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REFUTATION OF VEDAVYAS’S “REBUTTAL OF THE RITVIK PHILOSOPHY”

First of all the author Vedavyas misunderstands the subject of his rebuttal of “Prabhupada Siddhanta” as so-called ritvik philosophy. Actually Srila Prabhupada himself in his July 9, 1977 letter to all GBC and temple presidents worldwide is the basis for the so-called ritvik philosophy vis-à-vis initiating new diciples on his behalf for after his physical disappearance. So the author’s own lack of understanding and/or ignorance of Srila Prabhupada’s ritvik subject matter disqualifies his entire rebuttal as mere strawman arguments missing the real point. However, the author’s thinking is so distorted from vaissnava philosophy that I will point out his own mistatements and delusions of the collective.

Contrary to Vedavyas’s belief, the parampara is a line of uttama adhikaris exclusively that cannot be rubber stamped, voted in, or appointed.. Anyone less than uttama adhikari is insufficient in knowledge and guidance and thus subject to maya. Think on this as much as you can for it is an absolute truth regarding how Krishna tattva descends in this material world from the beginning of creation to the end. mahajana yena gatah sa pantha “follow the path of the great souls” Continue reading →

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All Glories to Srila Prabhupad!

Please accept my humble obeisances

Hope all those who agree with the Ritvik system will cooperate to bring back Srila Prabhupada as Current Diksa Guru -  even if we have some differences:

77-01-13. Letter: Jayatirtha     The Christmas distribution in England is unimaginable. Europe is a great field for preaching. New York-Radha Damodara and Los Angeles have already accepted defeat. This transcendental competition is very encouraging. But combined together, we must defeat Maya and her influence. WHEN THE KURUS AND THE PANDAVAS USED TO FIGHT, THERE WERE 100 BROTHERS ON ONE SIDE, AND 5 BROTHERS ON THE OTHER SIDE. BUT WHEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PARTY, THEN THE 105 BROTHER WERE TOGETHER. IN THIS WAY, WE MUST COOPERATE TO SPREAD KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS.

76-01-05. Letter: Satsvarupa Everything should be done co-operatively. "Our" and "your's" are material conceptions and have no place in our Krishna Consciousness movement. If the members of our movement are unable to co-operate it will be very difficult to spread the mission of Lord Caitanya. 72-11-18. Letter: Madhumangala Regarding general state of affairs at Amsterdam temple, I can understand there is some disturbance among you, but that is not to be taken very seriously. Real business is preaching work, and if there is full attention on this matter only, all other businesses will be automatically successful. Fighting amongst ourselves is not at all good, but if our preaching work is neglected, or if we fall down in following the regulative principles such as rising before four, chanting 16 rounds, like that, if these things are not strictly observed then maya will enter and spoil everything. So my best advice to you is to strictly observe these things yourself and be the example so that all others may follow. WE SHOULD NOT CRITICIZE EACH OTHER, AS VAISNAVAS, BECAUSE THERE IS FAULT IN EVERYONE AND WE MAY BE OURSELVES SUBJECT TO CRITICISM. BEST THING IS TO BE ABOVE SUSPICION OURSELVES, THEN IF WE SEE DISCREPANCIES AND MAKE SUGGESTION THE OTHERS WILL AUTOMATICALLY RESPECT AND TAKE ACTION TO RECTIFY THE MATTERS. THAT IS COOPERATION. AND WE MUST EXIST ON SUCH COOPERATION, OTHERWISE THE WHOLE THING IS DOOMED IF WE SIMPLY GO ON FIGHTING OVER SOME SMALL THING. So try to organize things and preach together in this spirit, and that will please me very, very much.

Hare Krsna!

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Tampering with Prabhupada’s personally typewritten sanskrit translations by Ajit Krishna Dasa

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By Ajit Krishna Dasa and Bhaktin Anna Nygaard

In regard to the posthumous editing of Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Jayadvaita Swami has expressed (emphasis added by Arsa-Prayoga staff):

1982:

“Comparing each verse in the book with the text of the manuscript, I made only those changes that to me seemed worthwhile. I tried to be conservative and not make needless changes.” (Jayadvaita Swami, letter to senior devotees, October 25, 1982)

1986:

“As you know, and as we kept in mind while doing the work, Srila Prabhupada staunchly opposed needless changes.” (Jayadvaita Swami, Letter to Amogha Lila, 1986)

1995:

“When Srila Prabhupada conveyed to us the conclusions of the previous acaryas, he did so perfectly, preserving and transmitting the philosophy exactly as it is, neither watering anything down, nor covering anything over, nor leaving anything out. He gave us the essence of everything.

