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No more desire for material enjoyment…he is fit for sannyasa–SP

Feb 26 1976 Mayapura Conversations
 
Prabhupāda: …no more desire of material enjoyment he is fit for sannyāsa. Anyone who sees: “Oh, this car is very nice. This beautiful wife is very… A very beautiful woman is very nice,” he should not think of taking sannyāsa. Viṣa-bhakṣaṇād apy asādhu: “Such desires is most abominable, more than taking poison.” To commit suicide by taking poison is most abominable thing, because he’s going to be a ghost. He’ll be punished to become a ghost, those who commit suicide. Or, if one is suddenly killed and he has so many desires, he becomes ghost. Therefore viṣa-bhakṣaṇa, taking poison, and die untimely, is most abominable, or commit suicide. By the material law also, to attempt to commit suicide is criminal. You know that?
Devotees: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is criminal. (Bengali) If you take s annyāsa… Just like there are so many sannyāsīs, for filling up the belly. Wherever you go they give some alms. But in…, outside India, who cares for the sannyāsī? Then why you should be eager to take sannyāsa and cheat yourself? You cannot cheat others, but you can cheat yourself.
Hṛdayānanda: Outside India a sannyāsī will starve.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) So I do not know why our disciples are so anxious to take sannyāsa, at least those who are outside. Everyone comes: “Give me sannyāsa.” What is the idea?
Jayapatākā: Freedom from authority.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Eh? Who cares him, for authority.
Jayapatākā: No, they, they don’t want to take order as brahmacārī. If they’re sannyāsī they think they can do as they feel.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They all want to become leaders.
Prabhupāda: So what kind of leader? If you cannot lead others, what kind of leader?
Jayapatākā: That’s why a brahmacārī should…
Prabhupāda: If you mislead them, if you mislead them, then what is the use of taking leadership?
Jayapatākā: That’s why that system where a brahmacārī is recommended for one year and then he proves himself by doing some extraordinary preaching work is a very good system. Otherwise, anyone just comes and by pressurizing and begging and pleading, then they try to take sannyāsa. Then they don’t stay to the path.
Prabhupāda: Sannyāsa means ultimate success, because this human life is meant for becoming disgusted with this material life: “No more.” Material life means to take a body and enjoy this material āhāra-nidrā, sleeping twenty-four hours, eating like elephant, and sex life like a monkey, these animals. This is material life, eating, sleeping, mating, and always afraid of. This is material life. And human life means to take freedom from these four things: no more afraid, no more sex, no more hankering after eating or sleeping. That is success. Everyone… You’ll see in the sparrow in the morning. They’re enjoying sex. So this is material life: eating, sleeping, mating and fearing. Āhāra-nidrā-bhaya-maithunaṁ ca. And spiritual life means to become free from all this nonsense. That is spiritual life. They do not know what is spiritual life. The whole world, they do not know what is spiritual life. This is spiritual life, to become free from these four abominable things.
Hṛdayānanda: They are trying to increase these four things.
Prabhupāda: That means cheating themselves. What is the use of taking sannyāsa and cheat yourself? Material life means punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām [SB 7.5.30], repeatedly doing the same thing. Either as human being or as monkey or as a small ant or the demigods, but doing the business is the same, four things: eating, sleeping, mating and fearing. In different scale, doing the same business. Therefore it is called punaḥ punaḥ, “again and again,” carvita-carvaṇānām, “chewing the chewed.” If one is sober, he thinks that “These four business, I have done many, many lives, as sparrow, or as jackal, or as demigod, and I have got this human form. Again I am doing this? So what is benefit of this human form of life?” This is sense. “I got this valuable life, and I am still doing the same thing as dogs and cats and sparrows? Then what is the difference between me and the dogs?” That is sense. “What is my better engagement?” That better engagement is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then his life is successful. Otherwise what is the use of…? Again become a sparrow. Again wait for millions of years to come by evolutionary process to the human form of life. You see? This is going on. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisram [SB 7.5.30]. Because they cannot control the sense, they are going in the darkest part of this material existence.
Dayānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, it seems that in youth the desire to enjoy is so much stronger than in old age.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Dayānanda: It seems that in youth it is, the desire to enjoy is stronger than in old age.
Prabhupāda: That is foolishness. An old man is still stronger, but instruments are finished. He cannot enjoy. But the desire is there. You don’t think that old man has got less desire than the young man. He has got the desire, but his instrument is finished.

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yogis stool passing and fly pasting stories by SP

Dec 7 1975 conversations Vrndavana
Prabhupāda: Yes. On the other land. Make a shed immediately and keep some cows. And Viśvambhara, he is experienced. He will help. [break] …necessary vairāgya, there is no need. We don’t approve that. Yuktāhāra-vihāras ca. What you require for keeping health but not to eat too much. But what is absolutely required must be done.
Aksayānanda: I heard that if you pass stool more than once a day you become a bhogī? You are called a bhogī?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Aksayānanda: Does that mean a serious devotee should only pass stool once a day?
Prabhupāda: Don’t artificially do that. (laughter) First of all become yogi. Then do it.
Aksayānanda: Yes. Of course, it can only be done by Kṛṣṇa’s mercy, but one should at least try for that.
Prabhupāda:HareKṛṣṇa. Jaya. Don’t try for passing stool once. (laughter) That does not make you a yogi.
Bhavananda: Yogināmapisarveṣāṁmad-gatenāntarātmanā [Bg. 6.47].
Prabhupāda: Antara… Yes. That makes you yogi, not by passing stool. (laughter) HareKṛṣṇa. [break] Huh?

