Hymns of Brahma, and includes verse 1, and 29-56. There were 100 chapters in the Brahma Samhita. This 5th chapter of the Brahma Samhita was discovered by Lord Caitanya during His appearance. The other chapters have not yet been revealed.

TEXT 1

īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ
sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ
anādir ādir govindaḥ
sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam

īśvaraḥ—the controller; paramaḥ—supreme; kṛṣṇaḥ—Lord Kṛṣṇa; sat—comprising eternal existence; cit—absolute knowledge; ānanda—and absolute bliss; vigrahaḥ—whose form; anādiḥ—without beginning; ādiḥ—the origin; govindaḥ—Lord Govinda; sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam—the cause of all causes.

TRANSLATION

Kṛṣṇa who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.

TEXT 29

cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-
lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhir abhipālayantam
lakṣmī-sahasra-śata-sambhrama-sevyamānaṁ
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

cintāmaṇi—touchstone; prakara—groups made of; sadmasu—in abodes; kalpa-vṛkṣa—of desire trees; lakṣa—by millions; āvṛteṣu—surrounded; surabhiḥ—surabhi cows; abhipālayantam—tending; lakṣmī—of goddesses of fortune; sahasra—of thousands; śata—by hundreds; sambhrama—with great respect; sevyamānam—being served; govindam—Govinda; ādi-puruṣam—the original person; tam—Him; aham—I; bhajāmi—worship.

TRANSLATION

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, the first progenitor who is tending the cows, yielding all desire, in abodes built with spiritual gems, surrounded by millions of purpose trees, always served with great reverence and affection by hundreds of thousands of lakṣmīs or gopīs.

*TEXT 30

veṇuṁ kvaṇantam aravinda-dalāyatākṣam-
barhāvataṁsam asitāmbuda-sundarāṅgam
kandarpa-koṭi-kamanīya-viśeṣa-śobhaṁ
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

veṇum—the flute; kvaṇantam—playing; aravinda-dala—(like) lotus petals; āyata—blooming; akṣam—whose eyes; barha—a peacock’s feather; avataṁsam—whose ornament on the head; asita-ambuda—(tinged with the hue of) blue clouds; sundara—beautiful; aṅgam—whose figure; kandarpa—of Cupids; koṭi—millions; kamanīya—charming; viśeṣa—unique; śobham—whose loveliness; govindam—Govinda; ādi-puruṣam—the original person; tam—Him; aham—I; bhajāmi—worship.

TRANSLATION

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is adept in playing on His flute, with blooming eyes like lotus petals with head decked with peacock’s feather, with the figure of beauty tinged with the hue of blue clouds, and His unique loveliness charming millions of Cupids.

TEXT 31

ālola-candraka-lasad-vanamālya-vaṁśī-
ratnāṅgadaṁ praṇaya-keli-kalā-vilāsam
śyāmaṁ tri-bhaṅga-lalitaṁ niyata-prakāśaṁ
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

ālola—swinging; candraka—with a moon-locket; lasat—beautified; vana-mālya—a garland of flowers; vaṁśī—flute; ratna-aṅgadam—adorned with jeweled ornaments; praṇaya—of love; keli-kalā—in pastimes; vilāsam—who always revels; śyāmam—Śyāmasundara; tri-bhaṅga—bending in three places; lalitam—graceful; niyata—eternally; prakāśam—manifest; govindam—Govinda; ādi-puruṣam—the original person; tam—Him; aham—I; bhajāmi—worship.

TRANSLATION

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, round whose neck is swinging a garland of flowers beautified with the moon-locket, whose two hands are adorned with the flute and jeweled ornaments, who always revels in pastimes of love, whose graceful threefold-bending form of Śyāmasundara is eternally manifest.

*TEXT 32

aṅgāni yasya sakalendriya-vṛtti-manti
paśyanti pānti kalayanti ciraṁ jaganti
ānanda-cinmaya-sad-ujjvala-vigrahasya
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

aṅgāni—the limbs; yasya—of whom; sakala-indriya—of all the organs; vṛtti-manti—possessing the functions; paśyanti—see; pānti—maintain; kalayanti—manifest; ciram—eternally,; jaganti—the universes; ānanda—bliss; cit—truth; maya—full of; sat—substantiality; ujjvala—full of dazzling splendor; vigrahasya—whose form; govindam—Govinda; ādi-puruṣam—the original person; tam—Him; aham—I; bhajāmi—worship.

TRANSLATION

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose transcendental form is full of bliss, truth, substantiality and is thus full of the most dazzling splendor. Each of the limbs of that transcendental figure possesses in Himself, the full-fledged functions of all the organs, and eternally sees, maintains and manifests the infinite universes, both spiritual and mundane.

TEXT 33

advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam
ādyaṁ purāṇa-puruṣaṁ nava-yauvanaṁ ca
vedeṣu durlabham adurlabham ātma-bhaktau
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

advaitam—without a second; acyutam—without decay; anādim—without a beginning; ananta-rūpam—whose form is endless, or who possesses unlimited forms; ādyam—the beginning; purāṇa-puruṣam—the most ancient person; nava-yauvanam—a blooming youth; ca—also; vedeṣu—through the Vedas; durlabham—inaccessible; adurlabham—not difficult to obtain; ātma-bhaktau—through pure devotion of the soul; govindam—Govinda; ādi-puruṣam—the original person; tam—Him; aham—I; bhajāmi—worship.