We therefore don’t need to add anything, subtract anything, or change anything. We need only faithfully serve Srila Prabhupada’s orders, and everything will be revealed.” (Jayadvaita Swami, Sri Vyasa Puja book August 19,1995)

2009:

On BBT International’s website we find this video: Continue reading →

Why is the Ritvik System bonafide? by Urdhvaga Das (ACBSP)

Why the Ritvik System is bonafide! BECAUSE Srila Prabhupada says so!. We don’t say like this. It is Srila Prabhupada who says, that the Ritvik System is to be followed after his departure. Why you rascals contradict Srila Prabhupada?:

Satsvarupa: “Then our next question concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when you’re no longer with us. We want to know how first and second initiations would be conducted.” (May 28th discussion)

Prabhupada: “Yes; I shall recommend some of you. After this is settled up, I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating acharyas.”

Tamala Krsna: “Is that called ritvik-acharya?” Prabhupada: “Ritvik yes.”

The question arises, why all of those “anti-ritvik proponents” are against Srila Prabhupada? Why you rascals are so offensive to Srila Prabhupada, calling him a “Ritvikist” and other bad names, not following his instruction? Why do you reject His statement, concocting your own philosophy? Why do you denigrate HIS words of “ritvik”, derogating His instructions to follow the Ritvik-Initiation-System? Continue reading →

New post on Arsa-Prayoga TAKING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT’S DUE by Ajit Krishna Dasa

By Rupanuga das, ACBSP

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The revised and enlarged edition of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is (BGAII), as published by the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust (BBT) 1983, disregards the academic community’s protocols or standards governing the revised editions of the books. According to the guidelines now widely accepted and practiced by publishers and academicians, the names of editors and co-authors of such newly revised editions are to be included along with dates. This distinguishes such a 2nd edition from a publication which is only a second printing of an author’s original first edition.

A controversy was created because Srila Prabhupada, the author, was not present to consult with or personally authorize a re-edit of the book, which was first published as an unabridged, “complete edition” in 1972 by the Macmillan Company. From 1972 until 1977, the year Srila Prabhupada passed away, the book had been constantly studied by his disciples, widely distributed to the public and often favorably reviewed. During this time there were no proposals from anyone, nor an explicit authorization from Srila Prabhupada to revise the book then or in the future. Continue reading →

The situation today in ISKCON calendar is Ekadasi dates are not followed as it was back when Srila Prabhupada’s time from 1966-1977. Ekadasidates are supposed to be THE SAME in ANY time zone and Panjika was to be followed AS OBSERVED IN MAYAPUR. The new calendar has created Ekadasis to be followed by dates and times in different countries thus this has created a BIG MESS.

Please read below. Any comments/discussion welcome.

53. That the GBC accepts the Yoga Pitha Gaudiya Panjika calendar as authoritative for ISKCON on the instructions of Srila Prabhupada. It is also Srila Prabhupada’s instructions that the Panjika be followed in any time zone of the world according to the same Calendar date as observed in Mayapur. Bhakti Caru Swami shall secure and certify an official translation. [Provisional Order]

(GBC Resolutions February 25, 1988)

“on the instructions of Srila Prabhupada”

EKADASI

SB 4.28.35-36 We can definitely see that to advance in Krsna consciousness one must control his bodily weight. If one becomes too fat, it is to be assumed that he is not advancing spiritually. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura severely criticized his fat disciples. The idea is that one who intends to advance in Krsna consciousness must not eat very much. Devotees used to go to forests, high hills or mountains on pilgrimages, but such severe austerities are not possible in these days. One should instead eat only prasada and no more than required. ACCORDING TO THE VAISNAVA CALENDAR, THERE ARE MANY FASTS, SUCH AS EKADASI AND THE APPEARANCE AND DISAPPEARANCE DAYS OF GOD AND HIS DEVOTEES. ALL OF THESE ARE MEANT TO DECREASE THE FAT WITHIN THE BODY SO THAT ONE WILL NOT SLEEP MORE THAN DESIRED AND WILL NOT BECOME INACTIVE AND LAZY. Overindulgence in food will cause a man to sleep more than required. This human form of life is meant for austerity, and austerity means controlling sex, food intake, etc. In this way time can be saved for spiritual activity, and one can purify himself both externally and internally. Thus both body and mind can be cleansed. Continue reading →

Back To Prabhupada, Issue 30, Winter 2010/11

ISKCON’s rejection of Srila Prabhupada as the movement’s guru has been accompanied by a wholesale abandonment of his key teachings in every other major area of operation as well. As we document below, ISKCON today has evolved into a brand new movement, barely recognisable from the movement founded by Srila Prabhupada.