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What does it mean to be- outside the Param Para?

Adi 7.48-–On the basis of scriptures like Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, which reveal these confidential directions, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu instructed Sanātana Gosvāmī regarding all the regular activities of a devotee.
PURPORT-In the paramparā system, the instructions taken from the bona fide spiritual master must also be based on revealed Vedic scriptures. One who is in the line of disciplic succession cannot manufacture his own way of behavior. There are many so-called followers of the Vaiṣṇava cult in the line of Caitanya Mahāprabhu who do not scrupulously follow the conclusions of the śāstras, and therefore they are considered to be apa-sampradāya, which means “outside of the sampradāya.” Some of these groups are known as āula, bāula, kartābhajā, neḍā, daraveśa, sāṅi sahajiyā, sakhībhekī, smārta, jata-gosāñi, ativāḍī, cūḍādhārī and gaurāṅga-nāgarī. In order to follow strictly the disciplic succession of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, one should not associate with these apasampradāya communities.
One who is not taught by a bona fide spiritual master cannot understand the Vedic literature. To emphasize this point, Lord Kṛṣṇa, while instructing Arjuna, clearly said that it was because Arjuna was His devotee and confidential friend that he could understand the mystery of the Bhagavad-gītā. It is to be concluded, therefore, that one who wants to understand the mystery of revealed scriptures must approach a bona fide spiritual master, hear from him very submissively and render service to him. Then the import of the scriptures will be revealed. It is stated in the Vedas (Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 6.23):yasya deve parā bhaktir yathā deve tathā gurau
tasyaite kathitā hy arthāḥ prakāśante mahātmanaḥ
“The real import of the scriptures is revealed to one who has unflinching faith in both the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the spiritual master.” Śrīla Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura advises, sādhu-śāstra-guru-vākya, hṛdaye kariyā aikya. The meaning of this instruction is that one must consider the instructions of the sādhu, the revealed scriptures and the spiritual master in order to understand the real purpose of spiritual life. Neither a sādhu (saintly person or Vaiṣṇava) nor a bona fide spiritual master says anything that is beyond the scope of the sanction of the revealed scriptures. Thus, the statements of the revealed scriptures correspond to those of the bona fide spiritual master and saintly persons. One must therefore act with reference to these three important sources of understanding. https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/adi/7/48
 
Some Conclusions--From the above we collect this important information. To understand the param para sampradaya one must be like Arjuna-a devotee and confidential friend of the Lord. If one acts properly, following strictly the bona fide guru, then he or she will understand the sastra. However if one acts in a way that is improper like offending  Vaisnavas, then it is simply not possible to understand Krsna, nor how His energies are working. 
So when one offends others, commits sins, speculates, or a host of other offenses to the Holy Names, does this mean at that point in time this “devotee” is in or out of the param para?  If one is outside the param para does that mean he has become a sahijiya? Let us consider the following.

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submission service then inquiry to guru

April 16 1976 Bombay conversations

 Dr. Patel: That is Albert Einstein, and that was the grandfather of the modern scientists. So I say the scientists are not as atheist as people think.
Abhirāma(?): When Albert Einstein suggested that there must be a supreme universe, then the other scientists began to say that he was crazy. They said, “He has become too old.”
Dr. Patel: Yes, yes, yes.
Abhirāma: Actually they did not believe his theory.
Dr. Patel: You are right. I mean, all intelligent men in past used to…
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. [break] …scientist. Tad viddhi praṇipātena [Bg. 4.34].
Dr. Patel: But he did not the paripraśnena sevayā. I do it.
Prabhupāda: No, he thinks not yet fit to make paripraśna.
Dr. Patel: I do it
Prabhupāda: That is. That is scientist. He thinks himself not fit to make any question. Tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena [Bg. 4.34]. When the praṇipāta is sufficiently mature, then he can make paripraśna-accompanied by sevā. Otherwise paripraśna is a waste of time. According to our Vedic system, we should not make any question to any person whose answer I cannot accept toto. Then I shall. Otherwise no use of wasting time. Praṇipāta means that you are accepting that “Here I have come. His answer will be complete.” No further question. But if there is little doubt, he can submissively make question. Just like Arjuna made question to Kṛṣṇa that “You say millions of years ago You spoke this science to…”
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BG 4.34 purport….…Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master, and when he sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse, both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned. One should not only hear submissively from the spiritual master; but one must also get a clear understanding from him, in submission and service and inquiries. A bona fide spiritual master is by nature very kind toward the disciple. Therefore when the student is submissive and is always ready to render service, the reciprocation of knowledge and inquiries becomes perfect.
 