TRANSLATION

I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is inaccessible to the Vedas, but obtainable by pure unalloyed devotion of the soul, who is without a second, who is not subject to decay, is without a beginning, whose form is endless, who is the beginning, and the eternal puruṣa; yet He is a person possessing the beauty of blooming youth.

April 11 1971 sydney

Prabhupāda: The thing is, there are three qualities of men, and each one’s feeling of pleasure is different. Just like there are crows, and there are swans. The crows take pleasure in a different way, and the swans take pleasure in a different way. That is natural. The crows are different from the swans, although they are birds, but because they are being conducted under different qualities of nature, their propensities are also different. So one may take pleasure by howling and drinking, and one man takes pleasure by chanting and dancing in Hare Kṛṣṇa. It is a different quality only. So in the Bhagavad-gītā everything is divided into three divisions. There are religions of different qualities, and there are actions of different qualities. Exactly the same example: as there are differences between the crows and the swans, similarly there are different persons in the human society. One class of person, they take pleasure in one class of thing, and another person, they take in a different type. So that divisions will continue so long we are in this material world. But we are talking of original consciousness. These are contaminated consciousness. When we come to the original consciousness, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We are trying to bring everyone to that platform. That is our program. [break] …we explain… Just like when the water from the sky drops on the ground, immediately it becomes muddy.

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HARE KRSNA TO ALL-

After reading this article (below) over, I thought that there are probably many (not just some on my email list) others who will not agree with this assertion –that all Krsna kirtans are NOT the same.

So for those of you who do not agree, then please , I humbly submit, prove to me and others why you feel this way.

If you think that all Krsna kirtans , no matter who leads and sings them, are the same and equally beneficial,then you must prove it based upon Srila Prabhupadas books or any other recognized Vaisnava Acarya in our disciplic succession.

This is the way of making progress in spiritual life. Not thru sentiment, not thru concoction, but thru sastra sadhu and guru.

Hare Krsna

damaghosa das

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Hare Krsna-below we are trying to show how by good or bad association we advance or not, spiritually. This means we must know who is good and who is bad association. The below letters and conversations are meant to show any intelligent devotee whom he should avoid as there seems to be more BAD association than good association out there these days. For those who are just ignorant or innocent, good preaching can change all that. For those who are puffed up, they will never accept good instruction from the bona fide Acaryas, or those who directly quote the Acaryas..

Canaka pandit tells us that you cant find rare jewels on the head of every snake, or pearls in every elephants head,nor sandlewood in every forest. Similarly to find good devotee association is also very difficult, but it can be found, if one is serious, and one’s life becomes sanctified by that association.

So below we have attempted to show the history , according to Srila Prabhupada of the Gaudiya matha then and still today. Some people think all kirtans are the same if Krsna or Rams names are chanted. That is not always true as we can find out by reading below.

Madhya 1.271--Thus Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu chastised all the devotees, telling them not to show impudence and spoil the entire world by becoming independent.

PURPORT–Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu warned all His followers not to become independent or impudent. Unfortunately, after the disappearance of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, many apa-sampradāyas (so-called followers) invented many ways not approved by the ācāryas. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has described them as the āula, bāula, kartābhajā, neḍā, daraveśa, sāni sahajiyā, sakhībhekī, smārta, jāta-gosāñi, ativāḍī, cūḍādhārī and gaurāṅga-nāgarī. The āula-sampradāya, bāula-sampradāya and others invented their own ways of understanding Lord Caitanya’s philosophy, without following in the footsteps of the ācāryas. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself indicates herein that all such attempts would simply spoil the spirit of His cult

TLC-Ch.18-On the other hand, there are many so-called devotees who think Vedānta is not meant for devotees. Such people are ignorant of the fact that Vedānta is the only platform of pure devotees. All the great ācāryas of the four Vaiṣṇava sampradāyas have made commentaries on the Vedānta-sūtra, but the so-called devotees known as prākṛta-sahajiyā carefully avoid the study of Vedānta-sūtra. The prākṛta-sahajiyā mistakenly take the pure devotees and Vaiṣṇava ācāryas to be mental speculators or fruitive actors. Consequently they themselves become Māyāvādīs and leave the service of the Supreme Lord.

Comment-So just from these two quotes and there are many more, we can see that Bhaktivinode Thakur saw it fit to list the 13 sahajaiya cults present at his time.And now there are many more. So if “all kirtans are the same”, then why did the Thakur list these 13 bogus cults who professed to be “devotees of Caitanya”?? It means they were not the same as the actual followers of Lord Caitanya . Srila Prabhupada told us his books would do everything even if the temples all failed. That means the fall back position was his books, for the rest of kali yuga. The books would be our guides.

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Deity Worship to keep from becoming “transcendental frauds”-SP

Warning-Do not go to the Gaudiya matha–SP

The symptoms of a liberated soul

A morning meditation

Krsna Consciousness means going from howling and drinking to chanting and dancing–SP

Are all Krsna Kirtans the same?—- No