Mode of Goodness-what is it? SP explains more

July 2 1975 Denver

 

Devotee (1): Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it true that our advancement in devotional services… Is it influenced a lot by our past karma, how many sinful activities we have committed?

Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Bhakti is not under karma. Bhakti is under your good will. If you accept to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, you can do that without being checked by anything else. Simply you have to will, “Yes, Kṛṣṇa. You are asking me. So long I did not do. From this day I do.” That will depend upon you.

Devotee (2): Not that if I was more sinful, I would make less advancement than somebody who is more pious.

Prabhupāda: Whatever you may be, simply surrender and everything is finished. Ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣayiṣ… [Bg. 18.66]. Even if you are sinful, Kṛṣṇa will give you release, “All right. You have surrendered. That’s all right.” That is wanted. If you reserve something and cheat Kṛṣṇa, “Now I am surrendering,” Kṛṣṇa is very intelligent. “You have still reservation. No.” [break]

Devotee (1): …it’s easier to surrender to Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: Yes, in sattva-guṇa one can see, one can understand his position. [break]

Devotee (2): Does he experience the miseries of the gross body when he’s in sattva-guṇa, in the mode of goodness? Does he experience hunger and thirst, those things like that?

Prabhupāda: Gross body means no hunger?

Devotee (2): When a person’s in sattva-guṇa, he’s not so much feeling the pain…

Prabhupāda: He is not disturbed by the rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. That is sattva-guṇa. Naṣṭa-prayeṣv abhadreṣu [SB 1.2.18]. He can be disturbed by rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa, but when he is in sattva-guṇa, he is not so much disturbed. And if he increase and go to the pure sattva-guṇa, suddha-sattva, then he is no more disturbed. At that time he can understand what is God. [break] …you are strongly situated in sattva-guṇa, the other base qualities cannot disturb you. Tadā rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ kāma-lobhādayaś ca ye [SB 1.2.19]. Other guṇa means lusty desires and greediness. This thing will be finished when you are strongly situated in sattva-guṇa. Then you go advance more and more. [break] …hear about Kṛṣṇa, to chant about Kṛṣṇa, means cleansing, cleansing the dirty things of rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa. [break] …world is going on on rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa. Very minute quantity of population are by sattva-guṇa.

Brahmānanda: Perhaps only in India will you find people in…

Prabhupāda: Yes, some. That is also deteriorating. [break]

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And yet another iskcon story of 8 bricks short of a full load

Here is yet another story of 8 bricks short of a full load in iskcon-and they have no idea where these “bricks” can be found anymore

September 21, 2021 in Articles by Damaghosa dasa

Dear Anuttama dasa(Iskcon communications minister)

Pranams

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Recently I received news that iskcon is now holding and giving guru seminar classes for its “gurus”. Just when I thought it could not get any worse, and now this new bit of more bad news and concocted philosophy from the GBC of Iskcon.

Anybody who has read Srila Prabhupadas books even at a cursory level, will understand that he tells us and shows us from the sastra (scriptures) that a bona fide spiritual master is no less than a liberated soul and has been deputed by the Supreme Lord to take disciples.

What does it take to be a liberated soul? That is explained in the scriptures as one who is free from the four defects-imperfect senses, illusions, making mistakes and the propensity to cheat.

So unless one possesses these basic four items, he cannot be a liberated soul, which means he cannot give perfect knowledge, nor can he even save himself, what to speak of others. And then to give diksa-initiation as a spiritual master, one must also be a pure devotee of the Lord on top of that, which Krsna tells us in His Bhagavad Gita is very very rare to find such a mahatma.

BG 7.14 purport....Another meaning of guṇa is rope; it is to be understood that the conditioned soul is tightly tied by the ropes of illusion. A man bound by the hands and feet cannot free himself-he must be helped by a person who is unbound. Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer must be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Kṛṣṇa, or His bona fide representative the spiritual master, can release the conditioned soul. Without such superior help, one cannot be freed from the bondage of material nature.

And yet in iskcon it has now become their common practice to even arrogantly admit it is not they who are releasing/liberating their so called disciples from birth and death but it is Srila Prabhupada himself.