Below-some Garden produce just picked. The red ones are hawthorne berries-very good for the heart and circulatory system. And of course everyone recognizes peppers. The large ones on the left are Italian paprikas, which we will cut up and dry, the smaller ones on the right side are  sweet banana peppers
     This, below, is just a small  part of our winter food program of storing food.
kāmaṁ vavarṣa parjanyaḥ sarva-kāma-dughā mahī
siṣicuḥ sma vrajān gāvaḥ payasodhasvatīr mudā
TRANSLATION–During the reign of Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, the clouds showered all the water that people needed, and the earth produced all the necessities of man in profusion. Due to its fatty milk bag and cheerful attitude, the cow used to moisten the grazing ground with milk.
PURPORT–The basic principle of economic development is centered on land and cows. The necessities of human society are food grains, fruits, milk, minerals, clothing, wood, etc. One requires all these items to fulfill the material needs of the body. Certainly one does not require flesh and fish or iron tools and machinery. During the regime of Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, all over the world there were regulated rainfalls. Rainfalls are not in the control of the human being. The heavenly King Indradeva is the controller of rains, and he is the servant of the Lord. When the Lord is obeyed by the king and the people under the king’s administration, there are regulated rains from the horizon, and these rains are the causes of all varieties of production on the land. Not only do regulated rains help ample production of grains and fruits, but when they combine with astronomical influences there is ample production of valuable stones and pearls. Grains and vegetables can sumptuously feed a man and animals, and a fatty cow delivers enough milk to supply a man sumptuously with vigor and vitality. If there is enough milk, enough grains, enough fruit, enough cotton, enough silk and enough jewels, then why do the people need cinemas, houses of prostitution, slaughterhouses, etc.? What is the need of an artificial luxurious life of cinema, cars, radio, flesh and hotels? Has this civilization produced anything but quarreling individually and nationally? Has this civilization enhanced the cause of equality and fraternity by sending thousands of men into a hellish factory and the war fields at the whims of a particular man? Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/1/10/4
Garden video…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux6nYbexcEM
https://www.amazon.com/MOVE-CITY-TAKE-CONTROL-GROWING/dp/1696418623

                           
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more devotee concoctions-wearing deity paraphernalia on wrist

April 7 1976 Vrndavana morning walk
Akṣayānanda: [break] ...thread from the Deity, the old sacred thread, and they tie it on their wrist. They tie it here.
Prabhupāda: Who?
Akṣayānanda: Some of the devotees have started to do that now.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Akṣayānanda: I don’t know. It’s just like wearing beads. The sacred thread from the Deity, after replacing, they take the old one and they wear it here.
Prabhupāda: Who has told them?
Akṣayānanda: I don’t know.
Prabhupāda: Then why…
Akṣayānanda: Well, I told one boy to stop it, and because I couldn’t quote any authority, he keeps wearing…
Prabhupāda: No, no, there is no author…. Where is his authority?
Akṣayānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: This nonsense should be stopped.
Akṣayānanda: Yes, I thought it was wrong. That’s why I mentioned it. I wanted to make sure.
Prabhupāda: Stop this.
Akṣayānanda: Okay. Sure.
Hari–śauri: I think their idea is that because it’s prasādam, it’s from the Deity, that they’re able to wear it.
Prabhupāda: That is another concoction. The sacred thread is not used like that, in the hand.
Akṣayānanda: I thought it was wrong. It seems like some kind of fashion or something, concocted fashion.
Hari–śauri: [break] …small black beads that the devotees are wearing from Rādhā–kuṇḍa. They have a string of beads made of clay from Rādhā–kuṇḍa. Are they…?
Prabhupāda: Rādhā–kuṇḍa clay is not bad.
Hari–śauri: So it’s all right to wear them?
Prabhupāda: Not very constantly.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that you‘re worried that one thing will lead to the next. Actually all we have to do is follow your example.
Akṣayānanda: Yes, we don’t have to add anything. What can we add?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: What is the use of it?
Akṣayānanda: What can we add?
Prabhupāda: There is a proverb in Bengali that the crows, they eat stool. But when the crow is very young, he eats more stool. [break] …tendency always, how to become hippie, as soon as there is little opportunity.
Akṣayānanda: Yes, it’s something we have to guard against very carefully.
Prabhupāda: Don’t allow them. Don’t allow all these.
Akṣayānanda: Even in India people say like that, “Oh, you are hippies?”
Prabhupāda: As soon as you become hippie, immediately your all prestige will go.
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Therefore I advise you that we are working on a different platform-SP

May 25 1969 letter
 So I don’t think there is any cause of discouragement because we are working on a different platform.
Recently when I was in Columbus there was a big meeting, and more than one thousand students attended. Poet Allan Ginsberg was there with me for chanting, and all the students were responsive immediately. Therefore I advise you that we are working on a different platform. We are working neither on the sensual platform, nor on the mental platform, nor on the intellectual platform. We are working completely on the spiritual platform. The concept of European, American, or Indian is based on the bodily platform. So long one is under the impression that he is this body, he cannot make much progress in this movement. Lord Caitanya says that factually all living entities are the servants of Krishna. This servitorship cannot be rendered from the material platform, because Krishna is not matter. He is Sat–Cit–Ananda Vigraha. Anyone trying to serve Krishna from the material platform of body, mind and intelligence cannot appreciate this fact. One has to become free from the contamination of matter, represented in gross and subtle forms as body, mind, intelligence and ego. Until then, one is not a pure devotee. In the Narada Pancaratra it is clearly stated that one has to become free from all material designations. So long as one is under the cover of material designations, he cannot serve Krishna. Therefore, we have to transcend this position by cleansing our hearts from such rubbish concept of life that I am American, I am European, I am Indian, I am this or that. Anyone keeping himself under such impression, but at the same time trying to get into Krishna Consciousness is called neophyte devotee, or prakrta. 
Lord Caitanya has given us a very nice method of chanting Hare Krishna, and if we execute this without any offense, we can transcend this prakrta platform and come to the spiritual platform of serving Krishna. And unless we serve Krishna there is no possibility of getting His Grace, and without His Grace it is not possible to preach Krishna Consciousness. Therefore, we should more depend to receive His Grace then to depend on mental or intellectual activities.

