740702rc.mel Conversations
“Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world.”
Prabhupada: This industry is horrible work. Simply by tilling your ground you get food grains, and keep some cows, you get milk–your economic problem is solved. Why such big, big industries? Ugra-karma. Then? Go on.
Caru:
kamam asritya duspuram dambha-mana-madanvitah mohad grhitvasad-grahan pravartante ‘suci-vratah
“The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent.”
Prabhupada: The big two wars of the world happened only on account of this industry. Do you know that? The cause is the big, big industry. Germany industrial, they produce goods. They must have market. But when they go to sell, there is no market. Britishers will not allow to sell them. The Britisher will take, purchase from them, and stamp it “Made in England” and sell it. And this is the cause of two big war. Therefore German declare twice war. Disaster. Therefore it is said, jagata ahitaya.
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Now on the flip side, if we DONT want Wars—
►750403mw.may Conversations
Prabhupada: Yes. Why don’t you solve? There are so many land. Come
here and grow food. Grow fruit. That is… That is the desire of
Krsna. Annad bhavanti bhutani. Produce food and … ask, “You have to
pay this price.” And you have to pay. And if you grow your own food,
there is no such question. The simple economic problem, solution, this
rascal cannot take…..
“I wish to introduce this ideal now. Then if we are successful this cheating civilization will stop. They have made these cities as hell. If people do not cooperate with them, then how will the factories run on? And, if the people are satisfied by this arrangement, then what will the communists do?”
740314mw.vrn Conversations
Prabhupada: Business means if you have got extra grains or extra
foodstuff, you can sell where there is necessity, there is want. That
is business. We are not going to open mills and factories and… No.
We are not going to do that. That is sudra business. The real business
is that you produce enough food grains, as much as possible, and you
eat and distribute. That’s all. This is business. He does not require
any so high technical education. Anyone can till the ground and grow
food. Is it difficult? This is the business. The first thing is that
everyone, man and animal, especially the cows, they must be properly
fed so become very stout and strong. Cows will supply milk, and man
will work hard, without being suffered by dysentery. He must work
hard. Any capacity. Work as a teacher or work as a ksatriya, work as a
ploughman. Or work as general assistant. He must work. Everyone should
be employed. And his employment will be provided from any of these
groups, according to his capacity. Either as a brahmana, or as a
ksatriya, or as a vaisya, or as a sudra.
750514mw.per Conversations Amogha: He was saying that your solution was too simple. He said that people will not accept it because it is too simple. Prabhupada: That is his ignorance. They will say it is primitive.
That is the only solution. According to the Vedic system, you cannot use anything which you cannot produce. Suppose this we are using, but according the Vedic system we should not use it because I cannot produce it. Then the whole solution is there. Nobody will manufacture this because there will be no customer. If I refuse this use of this machine, thinking that “I cannot produce it; I should not use it,” then where is the customer? The so-called industry will automatically stop, and he has to go to the village outlying.
770618rc.vrn Upendra: The reason the original faith was placed in the scientists was because radio, airplanes, tape recorders have been manufactured, and people are impressed by these originally. Prabhupada: So what is the benefit? Without radio, people were dying, or with radio they are not living? Upendra: They say they are living more comfortably. Prabhupada: Nonsense comfortably… They have changed the season? Is it comfortable? We have to take this cooling machine. What is the practical benefit? You can say that it is comfortable. That’s all right. But that does not mean that you have moved the uncomfortable situation. You are struggling against. That much you can take credit. Real benefit is not there. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. Real unhappiness is this, that you are: “Why I am struggling? I don’t want death.” Actually why I am taking massage and so on, so on? So that I may not die. So where is the scientists’ guarantee, “No, you’ll not die”? Has he any…? You’ll struggle only. That’s all. The scientists cannot guarantee, “No, you’ll not die.” That is real guarantee. “You’ll die comfortably.” Hm? Die comfortably? Now there is no appetite. Where is the scientist, assuring, “Take”? What actual benefit they have done? They are giving some… Nothing
they have given. It is simply bluff. Things without which we could do, such things are there. There were no motorcars. There was horse carriage and bullock carriage. Things were going on. Not that without this horseless motorcar society would have been vanquished. No. There are other alternatives. Rather, they were complicated. As soon as you ride on a car, there is anxiety, especially in your country, so many cars. When you ride on a car, full of anxiety… At any moment there may be accident. It is not comfortable. If you are full of anxiety. Aeroplane may be. At any moment you can die. It is your time only. They’re going in good faith: “I shall go there.” But before rising to the sky, finished, crash. So many airplane has been… So where is the comfort? As soon as you get on the aeroplane, you are in full anxiety that at any moment there may be crash. Is it not? Then where is comfort? Real comfort is without anxiety. That is real comfort.
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