So any reasonably intelligent person would then ask, what do we need these people for if they admit they are not liberated and furthermore and worse still, cannot free their so called disciples from the cycle of birth and death?

Reasonable question, right? Not for these people in iskcon who have lost all their intelligence that Prabhupada originally gave to them. Here is how that happened...

SB 4.22 Translation-–When one deviates from his original consciousness, he loses the capacity to remember his previous position or recognize his present one. When remembrance is lost, all knowledge acquired is based on a false foundation. When this occurs, learned scholars consider that the soul is lost.

This verse from Srimad Bhagavatam clearly gives us the answer why people concoct the original philosophy of Krsna Consciousness as given by Srila Prabhupada in his original books. It is because they have deviated in so many ways from the original consciousness and siddhanta as given by Prabhupada. Before Prabhupada came, very very few in the world had a clue as to what was religion, what was liberation, and more importantly who was a bona fide guru. Then Prabhupadas books came out, and we could then understand who was Krsna and what was all the rest—better know as illusion or Maya.

So now getting to the good part- here is what Anuttama das the director of Communications in Iskcon says about his guru seminars.

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RITVIK-SHOWN AND EXPLAINED

Hare Krsna

Dandavats. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Below is a link to the video recording of the initiation ceremony which was officiated by Yasoda nandana Prabhu that occurred on May 15, 2022 for the following devotees:

• Bhatin Girlie (Philippines)
• Bhakta Jonathan (USA)
• Bhaktin Adina (USA)
• Bhakta Gianpietro (India)
• Bhakta Vittorio (Italy)
• Bhakta Gian Franco (Italy)
• Jagannath Prasada Dasa (Philippines)

Video Link: https://youtu.be/d85uALrJfvc

Your servant,

Navadvipa dasa

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Hare Krsna -below we have a few articles and video clips which clearly show the Ritvik system of initiations is still going on and how these are authorized and sanctioned by Srila Prabhupada

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1.How to  become a present day disciple of SP

https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33479

2. How to  understand WHO to approach for Transcendence

https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33602

3.Indradyumna swamis lecture version vs Srila Prabhupada

https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=33481

4.iskcons  Communication minister Anuttama das explains why his gurus need a guru training  seminar

https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=32717

5.Another ritvik  ceremony and why it is authorized to be done

https://harekrishnasociety.org/?p=32713

This is an intelligent question-SP

KB 1-29  Introduction to Rasa dance

….Mahārāja Parīkṣit heard Śukadeva Gosvāmī explain the situation of the gopīs who assembled with Kṛṣṇa in the rāsa dance. When he heard that some of the gopīs, simply by concentrating on Kṛṣṇa as their paramour, became freed from all contamination of material birth and death, he said, “The gopīs did not know that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. They accepted Him as a beautiful boy and considered Him to be their paramour. So how was it possible for them to get freed from the material condition just by thinking of a paramour?” One should consider here that Kṛṣṇa and ordinary living beings are qualitatively one. The ordinary living beings, being part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, are also Brahman, but Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme–Parabrahman. The question is, if it is possible for the devotee to get free from the material, contaminated stage simply by thinking of Kṛṣṇa, then why not others who are also thinking of someone? If one is thinking of a husband or son, or if anyone at all is thinking of another living entity, since all living entities are also Brahman, then why are they not all freed from the contaminated stage of material nature? This is a very intelligent question, because the atheists are always imitating Kṛṣṇa. (or Srila Prabhupada) In these days of Kaliyuga, there are many rascals who think themselves to be as great as Kṛṣṇa (or Srila Prabhupada)and who cheat people into believing that thinking of them is as good as thinking of Lord Kṛṣṇa. (Or Srila Prabhupada)

Parīkṣit Mahārāja, apprehending the dangerous condition of blind followers of demonic imitators, therefore asked this question, and fortunately it is recorded in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam to warn innocent people that thinking of an ordinary man and thinking of Kṛṣṇa are not the same.

 

Some Conclusions–I was reading this pastime today and this part  struck me as very important for in so many places in the books we see Prabhupada warning us also  about  the many cheaters that seem to flourish in the world today.