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SP explains guru tatta in relation to Communism

 

March 16 1976 Mayapura conversation

Prabhupāda: You have got the same eyes, but when it is dark you cannot see. Then what is the value of your eyes? You see under condition. That is not absolute. [break] …should be informed that why you have changed? Now, the Russian and Chinese, first of all they began believing Lenin or Marx.

Madhudviṣa: Marx was the original.

Prabhupāda: Now they are not in agreement. Why?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They saw practically… It was impractical.

Prabhupāda: That means for advancement of knowledge you have to change. They accept this theory, revolution. So if you get better situation, why you’ll not change?

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They accept a better theory when it is presented.

Prabhupāda: Yes. It is presented. This is the beginning, that “Your knowledge is imperfect. You are believing your eyes, but that is not perfect knowledge. You have to see with knowledge.” Paśyati j�āna… Paśyanti j�āna-cakṣuṣā. Śāstra-cakṣuṣāt. That is seeing, not seeing like a child. A child is seeing, a motor car is running, a airplane is running. He thinks a wonderful machine, but it is not the machine. It is the pilot. It is the driver. A child cannot see it. The father knows that it is not the machine. The machine may be however perfectly made; it cannot run. There must be a perfect pilot also. Just like we get on aeroplane. There are hundreds of men. If there is any trouble, then the pilot can stop it, not the hundreds of men.

Mahendra: In these Communist countries, Śrīla Prabhupāda, such as Russia…

Prabhupāda: Not Communist country, everywhere, a pilot is required. Not Communist country.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Every country has a leader.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So these… All this ism, Communism, this ism, this ism, beginning from that Greek history, so many changes have been made in Europe, leaders, sometimes Napoleon, sometimes Mussolini, sometimes Hitler. It is going on. So where is the perfect situation? You have changed so many leaders for so many years in the history, but where is your perfect situation?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have one leader, and our situation is perfect, and we are not changing that leader.

Note–TKG sure changed his tune later on)

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is perfection. We have taken Kṛṣṇa as leader. We are not taking any other leader.

Mahāṁśa: In thousands of years.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hundreds and thousands of years.

Prabhupāda: Millions of years.

Mahāṁśa: So many constitutions, they have been amended so many times. But the Bhagavad-gītā has not been amended since so many millions of years.

Prabhupāda: It cannot be amended. Just like this rule, dehino ‘smin yathā dehe [Bg. 2.13]. When the change of body, how you can change the rule? A perfect definition. You cannot change it. [break] …religion, the so-called religion, it is changed. Formerly there was no Christianity and now Christianity. Now, from Christianity, so many others, so many others. That is not religion.

Revatīnandana: If you say that your leader is perfect and you do not change your leader, we see that in India… This is where Kṛṣṇa came. He is your leader, but they do not follow Kṛṣṇa any more and India is in trouble.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is the right thing.

Revatīnandana: But why do they not follow if He is perfect leader?

Prabhupāda: That is their misfortune.

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5 Main principles we need to know and practice-SP

Hare Krsna—Below we have assembled some nice verses and quotes which, according to Srila Prabhupada exactly explain our positions of purity or impurity within these bodies and minds. If we have ever wondered why devotional things take so long to get done, or not even at all, here below are some clues as to why. 
The principle of envy is obvious all over this material world but totally absent in the spiritual world due to the ill effects it causes to others. Below we have attempted to show why it must be thoroughly cleansed from our hearts.
 
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1.) Why was  deity worship introduced?

SB 7.14.39-TRANSLATION–My dear King, when great sages and saintly persons saw mutually disrespectful dealings at the beginning of Tretā-yuga, Deity worship in the temple was introduced with all paraphernalia.
 
