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SP says even third class devotees are liberated

Hare Krsna-below we have 4 verses and purports in which Srila Prabhupada
kindly explains the differences between conditioned souls, third class devotees who are liberated and what it takes to perform. pure devotional service. One may find these words valuable.
It is interesting to note that Tapana Misra and Chandrasekhara (Associates of Caitanya Mahaprabhu who would eat at their homes) were categorized as kanistha adhikari because their knowledge of sastra was not sufficient to defeat the mayavadi philosophers in Benares . However because of their great love for Mahaprabhu they could not tolerate the insults of the mayavadis.
So one can have great love for the Lord but because of deficient  sastric knowledge  is put in the category of third class devotee, kanistha adhikaris.
Therefore Srila Prabhupada says even the third class devotees are liberated souls or become imperceptibly liberated.
Hare Krsna
damaghosa das
 
SB 3.25.36–Upon seeing the charming forms of the Lord, smiling and attractive, and hearing His very pleasing words, the pure devotee almost loses all other consciousness. His senses are freed from all other engagements, and he becomes absorbed in devotional service. Thus in spite of his unwillingness, he attains liberation without separate endeavor.
PURPORT–There are three divisions of devotees—first-class, second-class and third-class. Even the third-class devotees are liberated souls.It is explained in this verse that although they do not have knowledge, simply by seeing the beautiful decoration of the Deity in the temple,the devotee is absorbed in thought of Him and loses all other consciousness. Simply by fixing oneself inKṛṣṇaconsciousness, engaging the senses in the service of the Lord, one is imperceptibly liberated.This is also confirmed inBhagavad-gītā.Simply by discharging uncontaminated devotional service as prescribed in the scriptures, one becomes equal toBrahman.InBhagavad-gītāit is said,brahma–bhūyāyakalpate.This means that the living entity in his original state isBrahmanbecause he is part and parcel of the SupremeBrahman. But simply because of his forgetfulness of his real nature as an eternal servitor of the Lord, he is overwhelmed and captured bymāyā.His forgetfulness of his real constitutional position ismāyā.Otherwise he is eternallyBrahman.

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SP explains the difference between a liberated soul (guru) and mixed devotees

SB 3.27.27 purport..Anyone engaged in devotional service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead is known as a devotee, but there is a distinction between pure devotees and mixed devotees. A mixed devotee engages in devotional service for the spiritual benefit of being eternally engaged in the transcendental abode of the Lord in full bliss and knowledge. In material existence, when a devotee is not completely purified, he expects material benefit from the Lord in the form of relief from material miseries, or he wants material gain, advancement in knowledge of the relationship between the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the living entity, or knowledge as to the real nature of the Supreme Lord. When a person is transcendental to these conditions, he is called a pure devotee. He does not engage himself in the service of the Lord for any material benefit or for understanding of the Supreme Lord. His one interest is that he loves the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and he spontaneously engages in satisfying Him.
The highest example of pure devotional service is that of the gopīs in Vṛndāvana. They are not interested in understanding Kṛṣṇa, but only in loving Him. That platform of love is the pure state of devotional service. Unless one is advanced to this pure state of devotional service, there is a tendency to desire elevation to a higher material position. A mixed devotee may desire to enjoy a comfortable life on another planet with a greater span of life, such as on Brahmaloka. These are material desires, but because a mixed devotee engages in the service of the Lord, ultimately, after many, many lives of material enjoyment, he undoubtedly develops Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and the symptom of this Kṛṣṇa consciousness is that he is no longer interested in any sort of materially elevated life. He does not even aspire to become a personality like Lord Brahmā.
Note-In the above purport Srila Prabhupada explains the mentality of mixed devotees in that we want to be engaged in spiritual activity– for the spiritual benefits. Ore even if we want to have knowledge of God-Krsna or know our eternal relationship with Krsna or just to know Krsna as He is , what to speak of relief from material misery,  Prabhupada says above-this is all in the category of mixed devotee- not a pure devotee yet.

SB 3.28.2 purport...In this verse there are many important words which could be very elaborately explained, but we shall briefly discuss the important aspects of each. The final statement is ātmavic-caraṇārcanam. Ātma-vit means a self-realized soul or bona fide spiritual master. Unless one is self-realized and knows what his relationship with the Supersoul is, he cannot be a bona fide spiritual master. Here it is recommended that one should seek out a bona fide spiritual master and surrender unto him (arcanam), for by inquiring from and worshiping him one can learn spiritual activities.

Note-So here again above, more proof of who is a pure devotee or actual spiritual master. Unless one actually knows his svarupa siddhi or eternal relationship with God-Krsna, then he cannot be a bona fide spiritual master or guru. How many devotees have we met who know this? I have only met one….
Once Srila Prabhupada was asked this question and he said-“that you dont require to know”, In other words you rascal, you fool, first become qualified yourself and then when you are so qualified then you can ask me, your spiritual master, that elevated question which you have no way of understanding at  all in  your  present condition of life.