 

 SB 2.9.8 purport…

There is no difference between the Lord and sound vibration coming from Him, even though He is not personally present. The best way of understanding is to accept such divine instruction, and Brahmā, the prime spiritual master of everyone, is the living example of this process of receiving transcendental knowledge. The potency of transcendental sound is never minimized because the vibrator is apparently absent. Therefore Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Bhagavad-gītā or any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental potency.

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You dont need a “living guru” to understand Prabhupadas books-SP

Note-Below we have one conversations where Srila Prabhupada destroys the iskcon myth that you need a “living guru” to explain his books. These people seem to mistakenly think nobody can understand Prabhupadas book unless you go thru them.

 

May 21 1975 Melbourne

Madhudviṣa: ...cannot become a medical practitioner by simply reading the books. He must study under a medical practitioner. So in the case of your books, is it possible to become a devotee without actually having personal association with you? Just by reading your books?

Prabhupāda: No, it is not that you have to associate with the author. But one who knows, if you cannot understand you have to take lesson from him. Not necessarily that you have to contact with the author always.

Devotee: Just like the textbooks are not written by the teachers; they’re written by other professors.

Devotee: Usually you don’t even meet the author.

Prabhupāda: Simply one who knows the subject matter, he can explain.

Madhudviṣa: But can your, would your purports, would that serve as explanation besides…

Prabhupāda: No, no, anyone who knows the subject matter, he will be able to explain. Not necessarily the author is required to be present there. [break] …to study from a medical man, I never said you have to study from the author. Or one who understood the author’s purpose. Just like we are explaining Bhagavad-gītā as it is. Not that one has to learn directly from Kṛṣṇa. One who has understood Kṛṣṇa, from him. That is paramparā system.

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There are 2 ways of living-the karmis way and the devotees way-SP

May 14 1975 Perth

 

Justin Murphy: …America has Comalco and Alcoa, two very large international groups, have large interests in the bauxite in the hills around Perth. They are out to make money. They’re in it to return money to their shareholders in America.

Prabhupāda: But therefore, there are two ways of living. One way of living is called material enjoyment, or sense enjoyment. This is one way of life. In Sanskrit it is called pravṛtti–mārga, “How to enjoy more, more, more, more, more.” This is called pravṛtti–mārga. That is going on. The whole… At the present moment the whole civilization, throughout the whole world—everyone is trying to get more money. More money means more sense enjoyment. More money means more sense enjoyment. This is called pravṛtti–mārga.

Justin Murphy: Well, maybe less enjoyment but more possessions.

Prabhupāda: No, enjoyment in this way of life more sense enjoyment, you will never be able to enjoy or happiness. That is not possible. That is the nature’s way. (Aside:) You can close the door. If you simply want to enjoy, you can enjoy. But you will create more miseries. So this is one way of life, that you enjoy your senses and create more miseries. This is one way of life. And if you want to decrease your miseries, then there is another life, which is called simple life. Simple life means you produce your food and you produce your cloth so you dress yourself nicely, you eat, yourself, nicely, keep yourself fit and glorify the Lord. This is one way of life. And the other way of life, that “We don’t care for the Lord. Let us enjoy the senses to the topmost capacity and be happy…” So this way of life will never make you happy. You will simply go on struggling. This is one way of life. Another way of life, that the human life is meant for God realization…

That is Vedānta philosophy. Athāto brahma jijnāsā. Now, by evolutionary process, we have come to the human form of life, and it is meant for asking, “What is my constitutional position? Am I this body, or I am something else?” The dogs, he cannot put this inquiry. A dog, he thinks that he is dog, that’s all. He is jumping, he is barking, and eating, sleeping, and having sex. That’s all. If I ask one dog, “Please sit down. Hear Bhagavad-gītā,” it is not possible. But you are human being, if I ask you, “Mr. such and such, sit down, hear from the Bhagavad-gītā,” you can do that. First of all we must know the difference between dog and me. The dog is incapable to understand Bhagavad-gītā. But human being… Just like we are selling this book in the Western countries, many millions of copies, because they are human being. We are not selling among the cats and dogs.