SB 3.29.22–One who worships the Deity of Godhead in the temples but does not know that the Supreme Lord, as Paramātmā, is situated in every living entity’s heart, must be in ignorance and is compared to one who offers oblations into ashes.
PURPORT-…….. Therefore persons who profess to belong to some religious sect but who do not feel the presence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead in every living entity, and everywhere else, are in the mode of ignorance.
If, without this preliminary knowledge of the Lord’s omnipresence, one simply attaches himself to the rituals in a temple, church or mosque, it is as if he were offering butter into ashes rather than into the fire.
2.) Why are householders envious of each other? 
Why does even the Bible say love thy neighbor-as thy self?
“In the age of Kali, all the householders are jealous of one another because they are blind to the knowledge of ultimate truth.”–SP
Everyone in this world is envious-SB 1.1.2 — London, August 18, 1971
Everyone is envious. If his neighbor, if his brother, if his friend becomes more prosperous than himself, he becomes envious. This is material nature. Similarly, in our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, if we become envious, “Oh, my Godbrother, oh, he has become so popular. He is making so much progress. So put some impediments towards his progressive path,” this is also material. The Vaikuṇṭha consciousness is that if your neighbor, if your brother is prosperous or progressive, then one should think, “Oh, he’s so nice that he has served God so nicely. God is so pleased upon him that he is making so nice progress.” That is Vaikuṇṭha consciousness. And material consciousness is that “Oh, he has advanced so much. Oh, let me check him.” This is material. That is going on.
The whole world, enviousness. I remember in, long ago, about sometimes in 1936, my eldest son in Bombay—he was in school—he stood first. So his class friends became envious that “Here is a boy, he is coming from Bengal, and he has stood first.” They wanted to fight with him. My son came and complained to me that “This is the position.” Just see. Children even, envious. You see. That means this is the nature of this world. If you prosper, then your brothers and your neighbors, your friends, will be envious. 
SB 2.1.2–Those persons who are materially engrossed, being blind to the knowledge of ultimate truth, leave many subject matters for hearing in human society, O Emperor.
PURPORT
In the revealed scriptures there are two nomenclatures for the householder’s life. One is gṛhastha, and the other is gṛhamedhī. The gṛhasthas are those who live together with wife and children but live transcendentally for realizing the ultimate truth. The gṛhamedhīs, however, are those who live only for the benefit of the family members, extended or centralized, and thus are envious of others. The word medhī indicates jealousy of others. The gṛhamedhīs, being interested in family affairs only, are certainly envious of others. Therefore, one gṛhamedhī is not on good terms with another gṛhamedhī, and in the extended form, one community, society or nation is not on good terms with another counterpart of selfish interest. In the age of Kali, all the householders are jealous of one another because they are blind to the knowledge of ultimate truth. They have many subject matters for hearing-political, scientific, social, economic and so on-but due to a poor fund of knowledge, they set aside the question of the ultimate miseries of life, namely miseries of birth, death, old age and disease. Factually, the human life is meant for making an ultimate solution to birth, death, old age and disease, but the gṛhamedhīs, being illusioned by the material nature, forget everything about self-realization. The ultimate solution to the problems of life is to go back home, back to Godhead, and thus, as stated in the Bhagavad-gītā (8.16), the miseries of material existence-birth, death, old age and disease-are removed.
The process of going back home, back to Godhead, is to hear about the Supreme Lord and His name, form, attributes, pastimes, paraphernalia and variegatedness. Foolish people do not know this. They want to hear something about the name, form, etc., of everything temporary, and they do not know how to utilize this propensity of hearing for the ultimate good. Misguided as they are, they also create some false literatures about the name, form, attributes, etc., of the ultimate truth. One should not, therefore, become a gṛhamedhī simply to exist for envying others; one should become a real householder in terms of the scriptural injunctions.
 
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Lifetime of Lord Brahma

Srimad-Bhagavatam

SB Canto 1

The duration of a day in the life of Brahmā is 4,320,000,000 solar years. This is stated also in the Bhagavad-gītā.

SB 1.6.30, Translation and Purport:

After 4,300,000,000 solar years, when Brahmā awoke to create again by the will of the Lord, all the ṛṣis like Marīci, Aṅgirā, Atri and so on were created from the transcendental body of the Lord, and I also appeared along with them.

The duration of a day in the life of Brahmā is 4,320,000,000 solar years. This is stated also in the Bhagavad-gītā. So, for this period Brahmājī rests in yoga-nidrā within the body of the Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, the generator of Brahmā. Thus, after the sleeping period of Brahmā, when there is again creation by the will of the Lord through the agency of Brahmā, all the great ṛṣis again appear from different parts of the transcendental body, and Nārada also appears. This means that Nārada appears in the same transcendental body, just as a man awakes from sleep in the same body. Śrī Nārada is eternally free to move in all parts of the transcendental and material creations of the Almighty. He appears and disappears in his own transcendental body, which is without distinction of body and soul, unlike conditioned beings.

There are two types of dissolution of the manifested cosmos. At the end of every 4,320,000,000 solar years, when Brahmā, the lord of one particular universe, goes to sleep, there is one annihilation.

SB 1.10.21, Translation and Purport:

They said: Here He is, the original Personality of Godhead as we definitely remember Him. He alone existed before the manifested creation of the modes of nature, and in Him only, because He is the Supreme Lord, all living beings merge, as if sleeping at night, their energy suspended.

There are two types of dissolution of the manifested cosmos. At the end of every 4,320,000,000 solar years, when Brahmā, the lord of one particular universe, goes to sleep, there is one annihilation. And at the end of Lord Brahmā’s life, which takes place at the end of Brahmā’s one hundred years of age, in our calculation at the end of 8,640,000,000 x 30 x 12 x 100 solar years, there is complete annihilation of the entire universe, and in both the periods both the material energy called the mahat-tattva and the marginal energy called jīva-tattva merge in the person of the Supreme Lord. The living beings remain asleep within the body of the Lord until there is another creation of the material world, and that is the way of the creation, maintenance and annihilation of the material manifestation.