God

The Krishna consciousness movement, by definition, involves exclusive worship and focus on God, Krishna. Srila Prabhupada states:

“this Krsna consciousness movement simply advocates worship of Krsna to the exclusion of the demigods.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam, 4.31.14 purport)

However, as documented in detail in previous BTP issues, ISKCON temples are no longer the preserve for the exclusive worship of Krishna, with the worship of demigods now occurring alongside the worship of Krishna. This is admitted by ISKCON’s leadership:

“Temples once the exclusive hold of Gaura-Nitai and Radha- Krishna now are dominated by murtis* of demigods.” (HH Jayadvaita Swami, ISKCON Studies Conference, Italy, 28/7/2007) * sacred statues

Deity worship

Even when Krishna is worshipped in ISKCON temples, non-authorised methods have been introduced to accommodate popular culture:

“I covered the altar with fluffy white cloth that looked like snow, and made a big snowman wearing a harinama chaddar, offering incense and ringing a bell,” she says. “I even had devotees make a big reindeer pulling a sleigh, which was set up on the altar so that it looked like Radha-Govinda were on it.” (ISKCON News, 26/12/2009, report on ISKCON Ireland) Continue reading →

Hare Krsna to all

Pranams

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

I read this last night before falling asleep. Prabhupada clearly explains why

people take to intoxication. Many times people will say, taking drugs is

spiritual-below he explains why this is total madness.

We all have had to deal with these crazy type of people who mistake

intoxication for spirituality.

They will say–“Oh it says right there in Bhagavad gita-Krsna says

“I am the healing herb”……

Prabhupada explains it all-very clearly– for those who can “hear”.

Hare Krsna,

Damaghosa das

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750508rc.per Conversations 379856/530501 Kim: One more question. What do you think of the use of drugs as an aid? Prabhupada: Drugs? That is another side of madness. Just like, human being, after the evolution of 8 million forms of bodies, he comes to human body to understand philosophy, these Vedas. So instead of utilizing life for that purpose, he wants to become again like the cats and dogs, and therefore he takes drugs. He is already cat and dog. He’s no better than cats and dogs, because he has no interest in this knowledge. He was meant for this knowledge but he remains like cats and dogs, therefore he is not satisfied, therefore he takes drugs to forget himself. This is the philosophy of drugs. He was meant for becoming satisfied by taking this knowledge. He does not get the chance. Nobody leads him to this knowledge. He remains like cats and dogs, but as a human being if he lives like cats and dogs, he’ll never be happy. Because there is no happiness, therefore he takes drugs, to forget. This is the drug philosophy. Drug philosophy means to forget one’s present suffering. He must suffer, because his consciousness is developed. He must take this Vedic knowledge, but he does not take. Therefore he is dissatisfied, and to counteract the dissatisfaction he takes drugs. This is drug philosophy. Continue reading →

Hare Krsna to all

Pranams

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Below we have two separate quotes about who is liberated.

The first one says if we are even slightly interested in Krsna katha, that means

we are liberated. The second one gives a lot more information.

But the interesting thing is that if one just reads the first one and nothing more

then he will think I am liberated and dont have to do anything more because I am “slightly interested”

in Krsna-therefore I am liberated. This is how one can read the books and screw

out any meaning he wants-this is called sahajiya mentality or prakrta bhakta.

Having a little knowledge is dangerous. We must become fully aware of the

spiritual science of God Consciousness, Krsna Consciousness.

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“No Interest”

Question: Why are we not inclined toward the Lord’s service?

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada:

We have no inclination toward God and no inclination to remedy that situation. Therefore we need an expert doctor. Our inclination toward the Lord will arise if we associate with devotees. Just as a veterinary surgeon tactfully places medicine in an animal’s mouth, similarly the spiritual master and the devotees, who are just like expert doctors, bestow mercy on us. Despite our reluctance they forcibly pour the mellows of devotional service into our mouths.

— From Amrta Vani, collected teachings of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. chapter 51. Compiled in Bengali by Sri Bhakti Bhagavat Mayukha Maharaja. Adapted and translated

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REFUTATION OF VEDAVYAS’S “REBUTTAL OF THE RITVIK PHILOSOPHY”

Links to the Ritvik Articles plus extras‏

Tampering with Prabhupada’s personally typewritten sanskrit translations‏

Why is the Ritvik System bonafide? by Urdhvaga Das (ACBSP)

Interesting article by Rupanuga dasa TAKING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT’S DUE‏

ISKCON computer calendar dates BIG MESS versus THE PANJIKA : AS AUTHORISED BY SRILA PRABHUPADA‏

Interesting article from IRM re: Abandonment of Srila Prabhupada’s key teachings‏

Back To Prabhupada, Issue 30, Winter 2010/11

Taking drugs/intoxication is a sign of madness–SP‏

Apparent contradictions in the books ??

Why we have no interest for God-Srila Bhaktisiddhanta maharaj‏