 

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Some inconceivable aspects of the soul and Supersoul

Hare Krsna-

For those who care and still have imagination and ability to inquire, we have arranged some things from Srila Prabhupadas  books which describe that which is not describable but is in fact inconceivable.

 

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Inconceivable things in the spiritual world-

 

Just for teasers, here is some of what you will find below…when our body is completely spiritualized it can and will act just like Krsnas-He/and we can eat thru his eyes, feet, ears, 

etc/our spiritual body can become grass, a tree or whatever we want, and still return to the original human like form/ Gadadhara das– is the luster of Srimati Radharanis body and Gadadhara pandit is the incarnation of Radha Herself/ trees in the spiritual world can move from one place to another/and Arjuna and Devahuti remain in the material world to assist Krsna with His pastimes  and they can expand themselves in unlimited bodies in unlimited universes to do so…….and more

Adi 5.22 purport

In the Vaikuṇṭhas there are airplanes, but they make no tumultuous sounds. Material airplanes are not at all safe: they can fall down and crash at any time, for matter is imperfect in every respect. In the spiritual sky, however, the airplanes are also spiritual, and they are spiritually brilliant and bright. These airplanes do not fly business executives, politicians or planning commissions as passengers, nor do they carry cargo or postal bags, for these are all unknown there. These planes are for pleasure trips only, and the residents of Vaikuṇṭha fly in them with their heavenly, beautiful, fairylike consorts. Therefore these airplanes, full of residentsof Vaikuṇṭha, both male and female, increase the beauty of the spiritual sky. We cannot imagine how beautiful they are, but their beauty may be compared to the clouds in the sky accompanied by silver branches of electric lightning. The spiritual sky of Vaikuṇṭhaloka is always decorated in this way.

The bestial civilization of eating, sleeping, fearing and sense-gratifying has misled modern man into forgetting how powerful a soul he has. As we have already described, the soul is a spiritual spark many, many times more illuminating, dazzling and powerful than the sun, moon or electricity. Human life is spoiled when man does not realize his real identity with his soul. LordCaitanya appeared with Lord Nityānanda to save man from this type of misleading civilization.

 

(SPL to Saradiya, 12th December 1968)-“To answer your second question, you should know that Arjuna and Kunti-devi are not in Krsnaloka. They are eternally associated with Krsna only in the material world. Just like Krsna is always in the spiritual world so similarly He is always in the material world and His pastimes are going on there also. In the material world, Krsna also has eternal associates, such as Arjuna and Kunti-devi. There is a difference between the body and soul of Arjuna and Kunti-devi. But although Arjuna is with Krsna in innumerable different material universes at one time, still there is only one spirit soul who is Arjuna. This spirit soul expands into many different bodies and thus you can understand that there are also incarnations of devotees as well as incarnations of Krsna. This is the power of the spirit soul, that it is unlimited. Such conception cannot be understood while one is still in the conditioned state.”

KB 1-13-Therefore in order to satisfy the mothers of His friends as well as to convince Brahmā of the supremacy of the Personality of Godhead, He immediately expanded Himself as the cowherd boys and calves. In the Vedas it is said that the Supreme Personality of Godhead expands Himself in so many living entities by His energy. Therefore it was not very difficult for Him to expand Himself again into so many boys and calves. He expanded Himself to become exactly like the boys, who were of all different features, facial and bodily construction, and who were different in their clothing and ornaments and in their behavior and personal activities. In other words, everyone has different tastes; being individual soul, each person has entirely different activities and behavior.Yet Kṛṣṇa exactly expanded Himself into all the different positions of the individual boys. He also became the calves, who were also of different sizes, colors, activities, etc. This was possible because everything is an expansion of Kṛṣṇa’s energy. 

 

ADI 9.32 purport
It is our experience in the material world that trees stand in one place, but in the spiritual world a tree can go from one place to another. Therefore everything in the spiritual world is called alaukika, uncommon or transcendental. Another feature of such a tree is that it can act universally. In the material world the roots of a tree go deep within the earth to gather food, but in the spiritual world the twigs, branches and leaves of the upper portion of the tree can act like the roots.