The material creation is effected by the interaction of the three modes of material nature set in action by the Lord, and therefore it is said here that the Lord existed before the modes of material nature were set in motion. In the Śruti-mantra it is said that only Viṣṇu, the Supreme Lord, existed before the creation, and there was no Brahmā, Śiva or other demigods. Viṣṇu means the Mahā-Viṣṇu, who is lying on the Causal Ocean. By His breathing only all the universes are generated in seeds and gradually develop into gigantic forms with innumerable planets within each and every universe. The seeds of universes develop into gigantic forms in the way seeds of a banyan tree develop into numberless banyan trees.

This Mahā-Viṣṇu is the plenary portion of the Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is mentioned in the Brahma-saṁhitā as follows:

“Let me offer my respectful obeisances unto the original Personality of Godhead, Govinda, whose plenary portion is the Mahā-Viṣṇu. All the Brahmās, the heads of the universes, live only for the period of His exhaling, after the universes are generated from the pores of His transcendental body.” (Bs. 5.58)

Thus Govinda, or Lord Kṛṣṇa, is the cause of Mahā-Viṣṇu also. The ladies talking about this Vedic truth must have heard it from authoritative sources. An authoritative source is the only means of knowing about transcendental subject matter definitely. There is no alternative.

The merging of the living beings into the body of Mahā-Viṣṇu takes place automatically at the end of Brahmā’s one hundred years. But that does not mean that the individual living being loses his identity. The identity is there, and as soon as there is another creation by the supreme will of the Lord, all the sleeping, inactive living beings are again let loose to begin their activities in the continuation of past different spheres of life. It is called suptotthita naya, or awakening from sleep and again engaging in one’s respective continuous duty. When a man is asleep at night, he forgets himself, what he is, what his duty is and everything of his waking state. But as soon as he awakens from slumber, he remembers all that he has to do and thus engages himself again in his prescribed activities. The living beings also remain merged in the body of Mahā-Viṣṇu during the period of annihilation, but as soon as there is another creation they arise to take up their unfinished work. This is also confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā (8.18-20) (BG 8.18).

The Lord existed before the creative energy was set in action. The Lord is not a product of the material energy. His body is completely spiritual, and there is no difference between His body and Himself. Before creation the Lord remained in His abode, which is absolute and one.

SB Canto 4

Although Lord Brahmā has a long life-span (4,320,000,000 years constitute twelve hours in a day of Brahmā), Brahmā is afraid of death and consequently engages in the devotional service of the Lord.

SB 4.24.67, Purport:

An advanced devotee, or a perfect human being who is actually wise and learned, cannot give up his service at the lotus feet of the Lord. Although Lord Brahmā has a long life-span (4,320,000,000 years constitute twelve hours in a day of Brahmā), Brahmā is afraid of death and consequently engages in the devotional service of the Lord. Similarly, all the Manus who appear and disappear during the day of Brahmā are also engaged in the Lord’s devotional service. In Brahmā’s one day, fourteen Manus appear and disappear. The first Manu is Svāyambhuva Manu. Each Manu lives for seventy-one yugas, each consisting of some 4,320,000 years. Although the Manus have such a long life-span, they still prepare for the next life by engaging in the devotional service of the Lord.

SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)

The gopīs felt that those same nights dragged on forever, as if each night were equal to a day of Brahmā.

SB 11.12.11, Translation:

Dear Uddhava, all of those nights that the gopīs spent with Me, their most dearly beloved, in the land of Vṛndāvana seemed to them to pass in less than a moment. Bereft of My association, however, the gopīs felt that those same nights dragged on forever, as if each night were equal to a day of Brahmā.

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta

CC Preface and Introduction

Lord Brahmā lives only for the duration of one breath, and according to our time scale 4,320,000,000 years constitute only twelve hours for Brahmā, and Brahmā lives one hundred of his years.

CC Introduction:

We cannot imagine, however, the duration of one breath of Mahā-Viṣṇu, for within one breath all the universes are created and annihilated. This is stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā. Lord Brahmā lives only for the duration of one breath, and according to our time scale 4,320,000,000 years constitute only twelve hours for Brahmā, and Brahmā lives one hundred of his years. Yet the whole life of Brahmā is contained within one breath of Mahā-Viṣṇu. Thus, it is not possible for us to imagine the breathing power of Mahā-Viṣṇu, who is but a partial manifestation of Lord Nityānanda. This the author of the Caitanya-caritāmṛta explains in the ninth verse.

CC Adi-lila

From the beginning of Brahmā’s day of 4,320,000,000 years, six Manus appear and disappear before Lord Kṛṣṇa appears.

CC Adi 3.10, Translation and Purport:

At the end of the Dvāpara-yuga of the twenty-eighth divya-yuga, Lord Kṛṣṇa appears on earth with the full paraphernalia of His eternal Vraja-dhāma.

Now is the term of Vaivasvata Manu, during which Lord Caitanya appears. First Lord Kṛṣṇa appears at the close of the Dvāpara-yuga of the twenty-eighth divya-yuga, and then Lord Caitanya appears in the Kali-yuga of the same divya-yuga. Lord Kṛṣṇa and Lord Caitanya appear once in each day of Brahmā, or once in fourteen manv-antaras, each of seventy-one divya-yugas in duration.

