Dec 31 1973 LA MORNING WALK CONVERSATION
Viṣṇujana: They say, “We want to regress and become like India.” If everyone becomes devotees, then they’ll all walk around like us and regress.
Prabhupāda: There is no devotee in India, real devotee, at the present moment.
Viṣṇujana: So they classify us like that. They say, “You Hare Kṛṣṇa people, you want to take us back to cholera and dysentery and everything.”
Prabhupāda: But you are already suffering from cancer. What you have done? (laughter) Instead of cholera, you have got cancer. Is that very good exchange?
Viṣṇujana: One out of eight men has venereal disease.
Prabhupāda: From frying pan to the fire. Cholera has got some remedy, but here there is no remedy. Hm? What is that?
Viṣṇujana: In this country they have the venereal disease. One out of ten men is suffering gonorrhea.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Long ago one professor, medical professor, he said, he was Englishman—that in our country, 75% students are suffering from venereal disease. Colonel Megor (?). Yes. Colonel Megor. There must be venereal disease because sex life is so cheap. There must be venereal disease. And venereal disease, once infected, it brings so many other diseases, one after another, one after another. The cancer is also due to that. Madness. Yes. And the Vedic civilization knew it. Therefore first restriction: sex. Brahmacārī. First beginning, brahmacārī. No sex life. You see? Just to save. This venereal disease is mentioned in the Āyur-veda. It is called phiraṅgāmaya. Phiraṅga means “white Europeans.” It is diseased… And medical science also says that it was begun from dog. The girls, they have sex life with dog and there is the beginning of venereal disease.
Viṣṇujana: Yes, from animal. Ass, dog, cow.
Prabhupāda: That is the beginning. So the girl becomes infected, and she distributes to all men who have sex life with… This is the beginning of sex life. And in Mexico I have heard that they regularly make theatrical demonstration, how a woman is getting sex with ass. Is it?
Bahulāśva: Yes. That is in Tijuana.
Prabhupāda: Just see. Brahmānanda told me. People have become so degraded. They make regular show, how sex life can be enjoyed with animals.