 

ADI 10.53 purport
Śrīla Gadādhara dāsa was known as an inhabitant of this village (eṅḍiyādaha-vāsī gadādhara dāsa). The Bhakti-ratnākara (Seventh Wave), informs us that after the disappearance of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Gadādhara dāsa came from Navadvīpa to Katwa. Thereafter he came to Eṅḍiyādaha and resided there.

He is stated to be the luster of the body of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, just as Śrīla Gadādhara Paṇḍita Gosvāmī is an incarnation of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī Herself. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is sometimes explained to be rādhā-bhāva-dyuti-suvalita, or characterized by the emotions and bodily luster of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. Gadādhara dāsa is this dyuti, or luster.

 

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If you simply try to understand Krsna you go back home–SP

May 28 1975 Honolulu

 

Devotee (2): …follow Kṛṣṇa consciousness very strictly and very seriously like, say, for the rest of our lives, is there a chance that we’ll be able to see Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa in this life?

Prabhupāda: Certainly. You read Bhagavad-gītā?

Devotee (2): Yes.

Prabhupāda: So there is stated, “If you simply try to understand Kṛṣṇa, then you go back to home.” Janma karma ca me divyam [Bg. 4.9]. That is stated. If you simply understand how Kṛṣṇa takes birth, how He goes away, why does He come, what is His mission, these things, if you can understand, then you are a fit candidate to go back to home. So that is explained everything in the Bhagavad-gītā. You try to understand. Then you are guaranteed. Where is the difficulty? And if you think, “Kṛṣṇa is an ordinary man like us,” then finished. Then do not understand Kṛṣṇa. If you simply accept this word faithfully, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti [Bg. 7.19], “Everything is Kṛṣṇa,” then your knowledge is perfect.

Devotee (3): Even if we don’t understand Kṛṣṇa completely… Even if we don’t understand Kṛṣṇa completely, if we just…

Prabhupāda: This is complete understanding, that “Everything is Kṛṣṇa.” That’s all. That is a fact. Everything is the energy of Kṛṣṇa. Just like in this material world everyone knows everything is the sunshine. Due to the sunshine, everything is coming. That’s a fact. Science…

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Dovetailing our  professional  work for the satisfaction of God and pleasing the Lord is as good as being bald headed and working full time for Krsna

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It is misunderstanding NOT to read other Acaryas books-SP

May 13 1975

Amogha: Śrīla Prabhupāda, we are distributing Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam you explain that it’s best to start from the beginning and go gradually. So…

Prabhupāda: No, anywhere you can see.

Amogha: So we can distribute any canto.

Paramahaṁsa: Usually what happens is a person who gets, say, the Second or Third or Fourth Canto, if he reads that, then he will want to start from the beginning, and he’ll buy the First Canto.

Prabhupāda: Yes. No, even if he does not read the First Canto, wherever he will read, he will get benefit. Sugar candy you taste from anywhere it is sweet. (long silence)

Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I remember once I heard a tape where you told us that we should not try to read the books of previous ācāryas.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Amogha: That we should not try to read Bhaktivinoda’s books or earlier books of other, all ācāryas. So I was just wondering…

Prabhupāda: I never said that.

Amogha: You didn’t say that? Oh.

Prabhupāda: How is that?

Amogha: I thought you said that we should not read the previous ācāryas’ books.

Prabhupāda: No, you should read.

Amogha: We should.

Prabhupāda: It is misunderstanding.

Paramahaṁsa: I think maybe he was thinking that there was some things about some of the Gauḍīya Maṭha books.

Prabhupāda: Maybe.

Paramahaṁsa: And sometimes you said that better not to…, better to read your books.

Amogha: When the devotees went to India this year, they said that Acyutānanda Swami very…, chastised them that “You should never… If I catch any of you buying Bhaktisiddhānta’s books from Gauḍīya Maṭha then I will take it away,” something like this.