From the beginning of Brahmā’s day of 4,320,000,000 years, six Manus appear and disappear before Lord Kṛṣṇa appears. Thus 1,975,320,000 years of the day of Brahmā elapse before the appearance of Lord Kṛṣṇa. This is an astronomical calculation according to solar years.

CC Madhya-lila

One day of Brahmā consists of the four yugas multiplied a thousand times—or, according to solar calculations, 4,320,000,000 years—and such also is the duration of his night.

CC Madhya 20.305, Translation and Purport:

“If in a kalpa a suitable living entity is not available to take charge of Brahmā’s post, the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself personally expands and becomes Lord Brahmā.

One day of Brahmā consists of the four yugas multiplied a thousand times—or, according to solar calculations, 4,320,000,000 years—and such also is the duration of his night. One year of Brahmā’s life consists of 360 such days and nights, and Brahmā lives for one hundred such years. Such is the life of a Brahmā.

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Teachings of Lord Caitanya

Lord Brahmā only lives for the duration of one breath, and according to our time scale 4,320,000,000 years constitute only twelve hours of Brahmā, and Brahmā lives one hundred of his years.

Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter Intoduction:

Brahmā is born from the navel of Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, who is but a partial manifestation of the Mahā-Viṣṇu. Countless universes reside like seeds within the skin pores of the Mahā-Viṣṇu, and when He exhales, they all are manifest. In the material world we have no experience of such a thing, but we do experience a perverted reflection in the phenomenon of perspiration. We cannot imagine, however, the duration of one breath of the Mahā-Viṣṇu, for within one breath all of the universes are created and annihilated. Lord Brahmā only lives for the duration of one breath, and according to our time scale 4,320,000,000 years constitute only twelve hours of Brahmā, and Brahmā lives one hundred of his years. Yet the whole life of Brahmā is contained within one breath of the Mahā-Viṣṇu. Thus, it is not possible for us to imagine the breathing power of the Supreme Lord. That Mahā-Viṣṇu is but a partial manifestation of Kṛṣṇa.

Lectures

Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures

Brahmā’s one daytime duration, twelve hours ours, is calculated to be forty-three hundred thousands of years multiplied by one thousand.

Lecture on BG 9.3 — Melbourne, April 21, 1976:

Prabhupāda: In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said that even if you go to the topmost planet, there is also birth, death, old age and disease. You cannot avoid this. So long you shall remain within this material world, you have to accept these four principles of material condition, that you’ll have to die. Either you live for ten thousands of years or ten millions of years, it doesn’t matter; you have to die. Even Brahmā dies, who has got many millions of years. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Brahmā’s one day, daytime duration, which is calculated, our twelve hours. There are twelve hours, day, twelve hours, night. That is twenty-four hours. So Brahmā’s one daytime duration, twelve hours ours, is calculated to be forty-three hundred thousands of years multiplied by one thousand. Now calculate what is the… That is forty-three hundred thousands of years.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: 4,000,300,000.

Prabhupāda: Four billion, three hundred years or something like. That is our… As our twelve hours, Brahmā’s twelve hours is that. Then add twelve hours again, four hundred billion. That means altogether eight billions of years. That is one day, Brahmā’s. Then calculate one month. Then calculate one year. Such hundred years he lives. So that is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Sahasra–yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ (BG 8.17). Sahasra-yuga-paryantam. One yuga means forty-three lakhs of, hundred thousands of years. Sahasra means thousand times. That is… Everything is stated there. You can learn. You can understand. So that is called Brahmaloka. And it is also stated, ābrahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ punar āvartino ‘rjuna (BG 8.16). Even if you reach to the Brahmaloka… You can get long duration of life. There is no doubt. But again, punar āvartinaḥ, you have to die and you have to go to another body and another planet.

Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

Now calculate, I have already given the duration of one day, twelve hours, of Brahmā means 4,300,000 years multiplied by one thousand.

Lecture on SB 6.1.3 — Melbourne, May 22, 1975:

Devotee (7): How long do you say it is before Kṛṣṇa comes to this planet again in His physical, in human form?

Prabhupāda: Now calculate, I have already given the duration of one day, twelve hours, of Brahmā means 4,300,000 years multiplied by one thousand. What it comes? 4,300,000 years multiplied by one thousand.

Devotees: Four thousand, three hundred million.

Prabhupāda: No, no.

Paramahaṁsa: Four billion, three hundred million.

Prabhupāda: Oh, difference of opinion. (laughter)

Madhudviṣa: In Australia they calculate different. (laughter)

Prabhupāda: Anyway, what is your Australian calculation? Let me know.

Madhudvīṣa: It’s true. Their billion is something else.

Prabhupāda: Oh. Anyway, I give you the right figure, four million, according to American or English calculation, (laughter) 4,300,000 years and multiply it by one thousand. Then what it comes according to English calculation?

Paramahaṁsa: 4,300,000.

Prabhupāda: That is twelve hours. And add again twelve hours, night. Then eight billion…?

Paramahaṁsa: 600,000,000.

Prabhupāda: So Kṛṣṇa comes after this period. (laughter) In one day, after one day of Brahma, He appears.