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Pride precedeth the fall

Every day, Vallabha Bhaṭṭa would come to the place of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu to engage in unnecessary arguments with Advaita Ācārya and other great personalities, such as Svarūpa Dāmodara.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/100
 
Whatever conclusions Vallabha Bhaṭṭa eagerly presented were refuted by personalities like Advaita Ācārya.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/101
 
Whenever Vallabha Bhaṭṭa entered the society of devotees, headed by Advaita Ācārya, he was like a duck in a society of white swans.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/102
One day Vallabha Bhaṭṭa said to Advaita Ācārya, “Every living entity is female [prakṛti] and considers Kṛṣṇa her husband [pati].
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/103
 
“It is the duty of a chaste wife, devoted to her husband, not to utter her husband’s name, but all of you chant the name of Kṛṣṇa. How can this be called a religious principle?”
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/104
Hearing this, Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, “My dear Vallabha Bhaṭṭa, you do not know religious principles. Actually, the first duty of a chaste woman is to carry out the order of her husband.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/106
“The order of Kṛṣṇa is to chant His name incessantly. Therefore one who is chaste and adherent to the husband Kṛṣṇa must chant the Lord’s name, for she cannot deny the husband’s order.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/107
“Following this religious principle, a pure devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa always chants the holy name. As a result of this, he gets the fruit of ecstatic love for Kṛṣṇa.”
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/108
 
Hearing this, Vallabha Bhaṭṭa was speechless. He returned home greatly unhappy and began to consider thus.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/109
“Every day I am defeated in this assembly. If by chance I am one day victorious, that will be a great source of happiness for me, and all my shame will go away. But what means shall I adopt to establish my statements?”
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/110-111

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When we lose our pride and hear from pure devotees-then we can understand-somewhat Lord Krsna

Lord Caitanya cut down the pride of Vallabha Acarya by preaching to him about how Krsna can only be found and known thru His pure devotees.

Antya 7.10-“One canimmediately purify his entire house simply by remembering exalted personalities,to say nothing of directly seeing them, touching their lotus feet, washing their feet or offering them places to sit.’
PURPORT-This is a quotation from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (1.19.33).

Antya 7.16–Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu replied, “My dear Vallabha Bhaṭṭa, you are a learned scholar. Kindly listen to Me. I am a sannyāsī of the Māyāvāda school. Therefore I have no chance of knowing what kṛṣṇa-bhakti is.
Antya 7.17--“Nevertheless, My mind has become purified because I have associated with Advaita Ācārya, who is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Antya 7.20-“Lord Nityānanda Prabhu, the avadhūta, is also directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is always intoxicated with the madness of ecstatic love. Indeed, He is an ocean of love of Kṛṣṇa.
Antya 7.21-“Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya perfectly knows the six philosophical theses. He is therefore the spiritual master of the entire world in the six paths of philosophy. He is the best of devotees.
Antya 7.24–“Through the mercy of Rāmānanda Rāya, I have understood that ecstatic love of Kṛṣṇa is the highest goal of life and that spontaneous love of Kṛṣṇa is the highest perfection.
Antya 7.27--“The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa, the son of mother Yaśodā, is accessible to those devotees engaged in spontaneous loving service, but He is not as easily accessible to mental speculators, to those striving for self-realization by severe austerities and penances, or to those who consider the body the same as the self.’

Antya 7.29-“When Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa was dancing with the gopīs in the rāsa-līlā, the gopīs wereembraced by the arms of the Lord. This transcendental favor was never bestowed upon the goddess of fortune or the other consortsin the spiritual world. Indeed, never was such a favor even imagined by the most beautiful girls in the heavenly planets, whose bodily luster and aroma resemble those of lotus flowers. And what to speak of worldly women who are very beautiful according to the material estimation?’

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Distinguishing Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books from Changed Ones

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                                                                        Distinguishing Srila Prabhupada’s

Original Books from Changed Ones

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List of publication years of original and revised editions for Srila Prabhupada’s books

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List of publication years of original
and revised editions for Srila Prabhupada’s books
Source: https://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/01-09/inventory.xls

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Iskcon’s blasphemous compilation of Anti-Ritvikism, promotion of bogus Gurus as good as God, justification of illegal book changes, etc

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Iskcon’s blasphemous compilation of Anti-Ritvik,
promotion of bogus Gurus as good as God,
justification of illegal book changes, etc
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1Iwi_3Xmxossnx5yl5oc6KovWnbfZWFk3

In the link above, Iskcon has compiled a few documents to convince others to accept their bogus Gurus as good as God if any newcomer gets a doubt on their qualifications.The book Kali Chelas was written by some fiskcon followers to spread falsehoods against Ritvik.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HVwK…

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Srila Prabhupada: So, we have to approach the real person who has seen. Then you’ll get the right goal of life.

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July 18 1973 London

 Prabhupāda: No, everyone gives his own opinion. Everyone will say… He’ll not dare to say that he’s speaking right, scientifically. He’ll say, “It is my opinion.” To avoid any difficulty, he’ll say, “In my opinion it is this.” I think he’s speaking of that, (that) there are so many people, and they have got so many opinions.

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Srila Gopala Bhatta Goswami 1503-1578

Sri Gopala Bhatta Tirobhava tithi [disappearance day] Wednesday, July 28, 2021 [Mayapura, West Bengal, Bharata bhumi]
Srila Gopala Bhatta Goswami 1503-1578

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Srila Prabhupada – “I say straightly that those who comment on Bhagavad-gītā according to their own whims, they’re all rascals.”

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Srila Prabhupada – “I say straightly that those who comment
on Bhagavad-gītā according to their own whims, they’re all rascals.”Lecture BG 07.03 – Montreal – June 3, 1968
What is this Kṛṣṇa consciousness? This Kṛṣṇa consciousness is nothing, is simply a drop in the ocean of these great literatures. Just like there is vast Atlantic Ocean in front of your country, and if you take one drop of Atlantic Ocean water and taste it, then you can understand at least what is the taste of this Atlantic Ocean. That is a fact. If you are intelligent enough, by tasting one drop of water of the Atlantic Ocean you can understand that the taste of the Atlantic Ocean is salty.

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