Paramahaṁsa: Yeah, that was, the reason was because of, he didn’t want the devotees going to Gauḍīya Maṭha. But there’s nothing wrong with the idea of studying the previous ācāryas’ books.

Prabhupāda: No. Who said? That is wrong. We are following previous ācāryas. I never said that.

Paramahaṁsa: All of your commentaries are coming from the previous ācāryas.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Jayadharma: But that wouldn’t mean that we should keep all the previous ācāryas’ books and only read them.

Prabhupāda: That is already there. You first of all assimilate what you have got. You simply pile up books and do not read—what is the use?

Jayadharma: First of all we must read all your books.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Paramahaṁsa: Practically speaking, Śrīla Prabhupāda, you are giving us the essence of all the previous ācāryas’ books in your books.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. [break]

 

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Sudama: She wants to know actually that should they just have the chanting without reading your books or without instruction or following the program.

Prabhupada: But that chanting must be pure. Your guru is writing books. If you think, “There is no necessity of reading books,” that is guror avajna. Do you means to say I am writing these books whole night for selling and making money? What, do you think like that?
(Bhagavad-gita Lecture 17.1-3  — Honolulu, July 4, 1974)

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Where does this term-Krsna Consciousness” come from?

April 12 1975 Hyderabad

 

And Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā bhava mad-bhakta. There is no difficulty to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Not at all. But people will not take it, that is the difficulty. They will argue simply. Kūṭaka. Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā bhava mad-bhakta, where is the argument against it? You are saying that, they may not think of Kṛṣṇa, they may not say about Kṛṣṇa. And Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā bhava mad-bhakta. This is argument, this is not philosophy. Philosophy is there, direct, you should do like this, that’s all. You do it and get the results. You go to purchase something, the price is fixed, you pay the price and take it. Where is argument? If you are, if you serious about that thing, you may pay price and take it away. That is the advice of Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī. Kṛṣṇa-bhakti rasa-bhāvitā-mati kriyatāṁ yadi kuto ‘pi labhyate. If you can purchase somewhere the thinking of Kṛṣṇa, kṛṣṇa-bhakti rasa-bhāvitā mati. That is, we have translated into “Kṛṣṇa Consciousness.” If you can purchase this consciousness, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, somewhere, immediately purchase it. Kṛṣṇa-bhakti rasa-bhāvita-mati, kriyatām, just purchase, yadi kuto ‘pi labhyate, if it is available somewhere. And if I have to purchase, then what price? Tatra laulyam ekaṁ mūlam. Na janma-koṭibhiḥ labhyate. If you want what is the price, he says the price is your eagerness. And that eagerness to obtain it, takes many millions of births. Why you want Kṛṣṇa? Just like the other day I said that if one has seen Kṛṣṇa, he will become mad after Kṛṣṇa. That is the sign. These boys are certified in their own country by the Christian priests that “These boys are our boys, they will never come into church, they are never interested about God, and now they are mad after God. What is this?” Because that is the price only to purchase Kṛṣṇa. To mad after Him. 

 

Some Conclusions–This term “Krsna Consciousness” that we all use daily and other millions as well world over-where did it come from? 

I asked this question some 50 years ago and finally I have found the answer. You wont see it translated as such in any  mantra of Srila Prabhupadas books, and yet here it is, the explanation given by Our Acarya himself.

Human life is meant to inquire and if remain eager to ask questions, which are unlimited in scope, then eventually we will get them all answered. It just may take a while

So when foolish devotees want to remove Srila Prabhupada from his own iskcon, this is exactly like taking the foundation out from under a huge building-and then expecting things to go on nicely.

 

Members of the Foundation or Tree branch removal experts company–All of the GBC, Sastric advisory committee, Jayadvaita, the book changer, those who advocate changes of all kinds, all those posing as bona fide  gurus without authorization, women gurus, no objection elected gurus, unauthorized deity worship, no kirtan standards  anymore, demigod worship, car pujas, taking all of Prabhupadas books out of his temples and replacing with bogus gurus books,  and on and on……

And is it any wonder Prabhupada tells us all these people will be going to some hellish planet upon death? Its all there in his books-if we read them

Hare Krsna

damaghosa das