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures

This one day, twelve hours, within this twelve hours, there are fourteen Manus. Twelve hours of Brahmā means 4, 3, five zero, eight zero. What is that, 4, 3, eight zeroes? What is the calculation according to your arithmetic, 4, 3, eight zeroes?

Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.318-329 — New York, December 22, 1966:

Prabhupāda: So far other incarnations are concerned, we have somehow counted three or say ten, like that. But here, when we speak of manvantarāvatāra, they are countless.” Asaṅkhya. Asaṅkhya means countless. Nobody can count how many manvantarāvatāras are there. How it is so? He is explaining. Brahmāra eka-dine haya caudda manvantara: “In one day of Brahmā, in one day of Brahmā…” That you have calculated according to Bhagavad-gītā: sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ (BG 8.17). Brahmaṇo, or Brahmā, arhat. Arhat means one day, twelve hours. What is that twelve hours according to our calculation? Sahasra-yuga-paryantam, sahasra, one thousand yugas. And what is the duration of yuga? Four million, three hundred thousands of years, one yuga. Such one thousand, that makes Brahmā’s one day, twelve hours. Similarly, night, twelve hours. Similarly, one month. In this way he has got hundred years’ duration of life.

Now, this one day, twelve hours, within this twelve hours, there are fourteen Manus. Twelve hours of Brahmā means 4, 3, five zero, eight zero. What is that, 4, 3, eight zeroes? What is the calculation according to your arithmetic, 4, 3, eight zeroes? Huh?

Hayagrīva: 4,300,000,000.

Rūpānuga: Four billion three hundred and eight.

Prabhupāda: 4, 3, eight zeroes.

Devotee: 4,300,000,000.

Rūpānuga: Yes. That’s right.

Prabhupāda: Four billion…

Rūpānuga: …three hundred million.

Prabhupāda: 4,300,000,000. That’s all right. Within that 4,300,000,000’s divide into fourteen. That is the duration of one Manu. Four billion, three hundred millions divide into fourteen. That will make… That one part is the duration of a Manu.

So anyway, fourteen Manus are taking place in one day of Brahmā.

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Most beneficial

by Haripada dasa
By the mercy of Srila Prabhupada we understand and accept that there is nothing more beneficial than associating with the pure devotees of God or Krishna, the association with the pure devotees of God or Krishna is more valuable than all the riches of the Universe and more valuable than going To the heavenly planets, a moment of association with the pure devotees of God or Krishna can free you from birth, death, old age and disease and go back home to God or Krishna.
If the association with the pure devotees of God or Krishna is so valuable because people do not associate with them, the answer is that the generality of the people or the heads of families think that their main duty is to give themselves to solve family problems , and that self-realization or enlightenment in spiritual knowledge is a secondary matter, and it is also that such people are very poor of heart that is why they do not associate with the pure devotees of God or Krishna.
I remember a class by Srila Prabhupada who said that people think that the time I am listening to a class of the Bhagavad Gita or the Bhagavatam, that time is better used to be in the office or at work and thus earn money. It is a very practical fact that one’s desires and ambitions develop according to the company one has. If one maintains association with the devotees of God or Krishna, he will surely develop love for God or Krishna.
I share this beautiful verse from the Srimad-Bhagavatam (3-25-25) which says: “Conversations about the pastimes and activities of the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the company of pure devotees are very pleasant and satisfying to the ear and heart. One who cultivates this knowledge gradually advances along the path of liberation until he is liberated and his attraction is fixed. Then true devotion and true devotional service begin. “
Those who think that the great Masters like Srila Prabhupada and other Masters of the disciplic succession die, they reason eternally in their instructions and those who obey them live with them.

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  • Ritvik Srila Prabhupada's Way
  • Srila Prabhupada Takes Us Back To Godhead
  • Śrīla Prabhupāda on “Prabhupāda said.”
  • Keeping the acarya in the center
  • Srila Prabhupada's Authorized System of Initiations
  • Who is that rascal?
  • The Position of Imitation Spiritual Masters
  • Importance of Initiations
  • Srila Prabhupada's System for Initiations part two
  • Srila Prabhupada's System for Initiations Part One
  • How The Parampara Is Lost
  • Inciting Hatred For Ritviks
  • Qualifications of the Bona Fide Guru
  • Srila Prabhupada's Ritvik System is authorized
  • How to Behave With the Acarya
  • GBC Suppressed The Truth
  • Srila Prabhupada on Vapu and Vani
  • Chakra Torpedoes Main GBC Evidence

Festivals/Events

  • Photos from the First Palmdale, CA Ratha-Yatra
  • Seattle Harinama 2009
  • Sri Gaura Purnima Mahotsava-​Sedro Woolley,Wa​. USA 2011
  • Sri Govardhana Puja festival report-Sedro woolley Wa USA

Acaryas-Pure Devotees

  • SRILA PRABHUPADA ON SADHANA BHAKTI

Srila Prabhupada's Srimad Bhagavatam Classes Summary

  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 1
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 2 P:I
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 2 Part II
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 3
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 4 P:I
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 4 P:II
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: I
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: II
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: III
  • Srila Prabhupada's SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 5 P: IV
  • Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: I
  • Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: II
  • Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 6 P: III
  • Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 7 P: I
  • Srila Prabhupada’s SB classes-summary file–VOLUME 7 P: II

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